Signs And Messages 'from The Other Side'

[mac]

Hi JJ, i have read your posts up to this point and i agree with a lot of things you have said, regarding here about the dreamstate, it is not only a place where you can release everything that has been collected subconciously, it is also a portal into the afterlife you are very right, when people sleep at night the spirit body leaves the physical body, when the physical body sleeps the spirit body walks, it is then that we can share precious moments in the astral plane with our loved ones that have passed away.

Over my years 'in the spooks' I expect I will have picked up various ideas that I don't recall hearing in the simple principles surrounding survival and communication, the bedrock of the religion and philosophy that has shaped my approach. The one about astral traveling during sleep is one of them.

Now I do not doubt that some individuals do travel somewhere in their sleep or when they deliberately undertake an Astral journey. What I remain unpersuaded about is that WE ALL do. And such events may be exceptional even for those able to recall them unless every night's sleep and dreams are recorded after awakening and show it to be the case.

When the physical body returns, especially if it is with somebody who doesn't dream,

Has it been proven that some individuals do not dream or is it simply likely that they don't recall having dreamed?

.............they will awake like nothing has happened when actually lots has happened, to people who dream there are several kinds of dreams, release dreams , lucid dreams and visitation dreams, when someone has good dream recall and understand the difference between dreamstates and how you move through the different stages of sleep, some people notice the difference , and in some cases when a person is attuned they can become aware that they have entred a lucid state and then out of the body they go off travelling and sharing experiences, some at will and some spontanously. By becomming more aware of your dreamstate you enhance your ability to stregthen your spiruital communication. It is far easier for your loved ones in spirit to reach you during your sleepstate , as you are at rest and more receptable to them.

Until it can be definitely shown to be the case then (sadly) claims can not be substantiated. I don't doubt that some individuals do experience what's described but extrapolating their experiences to suggest they happen to us all doesn't appeal to my reason.

Some people could always put out the thought before they go to sleep, send out a message to those you love and ask them to draw close to you in your sleep state, don't feel discouraged if this doesnt happen straight away, whats a few words before sleep, this also works for your animals to draw close to you. I hope this helps some of you here struggling. <3 xxx

Of course there is nothing to be lost from sending out loving thoughts asking those we love to draw close to us. But surely our loved ones in spirit must be aware - without it being said - just how much those still in this world would desperately love them to do that?

There is a lot of pain and heartache in this thread, i feel very overwhelmed so far just reading up to here, and you are right BB will be reunited and will get that contact when the timing is right for her.

I, too, sometimes find our members' situations overwhelmingly sad but no-one can guarantee what outcome there will be in this world.

But as Mac said once we move back into the spiritual realm although spirit can be in several places at one time similtanously , they also have other things to do, when they incarnated here to this earthly plane, they left other souls to come live out a life with everyone they touched earthly, so their return is just as important and celebrated when they go back home to spirit. but they will draw near in times of need. <3

lots of love and blessings in abundance . <3 xxx

My understanding about what we'll find after our next return to the etheric does not encompass our being in several 'places' at any one time. I expect to find a straightforward world where there will be freedom to do (or do again) what we weren't able to do in this physical dimension. But I am unable to get my head around our being simultaneously at different points in the etheric dimension. It's one more notion I've heard about but I have no idea where it originated. I'm not aware which spirit guide might have indicated this but I am open to learning who it was.

I do agree, though, that returners to the etheric will be meeting again souls they left when they incarnated this last time. (or the only time if the reader is not comfortable reincarnation is for real) There may be many such individuals the returner will want to meet up with again and although those left behind are not forgotten, ties to kindred spirits are likely to be a strong draw.

I do not expect any soul/spirit would continually remain close to those left behind, so to speak, unless it was the choice of that spirit individual to do so.

 

[Zohar]

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Welcome to ALF, Zohar - glad you made it..... 

 

[Zohar]

Welcome to ALF, Zohar - glad you made it..... 

Thankyou so much for allowing me to join, looks like you've done a great job here. ❤️ xxx

 

[Zohar]

Thank you Zohar, much love to you too! 















I agree with everything you have posted, and that's been my experience as well with the different dream states. There are occasions in which I have become aware that I was dreaming (lucid dreaming) and how vivid everything was, and I am able to fly and create landscapes when I lucid dream. It's a lot of fun, but doesn't happen often. I sometimes get too excited which then causes me to wake up. Then there are dreams that are just like you say, release dreams, and of course I had (and still have) those soon after Joe passed, those can be traumatic.















I agree it's easier for them to reach us during the sleep state, since our rational, logical "waking" mind tamps down when we sleep. Again, I can't "prove" this but it's something I really feel is true.















I made up this place in my mind that sometimes I say to Joe "Meet me in the Inn Between" I picture it like a coffee lodge in the mountains. sometimes I go to sleep trying to imagine that I'm going to meet Joe there. A sort of liminal space between us over here, and our loved ones over there.















Yeah, I have to not be "greedy" (lol) and pester Joe for more. I'm sure he is doing a lot over there and I'm certain I will be with him again. Even after having the visitation, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that some days it's hard to function with the level of grief and missing him. I imagine that's true for anyone who has lost someone.













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Thank you Zohar, much love to you too! 



I agree with everything you have posted, and that's been my experience as well with the different dream states. There are occasions in which I have become aware that I was dreaming (lucid dreaming) and how vivid everything was, and I am able to fly and create landscapes when I lucid dream. It's a lot of fun, but doesn't happen often. I sometimes get too excited which then causes me to wake up. Then there are dreams that are just like you say, release dreams, and of course I had (and still have) those soon after Joe passed, those can be traumatic.



I agree it's easier for them to reach us during the sleep state, since our rational, logical "waking" mind tamps down when we sleep. Again, I can't "prove" this but it's something I really feel is true.



I made up this place in my mind that sometimes I say to Joe "Meet me in the Inn Between" I picture it like a coffee lodge in the mountains. sometimes I go to sleep trying to imagine that I'm going to meet Joe there. A sort of liminal space between us over here, and our loved ones over there.



Yeah, I have to not be "greedy" (lol) and pester Joe for more. I'm sure he is doing a lot over there and I'm certain I will be with him again. Even after having the visitation, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that some days it's hard to function with the level of grief and missing him. I imagine that's true for anyone who has lost someone.



Thank you for your kind words my friend