What is the definition of a Near Death Experience?

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mac

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I can see where that would create change. Although it happens to people, seeing an apparition is kind of rare. Maybe he has some kind of psychic abilities, as deceased people are around us quite often, but are seldom seen by people who aren't mediums. I wonder if he had dreams of her as well.

Before it happened I would have said my friend and colleague didn't have an ounce of psychic ability - or even a gram given I worked in science..... I remember the day it happened to him as clearly as anything else so vivid. I'd been out on a job and arrived back to find him excited and overwhelmed. He just came out with it that his late wife had appeared to him in my office and workroom area. It was totally out of the blue, nothing ever to indicate he had any relevant attributes. You know I'm not easily impressed, Lola, so when I tell you what I have just told you it's because it was a BIG deal. It was the start of other things but that's another story and one I've written about here in the past.

He was VERY attached to his wife who tragically died after major surgery. He was devastated by her death and his life became a maelstrom of unfortunate events including a new relationship that was a disaster with his money-grabbing partner trying to empty his home while he was at work with me! It was an unforgettable and traumatic time but it led eventually to the events I've mentioned and a whole bunch of other stuff that is related.

I sometimes look back on all the events - one especially important one I haven't mentioned here but I have detailed elsewhere - and wonder how the hell all that stuff came about and why and who was orchestrating everything. Why him? Why me? Was it all serendipity or were our friends unseen pulling countless strings, puppet-masters unseen and we were dancing to their tune?

Mostly now, though, I just see those times as part of a bizarre tapestry whose shape and form I get just occasional glimpses of. Others might disbelieve what I've said if they knew and/or dismiss it all as fanciful and fantasy. I don't care because none of what happened was relevant to them. They can believe me or not but it just doesn't matter to me. ;):)

As I remarked earlier, none of this had anything to do with NDE but the outcome was similar in many ways.
 

Lola Hoovler

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I think his strong attachment to her was likely the reason he saw her. The phrase "love never dies" may sound a bit corny, but it has been shown to be true in many, many cases. They sense our feelings there if our feelings are intense enough, and he must have been in deep grief. She undoubtedly picked up on that, and I think that is why she appeared to him (to reassure him that she wasn't actually dead)

It sounds like her appearing to him was the beginning of a chain of events. as you said it was the start of other things. What a shame he got into that relationship. What he needed was comfort and someone he could trust, but it appears that it was just the opposite. Who knows how many "friends unseen" are orchestrating events in our lives.
 

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Who knows indeed....? I had always thought she'd be close by him because of their strong love but it wasn't something I'd try to explain to someone with no apparent interest in, or knowledge of, such subjects.

My thinking later - after certain events in which I was involved with my friend - was that our various relationships (I also knew her well) and my growing involvement and understanding of spiritual issues were used to bring about the eventual rescue of the small child, something that happened some weeks later.

On the other hand all the events might just have been fortuitous and serendipitous.
 
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kim

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What were you experiencing Kim? Many NDE's are beautiful - conversations with dead loved ones, beings like angels etc.
I don't have adequate words to explain what I went through, but I am thankful for it now. I wouldn't trade the experience for $1,000,000!
 

Lola Hoovler

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Who knows indeed....?
Once people become aware of the possibility of spirits being involved in our lives, though, it might be easier to pick up on who might be around us. There are very few people who even think that's possible. They are too focused on their daily routines and their computers, iphones, etc. Knowing there are unseen spirits around can explain many coincidences that people often experience.
 

mac

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Once people become aware of the possibility of spirits being involved in our lives, though, it might be easier to pick up on who might be around us. There are very few people who even think that's possible. They are too focused on their daily routines and their computers, iphones, etc. Knowing there are unseen spirits around can explain many coincidences that people often experience.

I think those engaged in getting on with their lives might retort they're not too focused at all..... ;)

It's my experience that individuals become interested in 'the spooks stuff' when it's the right time for them individually and preaching to them about our friends unseen is unlikely to have any appeal until our worldly friends have the need. And that's the time when we may help most effectively. :) It may also be the time they are more likely to pick up on discarnates hoping to make contact with them.
 
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Lola Hoovler

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Of course. I never even mention it to anyone that I know has no interest, as it would be a waste of time. At least more people are open to this than ever before, and I find more and more of them in book stores than when I first started to read "spooky books" at which time there was only one or two in the metaphysical section.
 

kim

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What is the difference of a Near Death Experience and an Out of Body Experience?
 

mac

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What is the difference of a Near Death Experience and an Out of Body Experience?

The former comes about as an outcome of an apparently life-threatening event - an injury like your own for example. The latter may also happen for a similar reason BUT it may also happen for different reasons.
 
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