Signs And Messages 'from The Other Side'
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I do agree that it's best to find guidance that appeals to our reason.
I have had no exposure to any of the Seth material so I have no idea how I would get on with it overall but the piece you have quoted I found awful to read.
Silver Birch's offerings were simple and easy to understand. They required nothing more of people than a preparedness to listen and consider.
When one can describe some material from a discarnate source as dubious then it causes me concern that 'colouration' from a less-authoritative source may have occurred.
I hope it's clear I never suggested the medium made anything up but it's a different issue altogether to say no con artist is that good. The essence of any successful con artist is that they actually are that good! But I did not claim, and I am not for one moment claiming now, that this woman was a con artist.
I read Wikipedia's interesting and informative piece about Jane Roberts (Seth) and her communications with Seth. As I wrote earlier, though, there is no new truth although if we're lucky some additional details might emerge to help our understanding. Over my time 'in the spooks' though I've not heard anything that takes us significantly beyond the fundamental guidance received through mediumship many decades ago.
Communicated work ideally needs no re-phrasing and no interpretation. Forgive me but when interpretation occurs then colouration of the details can be the outcome. That you find them fascinating I totally accept but you are making a broad-brush assumption that Seth's books are worth someone else's time. How on earth could you know that?
Nobody has claimed anything to suggest Seth's words were not honestly recorded but I don't follow why books about psychology and physics are relevant to Seth's communications.
Well I'm glad for you that you like the Seth books but what revelation is in these books that made you say they're worth my time given that you know my own persuasion?
If I have to give time and effort to struggling with (quote) "long and awkward" sentences there needs to be a reward.
No-one is asking you to read the Seth books. The reality is that the afterlife is incredibly complex and there are a growing number of people around the world that want more than the simple view that some prefer that makes them feel comfortable. Jane Roberts and now possibly Gina Lake satisfy a hunger that people have to understand the way the spirit world works. Michael Newton catered for that need as well. The workings of the spirit world are gradually being revealed in more and more detail. To a self-confessed curmudgeon there is nothing more to be revealed other than what he read years ago. This allows him to preach from on high as if he knows it all.
You're absolutely right but earlier I was actually told this "Seth’s books are fascinating and absolutely worth your time." I'd like to know why....
Forgive my brusqueness but aren't you trying to teach granny to suck eggs? I've been 'in the spooks' over three and a half decades and I'm more than aware how"incredibly complex" the whole scene is. I don't feel I can speak for the "growing number of people around the world" are looking for. Apparently you do feel qualified to speak for others. As for looking for more than "something that makes them feel comfortable" you may be right but I would contend that many others will be seeking just to understand why we survive death and don't simply disappear forever. I hope those in the former category find what they're seeking but I'm sure those in the latter category stand a better chance in their quest.
This curmudgeon will always find weaknesses in unsubstantiated assertions - if you make 'em then I'll point 'em out! I do take exception, though, to your asserting I preach on high or pretend I know it all. Had you properly read what I've written time after time you would know that I say I know only than what's been taught by teachers and guides widely acknowledged as authoritative and spiritually advanced. And I accept only what appeals to my reason.
I don't doubt individuals have a hunger to understand the way the spirit world works - been there, done that, collected Tee shirts aplenty in my thirty odd years of seeking. So there's nothing new in what others are doing. YOU are asserting "The workings of the spirit world are gradually being revealed in more and more detail." and I'm just gonna say that's a crock. You tell me what's been revealed of late, something that wasn't known from previous teachings and I mean what substantiated points - not just ideas or notions. Show me those and I'll be happy to acknowledge I'm wrong.
I acknowledge the difficulty you may be experiencing because English is not your first language.
Whether that's your problem with Seth's books, or whether it's because his language and delivery is the you described it - long and awkward - I don't know. But as I wrote earlier, the piece you quoted I found awful to read and English is my language.
I totally accept the reward for you is that the books are changing the way you view the world but but you gave the impression Seth's books are worth my time. I doubt that's the case but unless I read them all - something I don't intend doing - it will have to remain my supposition.
Jenn at thesearchforlifeafterdeath.com has written quite a piece on a "technological message from the "Other Side"! Not sure what to make of it as it sounds chilling to me. We are all a mixture of good and bad. None of us are angels in heaven. We are solid creatures here on earth and sometimes can't help responding to our circumstances or those around us in human terms, not sweetness and light! Do read this; so interesting. Not sure what to think of trying to enlist the help of a specific angel. Surely these named beings are fictional? However, don't be put off reading the post.
Our telephone became difficult to use a month or two after the apparition experience I had in early 2018. Static noise on the line made it impossible to hear calls for a week or two, or even to get a dialling tone: all was static. My husband said just recently when I asked him about it that it was fixed by a telephone engineer but at the time he said the engineer was here for a different reason to do with the computer. A friend last week said husbands "do that" and I agree!!!
Anyway, in February last year I was at a conference on "spooky stuff" when a researcher put up a slide about grades of telephonic spooky action. Number one, or "entry level" was static on the line!
Our telephone became difficult to use a month or two after the apparition experience I had in early 2018. Static noise on the line made it impossible to hear calls for a week or two, or even to get a dialling tone: all was static. My husband said just recently when I asked him about it that it was fixed by a telephone engineer but at the time he said the engineer was here for a different reason to do with the computer. A friend last week said husbands "do that" and I agree!!!
Anyway, in February last year I was at a conference on "spooky stuff" when a researcher put up a slide about grades of telephonic spooky action. Number one, or "entry level" was static on the line!