mediumship and medium

mac

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I know from long experience that there are many misunderstandings and part of that is down to the words we use. Only this morning I was writing to someone online about a scheduled meeting and explaining that the medium who would attend - my good friend - was a 'natural medium'.

Later I got to thinking. I knew exactly what I meant by that term and what was different about such a medium. But then I reflected over whether others also know?

As I did I realised it was almost tautological. Aren't ALL mediums natural mediums? What would be an unnatural one by comparison? Mediums are born and not made; it's an old saying. How much more natural could it be?

It's similarly tautological to refer to a 'psychic medium' - mediums are by their very nature, highly psychic. If they weren't they wouldn't be effective mediums. But 'psychic medium' is often used when what's really meant is 'a psychic'.

I don't talk a lot, especially about my 'specialist' subjects, much preferring the written word. It was slightly surreal, then, to find myself with three mediums and chatting with them about what mediumship truly should mean. One was from the US, the other two from the UK. As we talked it was clear that the US medium was used to doing something very different from what a UK medium would do. That was an interesting illustration of something I'd picked up elsewhere.

The conversation moved on to misunderstandings and how 'ghost' and 'spirit' are frequently muddled and misunderstood. The US medium said to me she didn't really understand the difference and asked, "How do you define a ghost compared with a spirit?" I quickly explained the difference but was surprised a medium would be asking me. Later it dawned on me why that was.

Over the years I've become ever-clearer in my mind about mediumship and certain other subjects. I hadn't realised before, however, that things hadn't been clear! In the past I must have thought I did know, and quite possibly I actually did, but now I have a clarity of understanding that was missing earlier. I'm grateful to those who have gotten it through to me.

So now I have confidence in declaring what's what and not feeling I should defer to the experience/status of others I had simply been assuming knew more than I. I am equally grateful to those who have worked on me to eventually reach that point!
 

mac

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A simple explanation from the Spiritualists' National Union:

"What is Mediumship?

The main aim of mediumship is to provide evidence of survival of the human personality beyond physical death. Mediumship is a transfer of information from the spirit of a deceased person via a 'medium' to a 'recipient'.

A medium has the ability to receive information from a communicating spirit and pass on that information. In many respects this will be personal to the recipient of the communication."


The last paragraph is important in helping differentiate psychic sensitivity/awareness from mediumship, issues commonly misunderstood.

Where the beneficiary of information is the individual herself/himself then it's psychic sensitivity.

When communicated information is for the benefit of a third person it's mediumship.

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Sentient 1

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Even a natural medium, as you call it, can improve with training.

The difference between a ghost and spirit is this, a ghost is a human mind that is now in the soul body. The word spirit is used when a human has no idea what some being is made of but it is something other than material.

So, essentially ghosts are spirits but because they usually look human they are called ghosts when, really, they are made of the same thing as some being that does not look human.
 

mac

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Even a natural medium, as you call it, can improve with training.
I don't call it..... The description 'natural medium' is often chosen by a medium to indicate it's mediumship that's been there 'from the outset' and not changed/improved/modified by outside influence. It's debatable whether a natural medium's links would improve with training but delivery can always be improved.

The difference between a ghost and spirit is this, a ghost is a human mind that is now in the soul body.
I think you're misunderstanding.

The word spirit is used when a human has no idea what some being is made of but it is something other than material.
fair comment - That may indeed often be the case.

So, essentially ghosts are spirits.....
not quite
Whatever a ghost may be - and I'm not going to spend energy trying to nail that - it differs from a spirit in two importamt ways.
1. We're not able to communicate with a ghost.
2. A ghost can not animate a physical body whereas a spirit can.
 

Sentient 1

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I don't call it..... The description 'natural medium' is often chosen by a medium to indicate it's mediumship that's been there 'from the outset' and not changed/improved/modified by outside influence. It's debatable whether a natural medium's links would improve with training but delivery can always be improved.

I think you're misunderstanding.

fair comment - That may indeed often be the case.

not quite
Whatever a ghost may be - and I'm not going to spend energy trying to nail that - it differs from a spirit in two importamt ways.
1. We're not able to communicate with a ghost.
2. A ghost can not animate a physical body whereas a spirit can.
Ghosts can not jump a person? They may or may not be able to depending on their ability.

A "spirit" can animate a physical body? But a ghost is a spirit. It's the same thing. It's just that some ghosts may have more abilities than others. And some of what you call "spirits" were never human at all.

In the USA there was this college football player named Jamarcus Russell. When he was showing off before the NFL draft he went out to a football field and he got on his knees. From his knees he threw the football more than 50 yards. Just because he can do something that other humans cannot do doesn't mean he's not human.
 

mac

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Ghosts can not jump a person? They may or may not be able to depending on their ability.
"jump a person"? What on earth do you mean by jump?

A "spirit" can animate a physical body? But a ghost is a spirit. It's the same thing.
no - That's wrong.
It's just that some ghosts may have more abilities than others.
Ghosts - whatever they may be - have no abilities of any description.

And some of what you call "spirits" were never human at all.
You're changing the subject now....

In the USA there was this college football player named Jamarcus Russell. When he was showing off before the NFL draft he went out to a football field and he got on his knees. From his knees he threw the football more than 50 yards. Just because he can do something that other humans cannot do doesn't mean he's not human.
Are you being serious? How does that relate to the thread subject?
 

Sentient 1

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"jump a person"? What on earth do you mean by jump?

no - That's wrong. Ghosts - whatever they may be - have no abilities of any description.

You're changing the subject now....

Are you being serious? How does that relate to the thread subject?
Jump means to take over a human body. To possess it, usually temporarily. You are obviously not a medium.

Spirit and ghosts are not the same thing? We're going to have to agree to disagree.

Ghosts do not have abilities of any description? You really are not a medium.

I'm changing the subject? No, I'm giving more information where it's really needed.

How does my story relate to the subject? The story means that beings of the same category might have different abilities. The term "spirit" is human misunderstanding. To humans that word basically means "I have no idea what that is but it's not made of matter as I know it."

Ghosts and the human term "spirits" are made of the same thing. Now, even though they are made of the same thing they may have different abilities. I'm human but I cannot throw a football 50 yards from my knees (most humans can't) while Jamarcus Russell can. That does not mean that I am like a ghost and he is like a spirit. We're both human. And ghosts and spirits are made of the same thing it's just that a "spirit" is something that doesn't look like a human, or might have exceptional abilities, so you think it's something else.
 

mac

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Jump means to take over a human body. To possess it, usually temporarily. You are obviously not a medium.

Spirit and ghosts are not the same thing? We're going to have to agree to disagree.

Ghosts do not have abilities of any description? You really are not a medium.

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