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mac

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Here's a section of a thread posted elsewhere some time ago.


"In a simplistic terms a dowser believes that there is a field of energy all around the world that interpenetrates everything (just as Mesmer with Animal Magnetisem, Von Reichenbach with the odic force, Crookes & Cox's Psychic force, Newton's Ether etc etc). Because we are all, at our essence energy, this universal energy field interpenetrates us as wel. Then if we can ignore our conscious brainl and open our subconscious to receive information then we will.

Clearly where we have a conscious investment in the outcome this is likely to interfere with the information received. This energy exchange is also the way in which psychic work occurs. Except in this case we are using this energy field to access the other person's energy field, in which all of their life history, hopes, dreams, aspirations and worries are stored.

Now even sceptical Australian farmers use dowsers ..water diviners and believe in it. Add to that that many dowsers, like Uri Geller and Rev Anne Gehman (who is a very fine psychic and medium too) have made considerable royalty money from mineral companies for the finds they made.

The exercise I do, with a long drop pendulum is a good party piece. I ask people to focus upon putting one of the colours of the rainbow into the glass of water they are holding. I then work round and find the colour involved by adjusting the length of the string. The pendulum only responds to the colour vibration when it is the right length. I have my pendulum duly calibrated and when it responds I tell them the colour they used. It proves two things, firstly we can use our palms to pass energy on (the basis of magnetic healing although doing this rather than spiritual healing will deplete your own energy), secondly there is an energetic connection between my subconscious and the item which allows the access of the required information.

Once again I hasten to say that there are some basic rules and ethics involved in dowsing. These are common to any work in the psychic or mediumistic area.

Jim"

Below is a link to another pendulum piece by Jim Warwood.

Dowsing and your intuitive potential
 
Interesting stuff Mac. This quote “He thought dowsing allowed us to receive the information by connecting our personal unconscious with the collective unconscious” sums it up for me. However, I don’t think I have the intuition required (yet) to tap into this. The pendulum will swing with no help from me to give me concrete answers that I consciously already know but ask it to tell me the name of my grandma’s sister’s budgie and it doesn’t have a clue because ‘I’ don’t have a clue. Funnily enough, it will often still give me a name, just not the correct one. You would think perhaps it would just remain still or give me gobbledygook.

I haven’t tried using varying lengths of string to gauge vibrations. Certainly something I could try.

What has your experience been with the pendulum Mac? Have you had success? Do you have concerns about using it the way I have tried to? As I said in my response to Carol, the last time I used it, I felt very suddenly and completely drained of all energy. It was quite frightening as I couldn’t help but feel a positive ‘being’ wouldn’t use my energy in that way.
 

mac

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Interesting stuff Mac. This quote “He thought dowsing allowed us to receive the information by connecting our personal unconscious with the collective unconscious” sums it up for me. However, I don’t think I have the intuition required (yet) to tap into this. The pendulum will swing with no help from me to give me concrete answers that I consciously already know but ask it to tell me the name of my grandma’s sister’s budgie and it doesn’t have a clue because ‘I’ don’t have a clue. Funnily enough, it will often still give me a name, just not the correct one. You would think perhaps it would just remain still or give me gobbledygook.

I haven’t tried using varying lengths of string to gauge vibrations. Certainly something I could try.

What has your experience been with the pendulum Mac? Have you had success? Do you have concerns about using it the way I have tried to? As I said in my response to Carol, the last time I used it, I felt very suddenly and completely drained of all energy. It was quite frightening as I couldn’t help but feel a positive ‘being’ wouldn’t use my energy in that way.

My experience largely matched your own - I did some testing last winter but reached no positive outcome. I concluded it didn't work for me.

I don't have concerns for your trying it on yourself and you are already being cautious. :) That's what I would have suggested but I don't need to! :)

I'm not comfortable that you felt drained of energy though and agree with your conclusion that no positive contact would leave you feeling that way. I don't know if your efforts were achieving trans-dimensional communication but if they were then my usual caution would apply - be careful who you're communicating with and if you can't be sure about your contact's identity then don't continue.
 

mac

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Hi Mac,
I always use the pendulum when I am on this forum. For some of my personal needs, it is telepathic only. But I use the pendulum frequently for confirmation on what I hear. I think I always will. I literally hear him as the pendulum moves to the answer however. Mikey really doesn't care if I use it or not. Seeing is still believing for me. I love to watch how precise it moves.
With the video, I tried so hard to hold everything as still as I could. (I never use 2 hands normally).I didn't want folks to think I was moving it. All good. :)
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
thanks, Carol :)

I remember you used to use the pendulum for certainty about what you received for passing on. Interesting you both hear Mikey and also see the pendulum working. It's nice your personal communication with Mikey doesn't use both.

In your video I had seen how hard you tried to hold your hand to prevent any movement - I still enjoy watching it - it's quite some time since you made it. How the years pass, eh?
 

mac

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Hi Thomas,
I am so so sorry to hear of the passing of your daughter. It is one tough journey for us who have experienced this. I know every situation is different, but I truly understand the pain. It is brutal no doubt.
I'm happy to hear that you have made a connection with your daughter. Regarding the pendulum, that connection is between the two of you. :) Mikey is not involved. Hearing her clearly in your head can develop over time. With me, I practiced daily over years to get where I am today with Mikey. It is a connection with the two of us. Mikey tells me he cannot make it so you can hear your daughter. That has to develop between the two of you. When I work with the pendulum , I am very careful to be sure that I am protected and communicating only with my son. :)
Sending love, peace and strength to you and your family Thomas. It is a journey like no other....
Carol, and Mikey "in Spirit" too.

Might I suggest Thomas should watch your video (if he hasn't already) and then make or buy an alphabet half-circle and try with a pendulum himself, just to see if anything happens?
 

mac

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Mac,
My understanding is that he already is using the pendulum with success, but maybe I misunderstood? I can give him the info on where do get a disc if he would like. (Thinking the gal who does this still has them.) Hopefully he will check back and read this.
Carol
I don't think he is in contact that way, Carol, and he hasn't been around ALF since last Saturday.
 

mac

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Thank you for responding to me question. I was not having any luck whatsoever contacting my daughter with a pendulum before I issued my question. Now, it seems that I have some type of contact with her because she has begun to make the pendulum swing. I made my own half circle alphabet with numbers and yes I found your video which is very helpful. Hopefully, with some practice I can learn to communicate with her. Again, thank you so very much for taking the time to help me.
Best regards,
Thomas & Gracie
Guess I had it wrong....... sorry.

But I couldn't see where you told us you'd already tried using a pendulum. o_O
 

Auras

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My experience largely matched your own - I did some testing last winter but reached no positive outcome. I concluded it didn't work for me.

I've read online that proper communication takes a while to kick in. Also that there needs to be some sort of rules / guidelines set in order for you and the spirit to understand properly. I'm not sure how true this is, but it seems very likely. How long were you practising with the pendulum, Mac?

I've recently picked one up, hoping to try it out sometime this week.:)
 

mac

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I've read online that proper communication takes a while to kick in. Also that there needs to be some sort of rules / guidelines set in order for you and the spirit to understand properly. I'm not sure how true this is, but it seems very likely. How long were you practising with the pendulum, Mac?

I've recently picked one up, hoping to try it out sometime this week.:)

Oh it was only for a few weeks, on and off, not really practising more just experimenting to see if there were anything I could work with. I think I approached it with an open mind but who knows how open it really was?

I'm not persuaded that pendulum work means there is necessarily a spirit contact answering. I found interesting Jim Warwood's piece higher up this thread. Jim is a Spiritualist medium incidentally.
 

Auras

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Oh it was only for a few weeks, on and off, not really practising more just experimenting to see if there were anything I could work with. I think I approached it with an open mind but who knows how open it really was?

I'm not persuaded that pendulum work means there is necessarily a spirit contact answering. I found interesting Jim Warwood's piece higher up this thread. Jim is a Spiritualist medium incidentally.

I was enjoying the post by Jim. However, when I came across this I was left a little confused.

When I teach dowsing, spoon bending or psychometry, I do not link this with spirit in any way.

Spoon bending is what caught my eye here, I thought spoon bending was simply stage magic, illusions, etc.. or maybe I've got it wrong.

Do you plan on experimenting more with the Pendulum, Mac? :)
 

mac

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I was enjoying the post by Jim. However, when I came across this I was left a little confused.
Spoon bending is what caught my eye here, I thought spoon bending was simply stage magic, illusions, etc.. or maybe I've got it wrong.

It CAN be all or any of that entertainment just as apparent mediumship can be staged. But not all of either is staged or fake.

Do you plan on experimenting more with the Pendulum, Mac? :)

No I've had my fussy out. There would need to be a serious reason to try again. I'm not into psychic energy stuff - I quickly get bored.
 
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