Part 3 - 2020 thru. 2021
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Mikey I'm interested in what you've said in your recent reply (posting #1195) to a member's earlier question.
When you say many souls have been here before - with few or fewer 'first-timers' (as I refer to them) around now - will you please expand on what you know about that situation and how you know?
question 1. Are you talking in terms of a teeny-tiny fraction of 1% (for example) of all incarnating souls effectively meaning there are hardly any newcomers to this dimension? Or is it a much larger percentage such as 10% for example?
question 2. Whatever the actual/estimated percentage, from what source do these figures come? For example is it common knowledge in your sphere of existence or is it because you've looked into the situation specially?
question 3. Will there be a point that there are no 'newcomers' here or at least a vanishingly tiny number who come for special reasons?
question 4. If the answer to question 3. is 'yes' one consequence appears to be that our global population will begin to diminish - or just stabilise at the current unprecedentedly high number for an indefinable time - as souls progress spiritually and eventually stop reincarnating in this dimension. Is that a valid conclusion?
question 5. If the answers to questions 3 and 4 above are both 'yes' might that be a reason we presently have so high a global population? Souls determined to make the most of the last opportunities for spiritual progression we've often agreed are afforded by living in this physical realm?
question 6. If the answers to previous questions are 'yes', is it because it was the intended outcome or because it's just the way things have panned out?
question 7. Would you please add whatever you can to enlarge on any of the subjects raised in this posting?
thank you! mac
ConfusedOne
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Hi Carol and Mikey,
Thank you for your replies!
Sorry I didn't write too well, the Chaldean soul is the soul from 7th/Celestial Plane.
Thank you!
ConfusedOne
Carol and Mikey
Golden Hearts
Hi Kurt,
Mikey tells me no, he is never bored. Plenty of things to do and places to go!
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
Carol and Mikey
Golden Hearts
Hi Mac,
Before question one: Mikey tells me he is in-tuned to this as it relates to his teaching through the veil.
Question #1: Mikey tells me roughly 1% are "new" to this dimension.
Question #2: Mikey tells me the info is from The Source. Then he tells me "I'm a teacher".
Question #3: Mikey tells me yes, this is possible.
Question #4: Mikey tells me the population will continue to fluctuate as souls come and go from this dimension. Understand there are many souls (beyond what we can probably comprehend) that vary on when they return. This makes it difficult to truly determine what will happen with the population here. Also, souls are at different stages of spiritual growth according to Mikey. Some souls may come here and hardly progress at all, while others can make good progress in spiritual growth. Some souls actually go backwards! So there are many factors that can come into play from Mikey's viewpoint.
Question #5: Mikey tells me it is not the last opportunity. There is plenty "of time" left!
Earth isn't going anywhere at this point according to Mikey. Question #6: This is an interesting and challenging dimension from Mikey's perspective. That adds to the desire to come here along with the potential for spiritual growth.
Question #7: Mikey tells me we shouldn't worry about the earth's population . He knows it won't "over flow" here!
A little spiritual humor there......Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
thanks, guys - lots of interesting points for me to consider there.Hi Mac,
Before question one: Mikey tells me he is in-tuned to this as it relates to his teaching through the veil.
Question #1: Mikey tells me roughly 1% are "new" to this dimension.
Question #2: Mikey tells me the info is from The Source. Then he tells me "I'm a teacher".
Question #3: Mikey tells me yes, this is possible.
Question #4: Mikey tells me the population will continue to fluctuate as souls come and go from this dimension. Understand there are many souls (beyond what we can probably comprehend) that vary on when they return. This makes it difficult to truly determine what will happen with the population here. Also, souls are at different stages of spiritual growth according to Mikey. Some souls may come here and hardly progress at all, while others can make good progress in spiritual growth. Some souls actually go backwards! So there are many factors that can come into play from Mikey's viewpoint.
Question #5: Mikey tells me it is not the last opportunity. There is plenty "of time" left!
Question #6: This is an interesting and challenging dimension from Mikey's perspective. That adds to the desire to come here along with the potential for spiritual growth.
Question #7: Mikey tells me we shouldn't worry about the earth's population . He knows it won't "over flow" here!
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
questions about memory
Recently we've been discussing elsewhere why or if 'code words' or number sequences have been communicated back to this earth dimension to identify specific individuals who have passed over - for examples former mediums or researchers into spiritual/afterlife matters. It led on to considering the nature of human memory compared with our spiritual one - if there is a difference. When we're in our physical bodies our daily lives are filled with memory producing events along with a whole bunch of unimportant, often trivial details that may or may not stick in our memories. Memory is a mix of very important stuff that we don't need to work at remembering and a whole bunch of other stuff we may have to work at holding on to. Some of the latter will eventually stick, some may never stick no matter how hard we try.
So our memories get formed one way or another but at least some of them are stored in our biological memory system and some disappear after injury, illness and all of them on our deaths.
My first question is how much of our incarnate memory is also to be found in our spiritual one - all of it or just some of it?
question 2. Are trivial details recorded in our 'spiritual memory' or is it just important details and relationships etc.?
question 3. Is spiritual memory something that improves as we progress spiritually so we carry over more of our biological memories into our spirit selves?
question 4. If none of the above applies, will you explain the differences between our 'earth memory' system and whatever constitutes our 'spiritual memory'?
Recently we've been discussing elsewhere why or if 'code words' or number sequences have been communicated back to this earth dimension to identify specific individuals who have passed over - for examples former mediums or researchers into spiritual/afterlife matters. It led on to considering the nature of human memory compared with our spiritual one - if there is a difference. When we're in our physical bodies our daily lives are filled with memory producing events along with a whole bunch of unimportant, often trivial details that may or may not stick in our memories. Memory is a mix of very important stuff that we don't need to work at remembering and a whole bunch of other stuff we may have to work at holding on to. Some of the latter will eventually stick, some may never stick no matter how hard we try.
So our memories get formed one way or another but at least some of them are stored in our biological memory system and some disappear after injury, illness and all of them on our deaths.
My first question is how much of our incarnate memory is also to be found in our spiritual one - all of it or just some of it?
question 2. Are trivial details recorded in our 'spiritual memory' or is it just important details and relationships etc.?
question 3. Is spiritual memory something that improves as we progress spiritually so we carry over more of our biological memories into our spirit selves?
question 4. If none of the above applies, will you explain the differences between our 'earth memory' system and whatever constitutes our 'spiritual memory'?
I'm guessing Mikey might have anticipated I'd be back to go over this point (highlighted text) with him again.
Mikey, unless I've misunderstood or not remembered accurately, I was under the impression - one gained probably from Silver Birch's guidance - that our spiritual development never regresses. Put differently, once we've reached a particular level of spiritual progression we don't go 'backward' although we may not actually go forward for a period.
I like analogies although the following one may not be that good. Could we view spiritual progress as similar to - say - learning to read? Once we have learned to read proficiently we don't lose that ability unless we suffer injury or sickness that damages our brains. We don't usually lose that ability and go backward even if our behavior deteriorates markedly.
As I see things, once we have reached a certain level of spiritual progress we don't lose the progress we had made even if our behavior were to change markedly for the worse. Mikey am I wrong and if so why?
Tim Salyer
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Hi Carol and Mikey,
Along with Mac's questions, I was thinking about spiritual progress and how we view progress on this earth. Occasionally I run into someone who is most likely homeless, and while I am getting so much better at not judging outright, I often wonder what life situations brought them to live in this manner. I am guilty of thinking that perhaps they made bad decisions that brought them to this place (assuming no one chooses to be homeless) and they may not be highly advanced spiritually. Perhaps it was just bad luck. My question is (and I think I may already know the answer) can someone be spiritually advanced and end up in such a desperate condition, especially in a location like the United States?
Have a Great Day,
Tim
Along with Mac's questions, I was thinking about spiritual progress and how we view progress on this earth. Occasionally I run into someone who is most likely homeless, and while I am getting so much better at not judging outright, I often wonder what life situations brought them to live in this manner. I am guilty of thinking that perhaps they made bad decisions that brought them to this place (assuming no one chooses to be homeless) and they may not be highly advanced spiritually. Perhaps it was just bad luck. My question is (and I think I may already know the answer) can someone be spiritually advanced and end up in such a desperate condition, especially in a location like the United States?
Have a Great Day,
Tim
The pace of change in this modern world can be breathtaking at times. Over 15 years ago when my wife and I began RVing this wonderful land, the USA, we had to hunt to find any news about our homeland. I thought I'd done well to find news items on the BBC website after we'd managed to find a campground with sufficiently robust WiFi to get connected. Nowadays I listen live via the web to the same news bulletins on the BBC that I listen to when I'm back home in summer. And for the past several days I've been listening to 15 minute programmes that tell the stories of 'green pioneers', individuals who began campaigning about ecological issues many years ago.
The broadcast about Chico Mendes, (chico mendes death - Google Search) and his eventual murder, was one that got me wondering - are these guys literally 'inspired by spirit' to campaign the way they have to try to save our world from an unpromising future? Are the actions of such campaigners literally spiritually-inspired? Examples of the way our friends unseen can intervene in our physical dimension?
So, Mikey, question 1 is asking whether individuals such as Mendes and schoolgirl Thunberg are being guided/inspired/encouraged/motivated because they already had a passion about those so-called green issues?
Question 2 is did they (or others similarly motivated) incarnate with that passion, as individuals with a 'mission' to get us ordinary folk motivated and moved to support calls for change?
If the answer to question 2 is 'no' then Question 3 must be to ask if they were inspired by our friends in spirit to campaign the way they have?
Question 4 is to ask, Mikey, whether many individuals incarnate with missions to help us in our world and if so whether it's been the way that those 'overseeing' events in our world have always intervened in such ways and without our awareness?
The broadcast about Chico Mendes, (chico mendes death - Google Search) and his eventual murder, was one that got me wondering - are these guys literally 'inspired by spirit' to campaign the way they have to try to save our world from an unpromising future? Are the actions of such campaigners literally spiritually-inspired? Examples of the way our friends unseen can intervene in our physical dimension?
So, Mikey, question 1 is asking whether individuals such as Mendes and schoolgirl Thunberg are being guided/inspired/encouraged/motivated because they already had a passion about those so-called green issues?
Question 2 is did they (or others similarly motivated) incarnate with that passion, as individuals with a 'mission' to get us ordinary folk motivated and moved to support calls for change?
If the answer to question 2 is 'no' then Question 3 must be to ask if they were inspired by our friends in spirit to campaign the way they have?
Question 4 is to ask, Mikey, whether many individuals incarnate with missions to help us in our world and if so whether it's been the way that those 'overseeing' events in our world have always intervened in such ways and without our awareness?
Carol and Mikey
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Hi Mac and all,
I'm really sorry but I am leaving town for 9 days and don't have time to address these questions at the moment. Just briefly, In the one post, Mikey was talking about details of remembering where certain things are located here (for example) tend to fade. Certain things that have more of a significance with the soul are remembered. (This correlates with that previous post. ) This is not with everything according to Mikey. We do remember relationship interactions, etc. More on this later.
Regarding regression, Mikey does say that we can affect our spiritual growth if we come here and are very negative in our ways. It's not all smooth sailing if we have reached a higher level of vibration....It does not give us permission to then be hurtful or negative without any affect on us. More on this also when I return Feb, 4th.
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
I'm really sorry but I am leaving town for 9 days and don't have time to address these questions at the moment. Just briefly, In the one post, Mikey was talking about details of remembering where certain things are located here (for example) tend to fade. Certain things that have more of a significance with the soul are remembered. (This correlates with that previous post. ) This is not with everything according to Mikey. We do remember relationship interactions, etc. More on this later.
Regarding regression, Mikey does say that we can affect our spiritual growth if we come here and are very negative in our ways. It's not all smooth sailing if we have reached a higher level of vibration....It does not give us permission to then be hurtful or negative without any affect on us. More on this also when I return Feb, 4th.
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
genewardsmith
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When Edgar Cayce did readings, he would sometimes say someone lost more than they gained in a particular life. But I take your point--learning is learning, how can it vanish, instead of just becoming hidden? It would be interesting to hear from Mikey if what we have learned can be drained from us if we abuse it and it goes bad.
When you get home I'm hoping Mikey will considerably enlarge on these issues, Carol.
Memories and memory are key to our incarnate indentity; the loss of them is so tragically obvious when dementia blights our lives. Without the ability to recall and link to our memories we are adrift in a world we can't properly understand maybe with people who we no longer recognise as our family and friends - that's not likely to be something we'll encounter in the etheric dimensions but the reason I asked what I did is because I have wondered exactly what from earth life we'll recall and what we won't.
That's not what I was questioning, though. I appreciate that further spiritual growth may be hindered by our becoming negative in a particular incarnation, negative in approach and behavior but surely, Mikey, that's not the equivalent to regressing, to going backward? Or perhaps that's what you're saying is the case?
We could use the oft-chosen example of Adolf Hitler; would the level of spiritual progress his soul had made before it incarnated as that much-reviled man then be lost after he did what he did? Would he regress and have to make up lost ground?
Or would he instead have to attone for what he did (presumably a huge undertaking) before he could begin to move forward from the point of spiritual progress he used to be at?
Or do things not work that way?
I suppose before we go further it would be helpful if we tried to pin down what 'spiritual progress' means in reality and in practice?I'm looking forward to hearing what Mikey has to say on this aspect.
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Mikey would you look at the following postings (copied from elsewhere) and let us know your thoughts, please?
Perhaps what's missing is clear guidance about what 'spiritual progress' actually means?
point 1. I view the issues as follows: Each of us is a tiny 'spark' of the divine - a spark of God or of the great spirit or whatever word you use to mean the creator force that is the source of everything that is. Those tiny sparks are us. We are of the source, from the source and identically similar to the source. Our essence, then, is already spiritually perfect and mature just like the source.
point 2. The significant difference is that in the various dimensions, from the many lives we have, we experience as individuated spirit. The sum total of what we gain from all we experience/learn is carried along with us - not only as individuals but also shared with our soul group members - eventually back to source. This is somehow essential to source - please don't ask me why! I just accept that it is.
point 3. The upshot, then, of all the above - as I understand the situation - is that our individual spiritual progress is marked by our accumulation of learning from all the experiences we have. It's not down to our memorising what we learn because memory is just a small part of the experience/learning. As I understand things, what we carry back is 'loaded into' the psyches of each and every one of us tiny sparks of the divine and once there is there forever.
Maybe I'm right(ish) and maybe I'm wrong but until someone comes along with a more persuasive version mine is the one that works for me.
Perhaps what's missing is clear guidance about what 'spiritual progress' actually means?
point 1. I view the issues as follows: Each of us is a tiny 'spark' of the divine - a spark of God or of the great spirit or whatever word you use to mean the creator force that is the source of everything that is. Those tiny sparks are us. We are of the source, from the source and identically similar to the source. Our essence, then, is already spiritually perfect and mature just like the source.
point 2. The significant difference is that in the various dimensions, from the many lives we have, we experience as individuated spirit. The sum total of what we gain from all we experience/learn is carried along with us - not only as individuals but also shared with our soul group members - eventually back to source. This is somehow essential to source - please don't ask me why! I just accept that it is.
point 3. The upshot, then, of all the above - as I understand the situation - is that our individual spiritual progress is marked by our accumulation of learning from all the experiences we have. It's not down to our memorising what we learn because memory is just a small part of the experience/learning. As I understand things, what we carry back is 'loaded into' the psyches of each and every one of us tiny sparks of the divine and once there is there forever.
Maybe I'm right(ish) and maybe I'm wrong but until someone comes along with a more persuasive version mine is the one that works for me.
Hi Carol & Mikey,
1. Is earth the most dense dimension with the lowest vibration where spirits exist?
If it is not, where else?
2. If past, current & future all happen at the same time and the linear time only exists on earth, then is our next reincarnation already planned out before we pass over?
1. Is earth the most dense dimension with the lowest vibration where spirits exist?
If it is not, where else?
2. If past, current & future all happen at the same time and the linear time only exists on earth, then is our next reincarnation already planned out before we pass over?
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Another issue occurred to me in connection with our thought/mind being able to create objects, things.
Here in our physical world we accumulate 'things' - personal possessions of course but also in this wealthy western world a superfluity of junk/crap that has to be stored in lock-up units because we have insufficient storage room at home! What's up with that!! We may have stuff and even pets and animals that we see as defining who we are, our social status etc.
But what of the world 'over there'? What do we 'own' if we own anything at all? Well pets and animals are out of the picture - we won't 'own' them even if they love us enough to remain around for a time. Presumably we won't own things unless we create them by the power of our thought or someone else does. Why would we? For what purpose? Perhaps musicians have musical instruments but again, why? The sounds musical instruments make in our world are made differently 'over there' as there's no air/atmosphere to convey sound. Do musical instruments even exist?
So, Mikey, would you please tell us if individuals 'over-there' have belongings of any sort and if so, what they are?
Here in our physical world we accumulate 'things' - personal possessions of course but also in this wealthy western world a superfluity of junk/crap that has to be stored in lock-up units because we have insufficient storage room at home!
What's up with that!! We may have stuff and even pets and animals that we see as defining who we are, our social status etc. But what of the world 'over there'? What do we 'own' if we own anything at all? Well pets and animals are out of the picture - we won't 'own' them even if they love us enough to remain around for a time.
Presumably we won't own things unless we create them by the power of our thought or someone else does. Why would we? For what purpose? Perhaps musicians have musical instruments but again, why? The sounds musical instruments make in our world are made differently 'over there' as there's no air/atmosphere to convey sound. Do musical instruments even exist?So, Mikey, would you please tell us if individuals 'over-there' have belongings of any sort and if so, what they are?
jobun
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Hi Carol & Mikey, Carol I hope your time off was restful and pleasant for you.
I was thinking yesterday as I was driving home from work... I think mac may have prompted me to think this based upon the questions he asked in an earlier post...
Going back to the first humans recorded on earth... those would be the cavemen, correct?
1.Were they considered new souls?
and if so,
2. are most of them or all of them now advanced beings?
3.with all of the thousands of years in between their life and now, would any of them have come back now for further lessons or to teach others?
I was thinking yesterday as I was driving home from work... I think mac may have prompted me to think this based upon the questions he asked in an earlier post...
Going back to the first humans recorded on earth... those would be the cavemen, correct?
1.Were they considered new souls?
and if so,
2. are most of them or all of them now advanced beings?
3.with all of the thousands of years in between their life and now, would any of them have come back now for further lessons or to teach others?
great questions! I've also often reflected over such situations.
"......with all of the thousands of years in between their life and now, would any of them have come back now for further lessons or to teach others?"
Or are they likely, Mikey, to have long completed all the stages of lives as 'individual spirits' and have re-merged with source? In other words how many years / thousands of earth years equivalent does it take for each of us to complete a typical individual odyssey? (if there is any such thing)
I've also often reflected over such situations."......with all of the thousands of years in between their life and now, would any of them have come back now for further lessons or to teach others?"
Or are they likely, Mikey, to have long completed all the stages of lives as 'individual spirits' and have re-merged with source? In other words how many years / thousands of earth years equivalent does it take for each of us to complete a typical individual odyssey? (if there is any such thing)
Lola Hoovler
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For Carol and Mikey: I wondered if Mikey could answer a question for me. Is it possible to effectively pray for deceased souls even if you never met them or had any connection with them in the physical world? In other words, those who might be considered by us as "confused" or "lost" souls? If so, how could this be most effectively accomplished? Conventional prayers derived from various religions seem superficial and not from the heart. What would he say is the best way to accomplish this, if this is indeed possible? I feel that if we are all "one", then praying for someone outside your circle of family and friends shouldn't be impossible, but wondered what Mikey might think. If anyone else on this forum knows anything about this, I would appreciate their input.
genewardsmith
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For Mikey: I've read that communication with the material plane is more difficult for those on a higher vibration or plane. Is this true? If so, is it because of your relationship with your mother that you are able to accomplish it, or do you have helpers over there who allow your communications to be stepped down?
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