It's always an interesting discussion with you, bb..... You're not persuaded either way about issues that are real for me yet can judge the validity or otherwise of an obscure argument. Some time ago I had an online friend who was amazingly knowledgeable about Modern Spiritualism and able to quote details and speak about individuals linked to it. Yet he hadn't found what he was searching for - that certain something to persuade him fully about survival et al, the stuff he knew and, I think was all-but persuaded, about. I've not heard from him in a fair while and sometimes wonder if he ever did find what he was seeking. I suspect he didn't but who knows?