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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Waller, Aug 9, 2014.

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  1. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    The fundamental disagreement we have, Roberta, is that I know this 'reality' is nothing more than a dream, a dream we are having from within our True Core Self, our Spirit. This dream from Spirit is purposeful as was David's life was to David's pre-planned life here. IOW, there is no such thing as a wasted life-dream-opportunity regardless of how that life/opportunity is regarded by you, I or others. Within that context, he obtained whatever spiritual growth (experience or awareness) albeit it may have been less than, or more than, pre-planned.

    This means, additionally, that those who wish to believe that there is impossible to ascertain whether there was growth or not, I find this to be a moot point. The one of many constant absolutes of the universe is that we are continually expanding, it cannot be stopped, regardless, just as we cannot cease to exist. Nonexistence, by definition, does not exist so we are locked in eternally into existing (survival of consciousness). We simply are unable to idle in place, so to speak.
     
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  2. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    Following on the above, and, again, one of the core points of this thread, we are at the threshold of expanding our territories not into an outside world as we have done in the last few thousand years until we run out of space or conceding that outer space will largely remain beyond our grasp because of physical limitations. This is the message of the ET community, don't go looking for us, we will come when you are ready. To become prepared, dive deep within, throw out the old paradigms, embrace the changes, find and use the new toolsets for instance...

    Lucid dreaming is one of the toolsets which will allow our species to penetrate the heart of consciousness and liberate ourselves from religious blind judgments and allow us to take a more detached, responsible and illuminated position. MOF, several of the ET channeled entities will tell you that they began to dream lucidly AND STAYED THERE.

    That acknowledging the dream state, when physically asleep or awake, is where awareness lies, expansion, acceleration and, O' Lord I dislike this term, ascension.

    TP: OBE vs LD vs NDE; importance of dreaming vs sleep; best veridical evidence and first stage NDEs; "Dream a Little Dream"...For Me" :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T5ZLdD7Pkw
     
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  3. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    I have received a fair few super-criticisms for upholding channeling as a legitimate art. To sum, I am not always convinced by channeling and found that a fair number of channelers seem to "channel" their own confabulation. The authenticity often becomes clear to me when getting to a certain stage of the work after making the inner connection to the author. I still think attaining full lucidity during OBEs is the best way to tap into areas of consciousness yourself, first-hand, and everything that is said, my own work included, should be tested via experience.

    I have noticed when new ideas surface, such as the multiverse etc, a number of ideas are quickly attached to it which have no basis in experiential reality. A number of claims made in this manner I tried to test via OBEs but failed to find conformation of what was claimed. Fantasy has its own level of reality based on imagination, but we shall see.
     
  4. Nirvana

    Nirvana Member

    Waller, are you the one that said existence isn't real until about the higher parts of the 5th dimension?

    Also, how come I feel just as unconnected to the spirit realm in lucid dreams, as I do in waking life?
     
  5. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    Radio out there special – alien souls on earth

    Mary Rodwell interviewed by Barry Eaton. Mary makes her well researched case regarding ET and their arrival as 'Indigos", 'Starseeds', etc. (pick your moniker) derived from her practice as http://members.iinet.net.au/~starline/. Mary is a Professional counselor, hypnotherapist, abductee researcher and metaphysician.

    To wit: "...showing how ET encounters is connected to past life recall and in-between lives as well as ancient civilizations and where we are heading as a species...“I believe we are trying to explore a MULITVERSE through the eye of a needle."

    Another link http://www.afterlifeexplorers.com.au/speaker/maryrodwell/

    Link to podcast http://radiooutthere.com/blog/2016/01/15/radiooutthere-special-alien-souls-on-earth/
     
  6. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    I don't believe that I did.

    Lucid dreaming is dimensional travel that is under your complete control. The dimension that you visit must be one that is constructed by your own consciousness vs. dimensions which are created by the results of the collective consciousness of the beings inhabiting those domains. Think of it this way. LD is your home, (the dream state) OBE is China :)

    If you truly have the intent to visit 'spiritual realms', then do it. Or your dreams are not lucid. LD and OBE overlap and unless you are well invested in having them, understanding them and investigating LD and OBE, it is nigh impossible to tell one from the other.

    As to you feeling of being disconnected to the spirt realms in 'waking life', either one of two things is happening (oversimplyfying) 1) you are living a life that was planned in advance that you would experience this disconnection or 2) it's your fault. It's your fault because you have not examined what belief system you have been indoctrinated with, have bought into, and what is the root cause of your belief that you are disconnected. This is most often a fear and most often it is a fear of the unknown.

    Because you are not disconnected, not in the least. As always, it's your choice regardless.
     
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  7. tradingdavid

    tradingdavid New Member

    I need to work on my control more. Last night I dreamt I was laying in bed eating a reese's peanut butter cup. I figured out I must be dreaming since I have been watching the sweets and haven't bought a peanut butter cup lately.
    So I finished the peanut butter cup and it was awesome I could feel the peanut butter and chocolate. First time to feel sensations like that.
    I had sample some sort of apple danish thing earlier but not nearly as sensory.
    If I work on it just think of the possibilities. Baklava and maybe some spiritual growth!
     
  8. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    Nirvana, maybe you'll find this helpful. I often play this Bashar clip for a new discussion group, it gets high marks and touches on several of your issues. I don't reveal that Bashar is an ET collective being channeled via direct voice from Darryl Anka, I leave that part until the day is over. :)

    Bashar - Life, Death and More
    Play or download as you desire.
     
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  9. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

  10. Nirvana

    Nirvana Member

    Will do, Waller. Thank you.
     
  11. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    Not Everything 'Alien' Is ET

    There has been much abuzz in the ET community about the extensive and extended efforts by those who have global agendas. Call them what you will - Illuminati, Powers That Be - their hold on us is entirely of our doing. Fear that drives us, fear of the unknown, fear of being unworthy...we all too often give over control in order to be protected, feel safe, all part of the illusion.

    The alien deception? Is there an imminent threat of an ‘alien attack?’ Let’s ask top Nazi-turned-NASA rocket scientist, the late Wernher Von Braun, inventor of the V2 rocket and true all-around pioneer of aerospace engineering as we know it. Dr. Carol Rosin, a former leading aerospace executive and space & missile defense consultant with whom Von Braun became good friends late in his life, has testified before Congress that over the 4 years she knew him, up until his deathbed in 1977, Wernher had repeatedly warned that once all other methods of control and manipulation through fear, or ‘threat cards,’ have been played by the powers that be, (communism, then terrorism, then ‘crazy’ third world leaders, then asteroids,) “the alien card is the final card". We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie.” Some of her key testimony can be viewed here...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALLUuvsVkM

    Not Everything Alien Is ET

    Synchronicity is a onederful thing.
     
  12. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    When ET Speaks, Analogies Flow

    Now is a good time to place on the thread, again, a disclaimer of sorts. It has been written...

    http://afterlifeforums.com/showthre...and-Mikey-please&p=39916&viewfull=1#post39916 ,,,

    ,,,and this statement by janef is correct.

    ET speaks of the physics of the spirit world and of their explored multiverses in analogies only. Why? Like she said, it is outside the comprehension of the human mind. Any human mind. We entered into our incarnations with these presupposed limitations that, at the present, and for a foreseeable future, there will be no ability to access, much less comprehend, the complexities of Source. Heck, even All That Is doesn't know everything about All That Is!

    Want to test this? Ask anyone what the 5 laws (absolutes) of the Universe are. I have mentioned this more than a several times and no one has ever asked about them. I suspect that very, very few do and if you don't know these absolutes, how on Earth can you begin to understand the nature of the Oneverse much less its so-called physics. :rolleyes:

    Time will change this lack of capability. New generations (a new species) of thinkers, open-minded and Higher Mind enlightened are among us. When will we see the change?

    At or around 2050, we (humans) will have moved to a higher (in number and vibration) density almost to quasi-physicality. Our first extraorbital communication (yes, we will be the next species of First Contact Specialists) and Barnard's Star awaits. Barnard's Star is at a place in their history very similar to our Renaissance period. In short, Star Trek becomes a reality by 2050 and in the next 100 years or so, we won't need to hitch a ride on an ET craft to revisit Barnard's Star.

    We will become their UFOs.

    Yet, at the present, the complex, but not complicated. physics of the Universe is still outside our grasp.
    [h=2][/h]
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  13. janef

    janef Moderator

    So get ready to board the train..... ;)
     
  14. janef

    janef Moderator

    This is all quite amazing. Thanks.
     
  15. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    No Fields, No Forces Just Resonance Identification

    Yes! :D

    We are limited to our language and, at the present, still limited by an inability to think and act holistically about the nature of Nature. Ever spend anytime with sacred geometry? Graphic graphs, swirling swirls, vexing vortices but, in the end, does anyone understand the geometric relationships in a holistic manner? I haven't found anyone. It is the reason why the word 'mystery' is tied tightly to sacred geometry.

    Ask your (plural) favorite spiritual or universal physics teacher if they dig on this?

    Theoretical Physics

    There is a reason it is called "theoretical", mathematical models and abstractions of physical objects and systems to rationalize, explain and predict natural phenomena. To wit, we don't understand the underpinnings and this is why ET wastes no time in attempting to explain the physics of the Universe except within analogy.

    What they comprehend is not theory.

    There was a time in our not-so-ancient past where we had a much better grasp of resonance, vibration, energy displacement, frequency manipulation, but it was purposefully lost (Alexandrian libraries, objects hidden under the Sphinx, the sarcophagus in the Great Pyramid's chamber as a place to enhance the OBE, etc.) All lost to our present evolution i.e. to be able to use these knowledges without completely actually understanding them.

    Our time is coming. Again.
     
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  16. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    Dead cat? Alive cat? Both?

    There has been a lot of yik-yak in this thread about parallel universes, worlds and lives. Many believe this to be theoretical or esoteric or New Age flim-flam but what happens when we examine the concept of observation creates reality?

    You come away with one of two conclusions. Choose the one that best fits your physical [ir]reality. That is either 1) quantanmness as we understand it through the wave function is garbage or 2) there must exist parallelness.

    Dead cat? Alive cat? Both?

    What Is the Wave Function?
    3min clip
     
  17. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    Commentary: We are not alone in the universe

    http://victorzammit.com/February5th2016/

    Zammit: "I'm sure that we all come across skeptical articles denying the possibility of the existence of UFOs. But we have to keep reminding people that all the evidence is devastatingly impressive. First there are the new discoveries about the unimaginably huge size of the universe (see video below).

    Second is the evidence that has emerged from The Disclosure Project in which over 500 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses have testified to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret (see witness testimony).

    One of the big dangers now is that vested interests [​IMG]will try to convince us that ETs are hostile and we will be deluged with 'alien invasion' movies and demands for spending on space weapons. Prof. Stephen Hawking has even joined the chorus: 'they (UFO's aliens) are out to get you'. That is a lot of absolute nonsense without a shred of evidence. This has huge consequences for all of us. Let is keep an open mind but not ignore the blatant evidence that we may already have had visitors to our planet who in their own way are trying to contact us - even to help us."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c3xuYs75IU

    ;)
     
  18. janef

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  19. Waller

    Waller Senior Member

    Signs - The Movie - Which Are You?

    FAMILY ROOM - MIDNIGHT

    The family room lights are off now. The TV is still on. The SOUND IS MUTED. There are a couple glasses of Bo's water on
    the television now.

    The fourteen lights are still hovering on the screen. Morgan is asleep on Graham's lap. Bo is asleep on Merrill's
    shoulder.

    MERRILL (Joaqin Phoenix)
    (whispers)
    Some people are probably thinking this is the end of the world.

    Graham turns his sleepy eyes away from the screen to Merrill.

    GRAHAM (Mel Gibson)
    (whispers)
    That's true.

    Merrill looks his brother in the eyes.

    MERRILL
    (whispers)
    Do you think it's a possibility?

    GRAHAM
    (whispers)
    Yes.

    MERRILL
    (whispers)
    How can you say that?

    GRAHAM
    (whispers)
    That wasn't the answer you wanted?

    MERRILL
    (whispers)
    Can you at least pretend to be like you used to be? Give me some
    comfort?

    GRAHAM
    (whispers)
    ... There are all different ways
    you can tell that there's someone
    really there watching out for us.
    You see signs. Sometimes they're
    little ones. You think of someone.
    The phone rings. They're on the
    phone... Sometimes they're big,
    like those fourteen lights hovering over
    Mexico City.
    (beat)
    Sure, there are a lot of people
    watching these lights who think this could
    be a bad thing. But there are a
    lot of people watching this, who
    think it's a miracle. A sign. It's all in how
    you look at things Merrill.
    (beat)
    What you have to decide is what
    kind of person you are? Are you
    the type who believes in miracles
    and looks for signs or are you the
    kind who believes, things just
    happen by chance?

    MERRILL
    (whispers)
    So which type are you?


    As our reality changes before our very eyes, there will be two kinds of people. Those who see the signs, embrace them, see hope in them. The second type are the ones who are 50-50. It could be bad, it could be good regardless, deep down, they are scared and fearful. They believe they have no control, they are on their own.

    Are you hopeful? What kind of person are you? Just lucky? Is it possible that there are no coincidences?
     
  20. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    This is profound, dear Waller. As for myself, I know without any doubt that we are perfectly safe in everlasting arms. So, bring it on. Bring it all on!
     
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