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What do you consider valid ADC?

Discussion in 'After-Death Communication' started by Mark Zerafa, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    First, we trust what these higher level beings tell us because ALL OF THEM SAY THE SAME THING.

    Second, for all we know these beings are working behind the scenes on the other religions' issues as well.

    And third, higher beings do not cause us harm. This earth life is nothing more than a bad afternoon in a spiritual gym, and we CHOOSE the rough machines that we use (death of a child; major illness; etc.) so we can better grow spiritually. I don't think anyone here ever has said that "the evils of this world" are inflicted by higher beings!
  2. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Dear Enby, you are earnestly talking as if this earthly reality is real, and as if it objectively matters. From that perspective, I would have to agree with you! But in fact, this earthly reality is not real. When you understand that, you see a lot of things differently....
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  3. milahanna

    milahanna Member

    Roberta, if that's the case then why is this the first I've heard of it? I stated above the most common idea floating around afterlife circles and that's that we are at a time of high vibrations.

    There's one lesson that I've learned in my life here on Earth and that's that crowd mentality does not mean it's truth. Even if they were all stating this warning, I would still have to question them. We have no way of knowing who these higher beings are.

    Have you lost a child? I would be very careful saying that someone chose that unless you have lived through such a loss. I have seen the belief that beings volunteer through contracts to cause harm for our growth many times. Regardless, it doesn't matter because if we choose to loose a child, get raped or have an illness, then in a sense we are bringing the pain and fear into this world by creating those experiences to occur. Essentially we are being told to fight the very thing we chose to experience. Makes no sense
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  4. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Goldie, consciousness is a form of energy. All energy vibrates. The range of consciousness vibration is from the lowest, which is fear, hatred, grief, etc. - the slowest consciousness vibration - to the highest, which is perfect love - the most rapid consciousness vibration. Does this help?

    And as for the rest, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Enjoy believing whatever you like!
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  5. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    I have no idea what "afterlife circles" may be saying, but if it's not the product of original research then it's groupthink and I would be inclined not to trust it.

    And, with respect, I really don't think that the great eternal truths that are now being revealed to those who open-mindedly seek them are required to make sense to someone who seems to be inherently inclined to believe or disbelieve whatever she reads according to her own idiosyncratic belief system. Sorry, but I don't have the time to continue this unproductive back-and-forth. To anyone else reading this thread, I stand by all that I have said above.
  6. Unexpected

    Unexpected Guest

    Thanks for sharing these! I finally found some time to start listening to them and, I agree with Roberta, they are extraordinary!
  7. milahanna

    milahanna Member

    That's a bit disrespectful Roberta. I've been seeking only the truth for many years. I just take into account that people lie and so do spirits. We're blindly following these so call higher beings with absolutely no real evidence that they are who they say they are. All I've asked is how do you know they are who they say are and you start accusing me of believing what I want to believe.

    Planned lives doesn't make sense and I'm only asking for a better understanding. I have never claimed that it was false but that it doesn't sound right. To me, it looks as a way to make us feel like gods. We want to believe that we govern our lives. Where is the Source/God in any of this? I won't blindly follow something without thinking it through. I would hope that most others would do the same and that it would be encouraged by those claiming to be seeking truth as well.
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  8. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Then I guess we're even, since I also feel severely disrespected by you. Repeatedly you say things that are insulting to someone who has been a careful and skeptical researcher in this field for the past fifty years; in fact, you often talk like an actual debunker, which is the most dishonorable breed of all. "We're blindly following these so call higher beings with absolutely no real evidence that they are who they say they are" is the exact equivalent of calling me and every other researcher I respect a lazy and clueless fool, for heaven's sake! That's what you assume that we are doing, just accepting what the dead say without seeking "real evidence that they are who they say they are"? We just fell off the turnip truck yesterday, and there is no way that Milahanna is going to trust us! "I won't blindly follow something without thinking it through" is another beaut from you. So that is what you believe that I've been doing for my entire life? If you really want "a better understanding," please back up that assertion by give us a rough estimate of how many books on this subject you have read and how many researchers you have consulted. Is that too much to ask of someone who has been "seeking only the truth for many years," while apparently (to my own surprise) I have not also been seeking only the truth but I have clumsily been willing to accept falsehoods? I have put a lot of what I've learned into books that each contain an annotated seventy-odd-book bibliography of some of the best books that I have read in this field and can recommend to seekers. Where is your list, ma'am?

    "Planned lives doesn't make sense and I'm only asking for a better understanding" sums up perfectly what you actually are doing! Can't you see that? You already know what you are willing to believe, and you are challenging me to overcome your firmly held beliefs. I'm sorry, but I have played that game before with debunkers and I know that once minds are made up any attempt to penetrate them with information is a fool's errand.

    Again, I am sorry to be so blunt. I try very hard to be graceful in all circumstances, but you have called me disrespectful on my forum so it seems important that anyone reading this thread understands why I have reacted to you this way. For open-minded folks who respect my work and would like me to share it with them, I will spend hours! I get so many questions now through my website that sometimes answering them all properly takes most of my day as I write with love what are sometimes very long responses. All I ask is that those asking me questions not insult my intelligence. I don't consider this to be an unreasonable request.
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  9. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    Houdini did some good work but sadly, also stooped to this. Nonetheless, he's usually taken as gold standard fact.
  10. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    Victor Zammit seems to think David Thompson's mp3's are about as good as it gets these days. Not, sadly, so good as the old Flint archives, which are an invaluable resource.
  11. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    One never knows; but I think some plan is always afoot. Helen Schucman received information to the effect that a "celestial speedup" had been undertaken which involved bringing back souls early to try to prevent things from going to the bow-wows. I leave it to other people to guess how well it succeeded.
  12. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    I have no idea what, if anything, is vibrating but have clear ideas about higher and lower. When my wife was dying, I meditated by her bedside and it felt as if my arms were literally being lifted up, into an area of higher spirituality. I sensed entities--one apparently her mother, since she tried to communicate through me--and they seemed to be coming down from a higher level. They were ordinary people, but after death it seemed they had progressed to a higher "vibration".
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  13. Zac

    Zac Member

    I've only seen these mp3's from Thompson with newest from 2007. And the circle of the silver cord website has been down for a long time. Do you know of any other Thompson recordings?

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  14. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    I've listened to newer ones on silver cord, IIRC.
  15. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    It is still underway. And, according to the elevated beings in charge, it is on track to succeed according to their terms.
  16. jimrich

    jimrich Active Member

    Visit a few mediums!
  17. milahanna

    milahanna Member

    Dishonorable breed..wow Roberta you truly are something. Talk about a self righteous remark. You're trying to demean me and it won't work. I see right through your fake "loving" heart clearly now more than ever. That remark says it all. Reminds me of religious leaders and how they reacted when those of us who used our minds wouldn't just cowardly follow what they said. I researched their claims and found the lies. I think things through. I'm not going to just take someone's word just because they claim years of research. I have done my own research, have had my own experiences and my conclusions are different. I have no way of truly knowing that your words are honest and true. Many claim the same years of research and have very different views than you. Why is that? How does one know that your research wasn't heavily biased? It definitely wasn't thorough as I have seen many resources shared here that you are unfamiliar with. It appears as you are accepting only what you want and trying to pull others into the same mentality/circle. I question your intentions now that I see your reaction to those who question what you preach.

    Those who truly seek the truth, look at every angle with a critical mind. They don't bury their head in the sand and follow those who claim authority on the subject matter.

    I'll be honest, I stopped reading what you said when you labeled me as a dishonorable breed. Not because it upset me because I know better, but because it revealed everything that I needed to know about your heart.
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2017
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  18. Bill Z

    Bill Z Active Member

    I just wanted to point this out.
    A lot of what's posted on this and similar sites is very emotionally charged. How can it not be? Many of us who post are navigating the most horrible experiences a human can experience.
    Our experiences are different depending who we are, who our transitioned people are, etc. Some things posted may resonate others may not.

    Wouldn't it be better to stay with what resonates and step back from what doesn't and just respect each others views, beliefs and experiences?
    Peace and I am thankful for all of the posts here.
  19. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator


    Goldie, it is very important that you obey the rules of this forum. You are not an authority either, dear, and you do not have the right to try to persuade people to your own line of thinking by insulting and humiliating others. Do not do it again on this website. ALF exists and is maintained purely to give information to open-minded seekers; you are free to reject that information, as is every reader here, but you do not have the right to interfere with our core purpose.
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  20. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Goldie, when people respectfully disagree with me, I also respectfully disagree with them. No one in the known universe disagrees with me more completely than does our dear Bluebird, but she is a highly valued member here because she respects all other members (including me) and she also respects the fact that this is my website. By very strong contrast, when you disagree with me you badger and insult me. What makes you think that you have the right to come here and do that to ANYONE? Is that seriously how you treat people in your normal life?

    A primary purpose of this forums is to provide information for open-minded seekers. The truth is the truth! It isn't arrived at by majority vote, nor by who can shout the loudest, and if we were to allow what we know to be erroneous information based in emotion to go unchallenged we would be destroying our central focus on the objective truth. I have spent fifty years doing this research, and I have found uniformly that those in the afterlife ARE happy. I have given the likely reasons why their viewpoint is so different from our own in other posts, and I don't have time now to say it all here again, but it is the fact that Mac and I have to be so careful to keep this garden clear of facts-free weeds that makes us crack down so strongly on those who plant them.

    Goldie, read Bluebird's posts where she is disagreeing with me, and mine when I am disagreeing with her. For your own sake, try to learn patience, kindness, and respect for others! If you can do that, we will be delighted to have you stay.

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