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What do you consider valid ADC?

Discussion in 'After-Death Communication' started by MarkZerafa, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    In your description of debunkers, Roberta, do even some typical Christians fit into this category? They seem to have unknowingly been blinded by the materialistic reality that our culture is locked into and are denying their "god" to exhibit the full display of wonder he is capable of.
     
  2. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    During the NDE I experienced I learned that growth in Spirit is infinite. This is not definitive, but just my view on things. There are many places in the eternal realm, and we are able to decide if we want to grow or if we just want to remain wherever we may be for a long time or a short time. The difference between this dimension and the eternal dimensions, which are also infinite, is that in this "physical" world all of the vibrations of Divine Consciousness are present here in order to learn and grow from one another. We are all a part of Divine Consciousness here, and It knows how we think, since our thoughts are Its thoughts at a slower speed. Yes the veil was lifted, but everyone has the right to see what he/she wants to see. I mentioned above that growth in the Spirit is infinite, and also that this dimension is a package of all of Divine Conscious vibrations. If growth in the Spirit is infinite and spiritual dimensions are infinite than who knows what can or will become of this "physical" dimension. The veil was lifted to take blinders off and notice that every person is a piece of Divinity.
     
  3. bluebird

    bluebird Major Contributor

    It is real, or at least it is sufficiently real enough to us while we are here experiencing it, and isn't that supposed to be at least part of the point of this life, to experience? That's real enough for me, and the events & experiences that occur to us here cause real joy, real suffering, etc., which is also real to us while we are experiencing those things, and if those experiences didn't impact our souls then there would be no point to them. So I don't buy into the "but none of this is really real" line. It may ultimately be less real, in some way, than the afterlife (if there is an afterlife), but that does not negate its reality, nor its impact or importance.
     
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  4. mac

    mac Staff Member

    I agree. For me it's meaningless to talk about the events in this dimension not being 'real' when there are so many views about what the word 'real' means.

    For me if it feels real it is real. If someone else genuinely feels that life here isn't real then I will completely accept how they find it. But their feeling doesn't invalidate my experience or approach.

    In conclusion I'll repeat what I've said before: "Away from the source of all there is, every dimension, every state of being, is as real or unreal as every other. Only source is 100% real. Everything else is something less."
     
  5. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    I like what you said in this post Mac!:)
     
  6. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Kim, the primary problem I have encountered with traditional Christians is a kind of defensive smugness. They believe the death of Jesus gives them a get-out-of-hell-free card, and that is all they need - they needn't ever do a single thing more in their lives! Don't confuse them with facts. There is no hell anyway; Jesus never said that; this false belief is insulting to God and humiliating to Jesus; etc., etc.: they don't want to hear about it. They refuse to discuss anything that might threaten that GOOHF, and if you don't agree with all their beliefs they feel perfectly free to judge and damn you. It is horrifying! No wonder Jesus is disgusted :-(.
     
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  7. ravensgate

    ravensgate Regular Contributor

    Agree. However, what does "GOOHF" stand for?
     
  8. ravensgate

    ravensgate Regular Contributor

    Wait, think I got it, lol. "Get out of hell free"? ;)
     
  9. ravensgate

    ravensgate Regular Contributor

    For simple me, many/most veridical experiences will do.
     
  10. Nirvana

    Nirvana Regular Contributor

    "She said "I would just love it up here!" only with her specific voice inflection only she can do. I can do a descent enough immitation. I also remember she could change the print and color of her dress by how she was feeling. Sometimes it would be a flower print that was green and yellow. Sometimes blue with flowers. She could also change her hairstyle. This was important to my mom because she would go to a beautician every Friday to get her hair "done". She looked to me like she was between the ages of 20-30 in the dream. She had no gray hair in the dream, it was all black. I never knew her when she was in her 20's and 30's. I was born when she was in her late 30's. She died when she was 80. In the dream she seemed very fit and happy."

    from a comment by a mother's son in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/66tu9x/serious_for_people_who_truly_believe_they_have/
     

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