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Why the after life probably isn't true as far as I can tell.

Discussion in 'General Afterlife Discussions' started by Club Tropicana, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Hello Elba! Actually, science is NOT objective as it is now practiced in the mainstream. Instead it is, as you point out, "physical." And since it is becoming increasingly clear even to physicists that their core dogma of materialism is bogus, the fact that they cling to this dogma and most of them refuse to look at any evidence that contradicts their theories is pretty much the opposite of objective, don't you think?
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  2. mac

    mac Staff Member

    science is objective - people may not be :D
  3. kim

    kim Active Member

    Many "Christians" go along with what science has taught humanity about reality and then want to discredit any scientific finding that discredits the Bible? Isn't that a twisted way to rationalize life?
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  4. Widdershins3

    Widdershins3 Active Member

    Most of the people I know in Real Life are what I call "Scientism Fundies." While believing that they are strictly rational (unlike we deluded mystics), in reality they've made a religion of Science. And, like a fundamentalist of any religion, they've narrowed their intake of information severely and rigidly, to the point where any questioning of their closely-held tenets is objected to quite violently.

    The result is the opposite of what real science is--an unbiased inquiry into our world. Instead, it's a chosen mental stance that must be defended at all costs against the barbarians who would storm its made-up, securely locked gates. As Roberta says, science in our time is not objective. In fact, for a new way of thinking to get a fair hearing, the Old Guard must die off first. Literally, in some cases.

    I find it really interesting that when a new discovery does sneak in and cast serious doubt upon one of their shibboleths, most claim to have "always known that"...which makes me roll my eyes so hard I swear I glimpse my brain;)
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  5. mac

    mac Staff Member

    Science used in a scientific way is objective albeit limited by what's known and not known in any particular science. What may not be objective are the individuals who apply themselves to the task - fallible humans!
  6. kim

    kim Active Member

    Conscious vibrations create this earth. It is noted specifically in the Bible, when people of that era called Consciousness 'God', that a special kind of conscious vibe, or breath to the people of that era, was in mankind. Humans were created in chapter 1 and then in chapter 2 Consciousness was introduced into humanity. If we know that conscious vibrations create this world, and those conscious vibes are in us, what do we think creates our life? Man and woman are no different to eternal Consciousness, but here on earth we feel there is, in order to have different experiences in different incarnations to aid our spiritually maturity.
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2018
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  7. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    This is all so true - thanks for saying it! It's frustrating and even unbelievable, but the fundamentalist scientism freaks are even worse that the fundamentalist Christians in the extent to which they can deny reality in favor of desperately preserving their false belief system. And - yes - as the truth inevitably does dawn and they can no longer deny it, they are going to swear that they knew it all along. Oy.
  8. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

  9. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Judgment is what eventually comes of half a century of patiently watching mainstream scientists altogether stonewall the truth as a united front, and thereby cause so much pain on earth that whatever good they might be doing at this point is altogether obliterated by it. For a long time I was confident that the scientific gatekeepers could not possibly be so venal, especially when some of their own leading lights - like Planck, Einstein, Tesla, and others - had independently discovered the basics of a genuine post-materialist science. But to this day they refuse to allow the afterlife evidence to be studied by any physicist who wants a career, and thereby they not only halted the advance of new scientific discoveries more than a century ago but they also are prolonging horrendous suffering over all the earth. I was kindly enough to call them just "freaks." I could with justification have used harsher words not printable.
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  10. Storybud68

    Storybud68 Active Member

    club Tropicana,there must be literally millions and millions of accounts of ghosts ,near death experiences.death bed visions,evp recordings,etct,it would only take one to be true to prove there is an afterlife,now what are the odds on that?

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