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bluebird

Major Contributor
Dead forums
It's true that the forums have been rather slow lately -- but what was the point of your comment? If you want to see the forums pick up, making a substantive comment on a thread, or perhaps starting your own thread on an afterlife-related subject, would be a much better way to accomplish that goal.
 

mac

Administrator
It's so often the case, I've found, that grumblers who remark that nothing is happening are not themselves interested
in making a contribution.... ;) Maybe they prefer others to do the work?
 

bluebird

Major Contributor
Likely true, mac.

Nothing wrong with raising the subject, it's just a matter of how it's done. Even a post to the effect of "I've noticed the forums here have been really slow lately -- anyone know why that's happening? Are there any subjects anyone would be interested in discussing?" would be fine, as at least that would be constructive, and a contribution of a sort.
 

mac

Administrator
Hi Carol and Mikey! Has Mikey ever met Mr. Erik Medhus from channelingerik.com? If so, what afterlife levels is Mr. Erik at? If he's somewhat below Mikey's level then why won't you and Carol also do interviews with those deceased (discarnated) celebrities or any famous persons (incarnares) as well?
I'm going to step in again here. Please read what's been asked before about contacting or knowing other spirits in the so-called afterlife.

Mikey has often explained he is unlikely ever to encounter random individuals who members ask about. If he didn't know them before he won't know them now. It's not like living in a tiny, specialist community where you might bump into someone you've heard about and happens to be living down the street from you.

In the afterlife the connection of love is vastly more important than it is here in terms of meeting people. Love attracts one to another. Here we have a physical location, an address in a neighborhood, a phone number, an email address. We can look someone up even if we've never known them. The world of the spirit is nothing like that.

Absolutely NONE of the contact mechanisms is a feature of life discarnate. Unless we have a pre-existing connection with another individual - be that one from living in this world or a previous spiritual connection - there's little likelihood one spirit will ever meet another or even know about her/him.

Know also that whoever individuals were in this world they are not known in the same way in the next. Oh, sure, we hear about Elvis still entertaining etc. but 'star-personality' the way we have it here does not exist after we have passed over. There is no Las Vegas with shows in casinos for celebrities to continue performing their acts, no TV to promote themselves and/or to be interviewed on. There is no mechanism in this world for interviewing former celebrities now passed over. Life in the world beyond isn't like that......
 

mac

Administrator
Carol and Mikey thank you for your answers! Carol I appreciate your personal thoughts about grieving. I have been working very hard to raise my vibration and not be in sadness all the time. I know that is what my Zak wants for me. I know he works hard at helping me too. I have had some amazing signs and messages lately. Also, I am taking a workshop at Monroe Institute for Out of Body Travel. I am wondering if Mikey has any thoughts on developing this skill and once I can travel to the astral realm will it be difficult to find Zak in all the millions of universes? Thank you!
It's hard to shake off the intense sadness of bereavement and sometimes medical intervention can help break the cycle. I get that as I've been there in the way so many have.

Your love for your loved one will always draw you both together but meeting up in the way you're hoping for may not come about. I hope you experience success in what you're studying but there can be no guarantees. Out of body travel may work for some but it won't happen for others and it's perhaps more likely to be successful for those who are already psychically sensitive.

I'm not a medical practitioner but intense grief is something that may be helped by medication. I don't advocate taking drugs but short-term anti-depressants are worth considering if you haven't already. Putting too much hope into ways of reaching out via Astral travel etc may lead to disappointment when it fails with continuing grief and depression as consequneces.
 

mac

Administrator
I don't usually post general subjects in this special thread but for anyone reading and wondering about trying to contact a loved one may I please suggest you consider the traditional way? Evidential mediums, or as Americans often call them 'spiritual mediums', may be offering their services via Zoom. This means more choice and no need to travel and the UK has many mediums who offer online services.
 

mac

Administrator
I have several questions and would like to have a greater understanding about afterlife communications. My son transitioned March 2020. I somehow knew right away that he was not gone and I would need to understand how to have a different kind of relationship when someone isn't in a physical body anymore. After and with much grieving I have been exploring meditation (everyday), taking classes in mediumship and developing 'clairs,' and working with shamans and energy workers.

I've addressed the issue of grief elsewhere. I applaud your using meditation to help you but mediumship can not be learned in a similar way to learning other skills. There's an old saying that goes something like: "Mediums are born and not taught." I don't know who you are working with but if you have psychic sensitivity/awareness they MAY be able to help develop it further. But that's not developing mediumship. I don't want to seem I'm trying to put you off but I'd hate for you to pin too much hope on techniques.

1. I'm trying to become more attuned to the spirit world- like trying to tune in my television to a channel. I think I understand it has a lot to do with frequency and I try to live in a way that will increase my vibration, such as love and gratitude.
If you can become more settled in your emotions and more accepting of your son's passing you will begin to make the change. You don't need to try to live in any particular way or to try to tune in. It will either happen or it won't. Most of us are unlikely to find ourselves in a situation like Carol. Love and gratitude need to be felt and lived in our regular lives, something that can be hard when you're deep in grief and trying hard to reach out.

Mikey I'm wondering what you have to say about frequency in the afterlife and how I can tune in better? I understand pendulum is one way to communicate and I'm also interested in telepathy (clairaudience), automatic writing and EVPs.
It's tempting to think these ways of communicating can work and they're worth trying but please be realistic. Those who experience success may already be psychically sensitive, even if they're unaware of it. Being sensitive isn't necessarily something that can be 'picked up' or learned.

2. I'm curious that Roberta said information from you is credible because of your level but that many people may communicate with their loved ones and have misinformation about the afterlife. I found that upsetting because I trust in the communication I have with my son. I trust he is with us and has a higher perspective and level of understanding and I ask him for help all the time and to help me in raising his kids. But mostly I just send him love and receive his love and hugs through what I believe is clairsentience.
Just because someone has passed over into the so-called afterlife, the etheric world, they do not automatically become omniscient about it. What any spirit knows will be down to his experiences and overall spiritual progression. It's up to an individualhere how much they try to follow what they think they're being guided about by a loved one about but please do keep in mind that any supposed connection may not be infallible. The longer someone is away from this world the less in-tune they will be with what is happening here.

3. And my last question is about having an out of body experience. I am interested in experiencing non physical realms and to perhaps be able to have conversations with my son and my guides. I have an understanding that we do this each night when sleeping. Is that true? I have read about the 'vibratory state' and that you can travel in various 'bodies.' I'm going to a retreat to learn techniques for lucid dreaming, remote viewing, and out of body travel. Can you tell me Mikey about learning how to travel to non physical realms?
I understand your desperation to make contact again with your son but communications with those in the world of the spirit - for people fortunate enough to have them - are very different than the ones we have in this dimension. All the things you have read or heard are undoubtedly true for some individuals but may not be as widely experienced by others as you might hope. Be optimistic yet realistic. You may succeed but if things were as easy as it may appear then surely many more would be having success. I'm far from persuaded that's the actual situation though.....
 

mac

Administrator
quote: "I'm curious that Roberta said information from you is credible because of your level but that many people may communicate with their loved ones and have misinformation about the afterlife. I found that upsetting because I trust in the communication I have with my son. I trust he is with us and has a higher perspective and level of understanding and I ask him for help all the time and to help me in raising his kids. But mostly I just send him love and receive his love and hugs through what I believe is clairsentience."

I would need to know the full context of what Roberta wrote before I could be sure but it seems to me it's just a caution about what individuals may 'hear' or feel from their loved ones. As I remarked elsewhere, just because they've passed it doesn't mean they know everything about everything. They know for certain how they feel about what's happened and they may be able to convey what's happening presently and how they feel about it. If that brings you reassurance and comfort then that's a positive thing. But they may not know - or be fully aware of - much more of 'the big picture' than they were aware of before. And they may be unable to explain the philosophical things some people expect them to know about.

One aspect is that the more experienced the communicator, the more experienced the recipient, the less chance there is of mis-communicated information. In just this world we can have enough problems with miscommunication and with misunderstanding so it's hardly going to be easier or better when we're communicating in ways much less direct and across dimensions.

Another aspect is one Carol has already raised on numerous occasions throughtout three threads. It's vitally important we know exactly who we're communicating with and that we find a way to check on every occasion that we have the person we think we have. That applies to everyone, everywhere and whatever their relationships. It's not unknown for discarnate mischief-makers to pretend they're a loved one and to mislead and deceive an unwary recipient. Why would they do that? Because they enjoy making mischief. They're individuals who likely did the same on earth and still like to do it!
 
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bluebird

Major Contributor
I don't think abortion itself is ever "celebrated" -- what might be considered celebrated is the right to choose, and when governments don't enact fascist laws that remove that right.

(Incidentally, what is an "ONG"?)
 

Truth seeker

Active Member
I don't think abortion itself is ever "celebrated" -- what might be considered celebrated is the right to choose, and when governments don't enact fascist laws that remove that right.

(Incidentally, what is an "ONG"?)
Im sorry I put it on Spanish, its NGO non governmental organization .... Yes maybe my words were not the best , but you know what I mean, people seem very happy and almost doing parades for it... But Im interested on what Mikeys has to say about it...
 

mac

Administrator
The change is to decriminalize the act of terminating a pregnacy and it presently applies in just one of the states of Mexico, Coahuila. Women will not face prosecution in future and other states are expected to enact similar laws. Quite the change in a country that's predominantly Roman Catholic. As I understand things Texas has gone in the opposite direction.

As a Spiritualist I'm torn but as a human being I'm not. In the former case I accept the principle that we should not normally take action to end an incarnation but in the latter I support a woman's right to decide. The state should not be legislating any more than it should legislate over LGBTQ++ rights. But humans make human laws and the spirit doesn't get to determine or influence them.

Whatever any discarnate may say it won't change my position and my dilemma. This world presents us with unique experiences that are supposed to enhance the rate of our spiritual progress. I'm conflicted but prepared to accept that conflict and won't be swayed by what 'spirit' has to say on this matter - spirits don't face the situation so they don't get to tell us what to do.

Our individual approach to termination is a unique experience and it's for us as humankind to choose the way we feel about it.
 

bluebird

Major Contributor
Im sorry I put it on Spanish, its NGO non governmental organization .... Yes maybe my words were not the best , but you know what I mean, people seem very happy and almost doing parades for it... But Im interested on what Mikeys has to say about it...
Thanks for explaining; I googled "ONG", which didn't help, lol.

Yes, people are happy when human rights are maintained rather than denied -- that shouldn't really be a surprise.

I'm sure Carol and Mikey will provide their views soon enough.
 
Hi Carol and Mikey,
I have been using a pendulum since the late 90s. I always ask for Divine protection, guidance, and assistance before I do. I also recently have been using muscle testing in a similar fashion.

I am not yet totally familiar with the wheel Carol has used, but I am intrigued. My question or concern is drawing in negative entities who will give false information and trick us. I know you've mentioned this before. This is the reason Ouija boards are so bad and we are all taught to stay away from them. So how is using a pendulum and a wheel any safer than using a Ouija board, which also has letters on it, etc.? Is it really enough to simply ask for protection first?

I lost a dear friend of mine a little less than 2 weeks ago, and I just wonder if this is really a way I can converse with him. I'm also looking at ITC and perhaps trying to do my own EVP recordings. I have an email out to Sonia Rinaldi about that. There are a lot of apps one can buy or get for free for a cell phone, but I question their validity.

I also have an appointment with a trusted Medium to talk with my friend next week. Since I am not a medium, I am looking for other things I can do myself.

Thanks so much for any help or info.

Best wishes,
Jessy
 

Truth seeker

Active Member
Hi Truth seeker,
Been awhile! Hope you are doing ok as well! Working in health care has been a challenge no doubt but hanging in there!
Mikey actually touched on abortion in his book. And I just did a podcast with Roberta with this subject discussed a bit. Mikey tells me that life in the physical body begins when the silver cord (energy projection from our soul) embeds in the fertilized egg. Our energy is what gives the new life and makes the embryo grow. So basically at conception. The fertilized egg will not survive without a soul being attached by the silver cord according to Mikey. The soul commits to the life of the fertilized egg. A miscarriage occurs if the soul decides they're not ready yet to take on the life or for other reasons, and the silver cord is severed.
Mikey tells me we are to respect life. It is a gift for spiritual growth. Much work can be involved as we work through what we want to accomplish with our guides and soul group when in the afterlife before we come here for our journey according to Mikey. When we make the choice to end that soul's journey by abortion, it is not judged by our guides, but Mikey tells me it can be a horrible feeling when we return to the afterlife to discover what we actually did. We do have a life review (with our guides) and it is for our learning. It can be hard for the parent to forgive them self. We have a much better understanding of things when we return.
We are here to exercise our freewill to progress ourselves spiritually. It is a choice. But Mikey tells me it is the individual who made the choice to stop the life that can feel the guilt / sadness. Obviously there can be many different reasons a parent would make this choice, but Mikey tells me it is totally individual with the feeling that is involved after they ( the parent) transitions back to the afterlife. There needs to be guidance and learning with our guides during that time.
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
Thank you both of you for your time to answer this :) ...But I was more curious about the view of the spritual world about this practice being promoted and established more and more around the world...are they neutral, they dont care that much or they dont like it that is spreading ?

Im not judging or saying what one should or not do, neither Im stating if its good or bad, I only asked to know their opinion because I see that is getting approved on more places and I wondered what the spiritual world would think about this ....

thanks and take care, hope to see you someday in a future conference again
 

mac

Administrator
Hi Carol and Mikey,
I have been using a pendulum since the late 90s. I always ask for Divine protection, guidance, and assistance before I do. I also recently have been using muscle testing in a similar fashion.

I am not yet totally familiar with the wheel Carol has used, but I am intrigued. My question or concern is drawing in negative entities who will give false information and trick us. I know you've mentioned this before. This is the reason Ouija boards are so bad and we are all taught to stay away from them. So how is using a pendulum and a wheel any safer than using a Ouija board, which also has letters on it, etc.? Is it really enough to simply ask for protection first?

I lost a dear friend of mine a little less than 2 weeks ago, and I just wonder if this is really a way I can converse with him. I'm also looking at ITC and perhaps trying to do my own EVP recordings. I have an email out to Sonia Rinaldi about that. There are a lot of apps one can buy or get for free for a cell phone, but I question their validity.

I also have an appointment with a trusted Medium to talk with my friend next week. Since I am not a medium, I am looking for other things I can do myself.

Thanks so much for any help or info.

Best wishes,
Jessy
Carol's relationship with her son, Mikey, when using a pendulum is very different from using a pendulum just to try to initiate communication with an unspecific spirit individual. In doing that it's little different from using a ouija board unless one is able to find a reliable, repeatable way to 'be sure who you're working with. You've been using a pendulum for over 20 years.

In general however - for any reader following this conversation - I offer a caution about making casual spirit contact in any way. Making oneself available to the attentions of discarnates runs the risk you'll attract a spirit whose interest may not be your best interest. This thread isn't the right place to go into this topic but it has been discussed elsewhere on ALF.

Mikey will respond in due course but in respect of the passing of your friend my own thoughts are as follows. You already know the situation with using a pendulum. Do you think it's a good way to establish communication? As far as ITC and EVP are concerned they've both been discussed at length here on ALF. Phone apps are unproven but in my view unlikely to be any more effective than any other way.

The 'dead' aren't just sitting around waiting for someone to contact them whether that's via electronic means or via mediumship. They come because they want to communicate with us and thus far evidential (spiritual) mediumship appears the most efficacious way.
 
Yes, I agree that trying to communicate with an unspecific spirit individual is not a good idea at all, for all of the reasons you mentioned above.
My intention would be to reach specific, known, loved ones. I've never used a pendulum in this way. I just became curious when I heard Carol talk about it in an interview with Roberta. I've used a pendulum for measuring energy of foods and supplements, as well as muscle testing, when choosing if something is right for my body or not. I've never used it to communicate with a deceased loved one.

I also know that in preparation for a session with a medium, one needs to invite who one wants to speak to, prepare questions, and set an intention. It's not a casual thing.
 

mac

Administrator
Thank you both of you for your time to answer this :) ...But I was more curious about the view of the spritual world about this practice being promoted and established more and more around the world...are they neutral, they dont care that much or they dont like it that is spreading ?

Im not judging or saying what one should or not do, neither Im stating if its good or bad, I only asked to know their opinion because I see that is getting approved on more places and I wondered what the spiritual world would think about this ....

thanks and take care, hope to see you someday in a future conference again
I do understand your desire to hear what's thought in the world of the spirit, albeit the view only of one individual. Three decades and more ago I used to think similarly about ''what the spirit world' thinks about one subject or another. Over time, however, it's dawned on me that 'the spirit world' does not have a single view on anything. The world of the spirit is one of individuals just as with this one. Both are populated by individuals and any one individual may see things differently from any other.

You have asked what Mikey thinks about termination and he'll give his view in due course, that of a single individual. He can't speak for all others although he may know the views of some of his peers and maybe those of others less spiritually advanced. But decades ago respected guide and teacher Silver Birch was asked his views about reincarnation. Part of his response was that among his peers were those who asserted they had never met anyone who had reincarnated but he - Silver Birch - had no doubt that reincarnation was a reality. If Silver Birch saw things differently from his peers, we should be cautious about thinking there's a spiritual 'world view' on subjects.

I'm very appreciative of Mikey's thoughts but we should always remember that his approach on this and perhaps other issues isn't necessarily guidance on how we incarnates should see matters. I try always to apply SB's principle to what I hear - "Accept only what appeals to your reason." It's why I said earlier that as a Spiritualist I see termination in one light but as a very ordinary human I see it in another. I'm pulled in opposite directions!

When I pass over I may see it predominantly one way because I will have lost contact with the trials and tribulations of life incarnate, the awful emotional pressures women are under when they consider their position with a pregnancy they're not comfortable with. It's surely got to be similar for those who offer their view from 'the other side' of the veil.
 

mac

Administrator
Yes, I agree that trying to communicate with an unspecific spirit individual is not a good idea at all, for all of the reasons you mentioned above.
My intention would be to reach specific, known, loved ones. I've never used a pendulum in this way. I just became curious when I heard Carol talk about it in an interview with Roberta. I've used a pendulum for measuring energy of foods and supplements, as well as muscle testing, when choosing if something is right for my body or not. I've never used it to communicate with a deceased loved one.

I also know that in preparation for a session with a medium, one needs to invite who one wants to speak to, prepare questions, and set an intention. It's not a casual thing.
I'm glad you see matters the way you do and I did figure what your intention was likely to be.

Like yourself I'm not a medium but I always caution we can't choose who we want to communicate with. The spirit individual has to want to communicate with you. Tutor and medium Martin Twycross made that point in one of his tutorials recently and it struck me as being highly important. Carol's relationship, Carol's mediumship, is unusual if not actually unique and in my view unlikely to be replicated.

If someone is intending to sit with a medium then the thoughts they have about who they'd like to 'hear from' will go out to that individual but of course there's no reason not to make a special point of sending your thoughts - or speaking the words out loud - to the one you're hoping to hear from. As for setting the scene over what you'd like it's not like preparing an agenda that a spirit communicator will be aware of and (s)he won't be governed or even influenced by what you'd like to happen. Just 'getting through' and showing their presence can be a big enough ask.

My suggestion would be that you just send out your loving thoughts to your friend and ask him to come and make his presence clear to you via the medium.
 
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mac

Administrator
This topic deserves its own spot but as it's already running here I'll continue for now and we'll see if it generates enough interest to be continued in a separate thread.

Whatever we may feel personally about abortion there are some additional issues I think deserve consideration....

Firstly it’s a female issue. A man is involved in causing the problem but the mother faces her problem alone save for the support she may get, and deserves to get, from the father.

Male views count for less except for the support they should provide for the woman’s decision. They don’t give birth and don’t have the stress a female does. Even other females shouldn’t get to determine what any other woman must do.

All THAT should put the cat among the pigeons! Spiritually it’s an interesting and very different position. Childbirth may be unique to this particular world.

It’s the ONLY way spirits can get to experience incarnation here.

A female is very special given she’s the only way to get into this world.

She doesn’t have any obligation to provide such a service.

She doesn’t have to see it to completion.

Her role and all the positive expectations that accompany it - expectation and anticipation of motherhood etc. - may anyway cease at the drop of a hat without her involvement. eg miscarriage and neo-natal death

The physical and emotional load of motherhood is enormous. Not all females experience it in the same way or to the same degree. Why should women expect other women to adopt their personal values, share their views and approach when it’s such a personal issue?

Outside of just those few randomly-chosen issues there are deeper spiritual considerations but unless we find a better overall understanding than we presently have - seemingly very little! - of the way of the spirit then most of those aspects are essentially meaningless for many/most of us.
 

bluebird

Major Contributor
Jeana,

I'm sure Carol and Mikey will be along to answer, but in the meantime -- may I ask why you think Mikey (or anyone) would be bored without pain, conflict, and drama?? I find that an odd stance. I would be thrilled to have none of those things in my life or on the earth now (and certainly the best times in life don't have any of those things), and even more thrilled (assuming there is an afterlife) to have an eternal existence without them!
 
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