Anyone Seen An Apparition?

mac

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Thanks Baob, it's actually terrifying. Dead people are not supposed to be! I still feel nervous in the dark. Terrifying, but thrilling!

I've told this short tale many times. :)

Some years ago - a LOT of years ago! - I was learning my stuff and notionally being helped by a psychic/medium. As we got to know each other better I began to organise venues for her to give demonstrations and teach. One night we got talking after folk had left one of the sessions.

Long story short my medium friend was frightened of the dark in a similar way to kids (and adults!) who are scared of seeing ghosts and ghouls when it's dark. I was amused at that but more shocked she'd be afraid of encountering 'things' in the dark given she was a psychic/medium.

I guess I'd also be startled and alarmed if I encountered something in my own home when it was dark because it's instinct. I would hope, though, I'd only be excited rather than scared once I realised it was a spirit visitor but until that actually happens I won't know! :D
 

Ruby

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I suppose it must be instinctive to be wary when we can't see what's around us.

I was thinking about children's imaginary friends. I had one apparently, and my mother used to set an extra place setting at the table as she said I'd insist on it. Someone I know said their grand-daughter went through a stage of having one, and their dog would be looking in the same direction and showing signs of seeing the friend. Another said her three children had one, and as adults they had a discussion about it and they said they hadn't realised the child wasn't really there. This lady and her husband could sometimes see the faint swing of a skirt out of the corner of their eyes as their children ran about.
 

Ruby

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An intriguing report popped into my inbox today: Santa Montfiori has seen Tara's ghost twice! It's interesting that twice is fine, but every day would suggest a mental disorder! (I'm joking).
British members will remember Tara Palmer-Tomkinson as a glamorous socialite and "it girl" in the 1990's, and her elder sister Santa as a novelist who is married to Simon Sebag-Montefiori, the historian and occasional television presenter. Their parents are old friends of Prince Charles, and I seem to remember the girls' unusual names have a connection to a South American grandmother, or somesuch. Anyway, apparently Tara is happy where she is! Santa has been dabbling in a few mediumship classes and has included her amazing experiences in a recent novel entitled "Here and Now". I will have to look out for it, as I very much admire Santa and Simon. I'm so glad for Santa that this has happened. It really takes all the gloom and doom away.
 

Ruby

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Regarding the above post, it is understandable that people who have seen a ghost are interested in hearing from others who have had the same experience. We are eager to hear if others have more insight than we do. Our individual experience is necessarily limited. A notable feature of paranormal experiences is the absolute conviction that something out of the ordinary has happened. Most people are familiar with hallucinations and altered states of consciousness. They can't explain why, but they just know that their so-called paranormal experience had a very different quality. This doesn't seem to be a rational conviction, more of an emotional one. However, because we trust our rational, logical thinking over our intuitive side, when questioned by skeptics, we fail to make a good impression. Why this universal strong sense of conviction though, which refutes all normal explanations?
 

Ruby

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Are we all just fooling ourselves though? I've only watched Derren Brown about once as I prefer just sleight of hand type magic tricks, but I read a TV review as he was on the box the other night. The reviewer said much depends on his absolute self-belief. He can subliminally plant words and numbers in people's subconscious. "He can't know for certain that it's going to work, but his confidence and charisma don't falter and it pays off". Apparently he made an atheist have a religious experience, and persuaded a woman she was dead by looking at her body in a car crash. He says he executes his psychological illusions to make a wider philosophical point, such as exposing charlatan psychics or challenging religious claims. Am I talking to myself on this thread?!
 

mac

janitor
Are we all just fooling ourselves though? I've only watched Derren Brown about once as I prefer just sleight of hand type magic tricks, but I read a TV review as he was on the box the other night. The reviewer said much depends on his absolute self-belief. He can subliminally plant words and numbers in people's subconscious. "He can't know for certain that it's going to work, but his confidence and charisma don't falter and it pays off". Apparently he made an atheist have a religious experience, and persuaded a woman she was dead by looking at her body in a car crash. He says he executes his psychological illusions to make a wider philosophical point, such as exposing charlatan psychics or challenging religious claims. Am I talking to myself on this thread?!

On the last point, Ruby - yes!
 

Ruby

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This is an interesting experience from a parapsychology course I took online in June. The guy's father had died earlier in the day, and he had gone to bed. He had been told of the death. He heard his father call his name. Meanwhile, his girlfriend was working late and had gone to the fridge to get a bottle of water. In the reflective metal fridge door she saw the father leave the bedroom and walk out of the flat!
 

Ruby

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A strange thing happened today. I got up early and sat in the living room with a book, when I noticed something move outside the window in the garden, at the corner of my vision. When I turned to look I clearly saw a bright, thin upright shape move quickly behind our dining room, at right angles to where I was sitting. I doubt there's any connection to what happened later today, yet I can't quite dismiss the notion. We had a call to say my mother-in-law is dangerously ill in her care home, having suddenly become ill with pneumonia and sepsis and have been granted an end-of-life visit. So a sad end to the day, although she had a happy and healthy life and lived until her mid-eighties.
 
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