Anyone Seen An Apparition?

ravensgate

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Why do you wish you hadn't? I'm still thrilled to bits a whole year later, yet live in dread of it happening again in case of seeing the face! The expression would just devastate me, and the mere idea of it has kept me awake and trembling beneath the covers each time my husband has been away for a year now. (That won't happen again as he's retiring within the month as coming up to age sixty! Yes, I do know how silly I've been!) Then again, did I somehow for that reason choose not to see the top of the body, in the same way I only saw it once, thereby keeping it special? Did I just see what I wanted to see?
I read the comments beneath an online site where people who had seen apparitions sensibly put the blame on normal explanations. Why was that not my reaction? I get occasional migraines with aura. The aura is obviously still there when you move your head. This apparition of my son: First if all I addressed it as I thought it was my husband home early, such was the strong sense of presence, turned towards it, then followed it with my vision, as it bent over me wearing chinos and a plaid shirt! Surely a grief hallucination, which is the psychiatric explanation, can't always be the answer eighteen months from the death, or even years afterwards? I know there are no answers but just in case someone out there has any ideas.

Ruby, my apology for the late response to your post. Perhaps I ought to begin by letting you know that I was raised in a family where religion was not discussed much and even less practiced. I was baptized "to keep the rest of the family quiet" - as my mother once told me. I grew up agnostic and, later, as I progressed through my medical studies, atheist. I was my belief that once you die, that's it, the camera lens closes, show is over, oblivion; nothing else. The soul leaving the body? Silly. Animals surviving their physical death? Ludicrous! At the top of my specialty (at that time it was neuropsychiatry, which eventually split into the more distinct specialties of psychiatry and neurology) I had a bit of the arrogant "expert" attitude. Today, at times I feel a bit embarrassed, but I suppose I could see it as the way things were meant to unfold. I will share with you two apparitions. I will later share a couple of veridical experiences.

One evening I was sitting in my dining room going over some papers. I was quite involved with my paperwork, but suddenly I felt as if "something" wasn't quite right. I shrugged off the feeling and continued with my work. Eventually, my attention was caught by a light between the dining room door and one of the halls. I looked straight at it and could not believe my eyes. A young man who had died a year or two before was standing there looking at me and smiling. I felt unable to speak (a rare occurrence for me!) and just looked, trying to think of some rational explanation for the vision. His entire figure looked as if covered by thousands of tiny lights. The body looked solid enough but what caught my attention in particular was that the light(s) was not static, it/they was/were energized. He said something to me (I prefer not to say), but his lips did not move. All I said during the encounter was his name, was still trying to explain to myself how I could explain it all "logically". I wasn't able to do so.

The second experience I'm sharing with you is the apparition of my German shepherd dog. Of all our dogs, I had a very special bond with her; in my eyes, in my opinion, she was the best of the best. A couple of weeks or more since her death, I was in my bedroom reading a magazine. I hear my 2 dogs (a Rottweiler and a Heinz 57) getting a bit too excited playing somewhere in the hall or foyer; so I told them to settle down. They did, but only for seconds, and then they started up again. I got annoyed, and headed to the hall to give them "a good talking to". Well, what I saw stopped me in my tracks. In the hall, facing the grandfather clock, was my beloved GSD. She was looking at me, tongue sticking out, looked like she did when in her prime, even better actually. It's as if she was showing off how wonderful she looked, finally free of her painful arthritis. I called out her name, she was wagging her tail, looking so happy, sassy, full of health (I'm getting emotional as I type this, so many years later!). I walked toward her, hoping to touch her, but she slowly vanished. I was unable to explain the apparition, I was not thinking about her, I was not reading anything even remotely associated with any of this. Her entire body was covered in what looked like brilliant frost as if thousands of tiny white lights covered her. The lights surrounding the apparition of the young man looked exactly like the lights covering my beloved GSD. Unless some yet-to-be-discovered neural circuitry was at play in both instances, I failed in my repeated attempts to explain these events.
 

Ruby

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Thank you so much for this marvellous description! I've been sneaking peeks to see if you've replied yet, so am hot on your heels here! I'm so reassured yet surprised by your specialty that you still believe the apparitions were real and you can't find a normal explanation! I too remember seeing the many little points of light!
 

genewardsmith

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It should be noted that apparitions are not always of someone well-known or loved, which weakens the case for a psychological explanation.
 

Ruby

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The dogs barking is an interesting aspect, as suggests they were aware of the visitor, if we can assume that was the reason for the barking.
 

Ruby

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Ravensgate, you haven't written about the veridical experiences you mentioned on 23rd March! You may have already done so in the past, so if you don't feel up to the typing you could refer me to the relevant thread. I would be so very interested to read them.
I note you mention unknown neural circuitry as a possible explanation for apparitions. I happened to see a book on hypnotism meant for dentists last night and am aware of the complexity of consciousness, but couldn't really make much of it, but you'd understand this subject and presumably didn't see any obvious solution in hypnotism? It's still odd to think people only see the dead, and not the living, if psychologists put the experiences down to grief. (I know they're called "grief hallucinations"). I'm quite sure people can grieve just as much for those who leave them, who they know they'll never see again, as for the dead. Imagine the trauma of waving off early emigrants from Europe to America in former times. I wonder if those who remained were ever visited by apparitions? (I suppose back then it was never mentioned as would be taken as a sign of madness; still is by many!) Or the end of a romance, or a beloved parent leaving a child who can't understand what's happened. I can still remember the upset when my schoolfriend moved hundreds of miles away when I was about eight. So is it just that in some way the finality of death alone affects the brain? But then when you take shared and veridical experiences into account it becomes very interesting.
 

Ruby

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Hmmm, I read the other day that occasionally people have claimed to see the living when they physically are elsewhere, so bang goes that theory. I really can't seem to think through the implications of this. Too tired. At the weekend two people have told me they've seen dead people too, neither sure of the nature of what it was they were seeing. One so terrified he immediately fled from the empty house he was painting, so sure was he that his mother-in-law was behind him! It's certainly not an uncommon experience, but I wonder how experiencers accommodate it when they've finally stopped searching for answers. I think I just prefer to believe it was a visit. I only have to remember how real it was at the time. After all, there are plenty of very intelligent people who take these things seriously, so I'm in good company. I needn't think I'm crazy.
 

Kurt

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Hmmm, I read the other day that occasionally people have claimed to see the living when they physically are elsewhere, so bang goes that theory. I really can't seem to think through the implications of this. Too tired. At the weekend two people have told me they've seen dead people too, neither sure of the nature of what it was they were seeing. One so terrified he immediately fled from the empty house he was painting, so sure was he that his mother-in-law was behind him! It's certainly not an uncommon experience, but I wonder how experiencers accommodate it when they've finally stopped searching for answers. I think I just prefer to believe it was a visit. I only have to remember how real it was at the time. After all, there are plenty of very intelligent people who take these things seriously, so I'm in good company. I needn't think I'm crazy.

Poor painter....

If that happened to me I would be screaming in pain.

The reason why is I would be running so fast my shoes would light on fire.
 

Kurt

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On another note however, there is something interesting that has happened to me.


Every now and then I will have a dream about a girl I have never met who gives me advice spiritually.

I have even seen her out of the corner of my eye for a millisecond or so.

I assume she is my spirit guide but I am not sure. I feel we are connected in a way.
 

Kurt

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Im not certain of anything. I feel as if we have a metaphysical connection but that she may not even be here in this realm.

Maybe another one? The afterlife? I am not sure.

I feel like I am here to cause something big but at the same time advance myself enough to move on to a higher state of existence.
 

Kurt

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Maybe we are from the same soul cell or we knew each other in a previous life.

Perhaps we are from 2 different planes but somehow connected.

We both exist at the same time and are connected metaphysically

So.... Spirit guide sounds about right.
 

Kurt

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I used to live on Hickam airfield. Very haunted. That was the only time I ever found a hostile apparition.
 

Kurt

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But my favorite rapper died a year ago.... His name was Lil Bo Peep. Funny how you said that, lol.
 

poeticblue

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Does that sound like a spirit guide?

Hi Kurt.. my guess is that she may perhaps be someone in your same soul group or more than likely just a friendly spirit. I can’t say for certain and most certainly don’t want to give you wrong information and claim she is a spirit guide. This is your life experience and eventually you will learn and tell the difference from what you are experiencing more than any of us.

On another note, speaking of rain.. It’s coming down real bad in Atlanta Ga right now. I love it, but at the same time it’s difficult to get out and drive safely. The winds are extremely high and the trees are tilting over. It should be over within the next couple of hours so hopefully we can get out and do something today.
 

ravensgate

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Ravensgate, you haven't written about the veridical experiences you mentioned on 23rd March! You may have already done so in the past, so if you don't feel up to the typing you could refer me to the relevant thread. I would be so very interested to read them.
I note you mention unknown neural circuitry as a possible explanation for apparitions. I happened to see a book on hypnotism meant for dentists last night and am aware of the complexity of consciousness, but couldn't really make much of it, but you'd understand this subject and presumably didn't see any obvious solution in hypnotism? It's still odd to think people only see the dead, and not the living, if psychologists put the experiences down to grief. (I know they're called "grief hallucinations"). I'm quite sure people can grieve just as much for those who leave them, who they know they'll never see again, as for the dead. Imagine the trauma of waving off early emigrants from Europe to America in former times. I wonder if those who remained were ever visited by apparitions? (I suppose back then it was never mentioned as would be taken as a sign of madness; still is by many!) Or the end of a romance, or a beloved parent leaving a child who can't understand what's happened. I can still remember the upset when my schoolfriend moved hundreds of miles away when I was about eight. So is it just that in some way the finality of death alone affects the brain? But then when you take shared and veridical experiences into account it becomes very interesting.

My apologies, Ruby. Ended up out of town and working (though I fool myself claiming I'm "retired", lol). One experience I'd like to share with you concerns a patient of mine who told me that his brother-in-law ----- (he mentioned his name) had died and had come to see him. I knew nothing about his BIL, but asked him why he had visited. He looked at me as if I had grown a few extra heads, and told me his BIL visited because he was "more than ready" to leave his broken body. He told me "they" were still working on him, but it was useless because his BIL had no intention of coming back.

Medically speaking there was no reason to believe my patient was at the end of his life; a bit depressed, perhaps, but scans and all lab work consistently unremarkable. My patient never left his room, walked a few times in the ICU, never venturing outside of it. I dismissed his story, preferring to think he had a dream/hallucination; nevertheless, something kept nagging at me. After seeing the other patients, I asked one of the nurses if any codes were called during the previous 8 hours: 3 codes, two in MICU and one on the med-surg floor. She told me the med-surg floor was still in progress. I must admit at this point I grew a bit more interested in this med-surg code (though still trying to throw all this "nonsense" out of my mind!).

I was extremely surprised - stunned might be a better choice of words - to find out that yes, the code was still going on, a member of this patient's family was in the visitors' lounge. Walked there, to find out he (the relative) had another member of his family in the ICU - my patient! He was waiting for the rest of the family to arrive. Told me his uncle (the patient in distress) was not feeling well that day, ended up needing an ambulance and admitted to hospital to run "some tests"; they never thought his life would be on the line, yet there he was...
The family did not tell my patient in the ICU of his BIL's death until the following day. He told me that when they shared the news he wasn't surprised one bit because he "already knew that!" He then said he'd be going to join his BIL shortly, and within 14 hours he too checked out of this world.
This is one of my most recent experiences, but there are several others. I will share them with you as time allows.
 

Ruby

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Thanks, Ravensgate. I think cases like these are very compelling for us to read, especially coming from someone like yourself, alert and at work!
 

ravensgate

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Thanks, Ravensgate. I think cases like these are very compelling for us to read, especially coming from someone like yourself, alert and at work!

Ruby, I think you will find Dr. Moody's "Glimpses of Eternity" a very interesting read. I especially like Glimpses of Eternity because it hits very, very close to my experiences in the field!
 

Kurt

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Hi Kurt.. my guess is that she may perhaps be someone in your same soul group or more than likely just a friendly spirit. I can’t say for certain and most certainly don’t want to give you wrong information and claim she is a spirit guide. This is your life experience and eventually you will learn and tell the difference from what you are experiencing more than any of us.

On another note, speaking of rain.. It’s coming down real bad in Atlanta Ga right now. I love it, but at the same time it’s difficult to get out and drive safely. The winds are extremely high and the trees are tilting over. It should be over within the next couple of hours so hopefully we can get out and do something today.

Nice. I made a recording of the rain out here in San Antonio but it is to large to upload
 
Yes I have a few times and in different ways. Ive been investigating 'ghosts' for about 14 yrs now. I specialise now in EVP.Some of these times I have been in company and they have seen it too or Ive seen it alone. These have been seen with the naked eye but have also seen the odd spirit with my third eye. I do have some ability but its uncontrolled and I have never really worked on it.
I have found that spirit can manifest in many different ways to the naked eye and usually they are spirits closer to the earth plane. I have seen higher spirits with my third eye and felt them as well. I have also felt a spirit that I think was unhuman and for some reason I couldnt see it but felt its energy clairsentiently
Let me describe as best I can, the spirits that I saw with my naked eye.

A man spirit who came home with me from an investigation. I was sitting in my lounge room watching tv with my husband when this spirit just walked straight across in front of me and the tv at a pace that a man would walk. I saw the outline of him good enough to tell his height and that it was a man. It was like a fine line and then the inside of him was distorted , almost like how heat on a road distorts the air above. Reminded me a little bit of the movie ' Predator'. I only saw him for a few seconds as he walked across and I looked at my husband in shock and he hadnt seen anything. I didnt ask him but I know from no reaction, he didnt see him.

Ive seen a few shadow ghosts. One initially initated as a yellowish light in a room with no electricity. I was a little away from the window. I froze ( that feeling you sometimes get when you know its paranormal lol) and then called to the rest of my team. They went to the window and were excited and then I walked over and looked in and there was enough light in the room coming from an outside street light, to be able to distinguish this small shadow thing about 3 feet tall , almost like a blob, and it was darting from one end of the room to the other. It darted like a wild animal would at night foraging for food. The room was completely empty of any furniture and it was plainly seen by all.

Ive also seen, at the same large location (Quarantine Station Sydney) in another 2 story building, a strange shadow. I was with my sister and we were walking away from the locked building with no one inside. The lights were left on. There was a 4 paned window on the stair case and we both watched a black shadow moving from the bottom of the pane to the top, almost like it was standing on the staircase. It reminded me of when you put ink in water. It sort of dispersed or moved like that and you could gage the movement by the window panes.

Ive also seen a swift moving shadow that had bad energy. I dont know what that was and I never want to see that again. It flew from one end of a room to the other back and forward and it reminded me of the shadows in ' Ghost' that came for the man who murdered his friend and work collegue.

Ive also seen spirits in orb form with my eyes. I also have footage of this and we frequented this place a lot and we always saw 2 spirits following each other in a line and the lights were bright and would flash and it was inside a building..not fireflys. Didnt look like that anyway. I also have footage of a man saying he can see them against the door and then the video showing them on the door when he says this. Also seen coloured sparks like this.

Only once have I seen your typical apparition. It was in the company of 3 other people. All saw it except for 1 person which was strange. I dont understand why. It was in an old train tunnel well known for sightings. We had set up an IR camera but it was down the other end of the tunnel on a tripod and it was too far to pick up what we saw. We had walked down the tunnel a bit. Often before in this tunnel we had seen coloured lights at the end of the tunnel and they would resemble what I can only describe in appearance, as looking like the very last light of a professional firework , when they fade out. This night we saw the white one but instead of it fading out, it got bigger and bigger and then it took on the form of a woman in a dress. It sort of looked like a hologram and it gave off a light like the moon that lit up the tunnel walls. It was also about 3 feet off the ground and it glided from side to side, at one time moving towards us and then backed off again. We saw it for a couple of minutes and then the light faded and it got small again and it went into the one light, and faded out completely. I got a lot of evp in that tunnel also and in the day time. There was also a spirit that would toss rocks near us but not to hit us.

When I see the spirits with my third eye, its like a quick daydream. It will only last a couple of seconds, like a flash but usually its vivid and I can describe what I saw. I hate when that happens lol. After that I will be searching history to find something on what I saw and mostly I dont find anything. I like to verify my evp also with history. Many times I get my evp verified through what I find historically
 
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