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BruceAdama

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@bluebird… Okay, but for someone to assume the “mission”, for lack of a better term of an incarnate life in the afterlife realm… one… if it were possible to duplicate the Earthly struggles in that realm, why incarnate to begin with? And second, a life affects everyone who ever comes into contact with it (on Earth)… so, wouldn’t that, as mac has often said, require others to be willing to go along with the illusion? That would mean that the soul of EVERYONE who would have ever had contact with the child on Earth, during its life plan, would have to be willing to participate in the recreation of the would-have-been life.
 

bluebird

Major Contributor
Bruce,

As to your first point/question -- why incarnate at all if one could duplicate any earthly experience in the afterlife -- I really don't know. Maybe it does feel more "real" to the experiencer if the experience actually occurs in a physical life on earth, or maybe it's just a matter of personal preference. Or maybe I'm wrong about being able to duplicate certain earthly experiences in the afterlife, I don't know.

Regarding your second point/question, if it is possible to duplicate any earthly experience in the afterlife, and if it would also be possible to choose not to know/remember during the experience that one was actually in the afterlife and not living through it on earth, then maybe no other souls would need to go along with the illusion -- maybe one could "live" through the experience entirely within one's own mind or soul. As I type this, I realize that that's kind of what I was thinking when I originally mentioned the possibility of recreating an experience in the afterlife. If that isn't possible, but if creating any experience in the afterlife is possible, then I still don't think the person would need for everyone with whom s/he had been in contact on earth to participate -- only those who were in contact with her/him during a particular experience.

That is, of course, assuming that the person wants to live/relive particular experiences, not her/his entire life. I don't know if the latter would be possible -- but then, I don't know if any of this would actually be possible. I'm just mentioning some of what I view as possibilities, but everything I'm saying here is my opinion only, as I have no first-hand knowledge of the afterlife (at least not any currently accessible to me).
 
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mac

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-- why incarnate at all if one could duplicate any earthly experience in the afterlife -- I really don't know.
You CAN'T duplicate the conditions here on earth for a variety of reasons and you CAN'T create the sense of (apparently) being separated from source or 'God' as folk express it. It's one reason we journey here. You CAN, though, simulate SOME conditions but that's all they are - simulations. Perhaps not unlike role play games, RPG?


Regarding your second point/question, if it is possible to duplicate any earthly experience in the afterlife, and if it would also be possible to choose not to know/remember during the experience that one was actually in the afterlife and not living through it on earth, then maybe no other souls would need to go along with the illusion -- maybe one could "live" through the experience entirely within one's own mind or soul.
This is yet another example of trying to understand issues in isolation from their overall context - in much the same way as the details below.


As I type this, I realize that that's kind of what I was thinking when I originally mentioned the possibility of recreating an experience in the afterlife. If that isn't possible, but if creating any experience in the afterlife is possible, then I still don't think the person would need for everyone with whom s/he had been in contact on earth would need to participate -- only those were were in contact with her/him during a particular experience.
 

mac

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@bluebird.... so, wouldn’t that, as mac has often said, require others to be willing to go along with the illusion?
I don't think mac said any such thing...... Are you failing to remember or deliberately misquoting me?
 

mac

janitor / administrator
Staff member
Please remember this.

You don't have any experience of what you're writing about - it's all hypothetical for you and you don't even have any conviction about an afterlife anyway. It's all "maybe" and "if" for you.

Worse yet is that you haven't studied anything that might just help you with such difficult and special issues and neither have you grasped the fundamentals which are way simpler than the complex situations you're trying to discuss.

You may be far brighter than this dumb-cluck and you may know far more than I have managed to get my head around after nearly 4 decades of looking at the whole picture, but I'm not seeing it in any of your hypotheses. Isn't it time to first get to grips with the basics?
 
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