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Why spirit manifestation seems so rare

Discussion in 'General Afterlife Discussions' started by Matty Mo, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. I decided to open up a new thread on something that was touched upon in the Sam Parnia thread. I've placed a few quotes from that thread which led me to create this thread to get everyone's thoughts.

    I've contemplated this a lot myself. Ive read, or heard testimonies from many people, that claimed to see either passed loved ones or other seemingly solid spirits in front of them. A skeptic would simply write these experiences off as a trick of the brain but some of them are so phenomenal i.e. ravensgate's example, I'm not putting that much stock in the power of our brains to produce these kinds of illusions.

    With that, it seems like when people do tend to see more solid spirits, so to speak, it almost entirely happens to be either by themselves or in small groups. One of the biggest arguments against spirit phenomenon is that there has never been any valid ghost videos or photography taken. Now this is completely subjective as there are many such examples but of course it's all relevant to what an individual will accept as valid. There have also been so many faked photos/videos that many have a hard time believing in any valid visual media as evidence.

    So why is it that we haven't been able to capture many concrete visual spirits? I understand the concept of spiritual vibration so they can slow their vibrations down enough to be seen by the human eye but not so much with things like cameras? Keep in mind that this inquiry is coming from someone who used to love watching shows like Ghost Hunters but I don't bother with them anymore because I just don't trust any television producer to create something without some sort of trickery.

    Just a curious phenomenon that I can't quite grasp. Anyone have any insight or thoughts on this?
  2. When we play a game, we expect a challenge.

    With Lovingkindness (metta),
    vic's myth
  3. It is my understanding that it takes a great deal of energy for a spirit to manifest itself in a physical form. And, in some ways I believe it can make the grieving process either worse or better, depending on the circumstances. Maybe some spirits are afraid of manifesting this way because it could possibly hinder the surviving loved one's spiritual growth. In some cases a person who doesn't believe in an afterlife may question such a vision, and may make them think they are "seeing things." To me there are so many different variables about why this doesn't occur more frequently but if I were to summarize why it would depend on: if they have the energy to manifest, whether or not the living loved one would believe/not question what they saw and take it as a gift, rather than thinking their mind was playing tricks on them. I have seen things that logically have made no sense to me(like objects moving by themselves) but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It just means my mind can't quite makes sense of it-as it relates to the physical world.
  4. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    Assuming for the moment that there is an afterlife, and that we go there when we die, then while I agree with you that if a given soul came back to visit a loved one it would in some cases help and in some cases hinder, I think that it would most often help.

    Even if i'm wrong about that, it seems that we can agree that it would help in at least some cases. I KNOW that it would help in my case, because without it there will be no "spiritual growth" on my part nor anything else (no life, no joy, no desire to live, no passion, nothing). Also, I know that my husband knows this about me (if he didn't in life -- though I know he did -- certainly he would now, if he exists in an afterlife). Given that, why has he not appeared to me? He must know that seeing him, talking with him, finding out that he still exists, that he is ok and is still himself, and that we will be together again, would be the only thing that would make me happy. Would I then want to live? No, that will never happen. But seeing and speaking with him, and thus knowing that he is ok and that we will be together again, would make the rest of this miserable life slightly more bearable, and might make me slightly less likely to kill myself.

    The fact that he has not appeared to me, despite all that, and knowing how very much he loves me and has always loved me, makes me worry very much that there is no afterlife, no continued existence, and that those who believe that there is are just deluding themselves. I don't know that to be the case, and I certainly don't want it to be, but I worry that it might be.
  5. Bluebird, I dont think spirits have the ability to talk the way we talk, though I think they can communicate through electronics. I don't believe the fact that you haven't seen your husband means he doesn't still exist. He could have appeared to you in a dream(it is much easier for them to communicate this way) and I don't believe it is impossible for you either. Maybe when you visit the medium she can help you think of effective ways of communicating with him. Although I know it will be awhile before you will see her. Meanwhile I know you said it is hard for you to meditate but meditation is a good way to open a door to all kinds of spiritual experiences. Don't "try" to meditate. Just sit still for a few minutes, and let your body relax. Listen to meditation or soothing music if you want. When I meditate I think any thoughts I want, even things people would deem impossible. I once meditated about being on a purple planet! It was very soothing. I don't dispel any thoughts while I meditate but I let unpleasant thoughts go by and I let my self think very pleasant thoughts about anything I want. It raises my vibration. And when you raise your vibration, you make it more likely for communication to happen. Killing yourself will solve nothing, please trust me on that.
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2014

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