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Discussion in 'General Afterlife Discussions' started by Bill Z, May 12, 2018.

  1. bluebird

    bluebird Regular Contributor

    I ABSOLUTELY agree, 100%.
  2. Maria

    Maria Member

    Thank you Mac and Bluebird for your replies. Since my recent bereavement I often feel irate about it all, and question the big mysterious plan. Perhaps I am viewing the situation from a mortal perspective at present, but when I transition, I hope I can join any ongoing campaigns over there, that have a mission to make communication easier between the deceased and grieving incarnates.
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  3. bluebird

    bluebird Regular Contributor

    You are very welcome, Maria.
  4. Bill Z

    Bill Z Well-Known Member

    Hope this brings a little hope and maybe a little less sadness and grief. I feel Her sweet precious breath and loving tender touch every day but I remain in this physical shell so I weep every day but She is beyond me, She tries to tell me and connect but on my end the I continue to struggle to receive.

    Do not stand at my grave and weep
    I am not there; I do not sleep.
    I am a thousand winds that blow,
    I am the diamond glints on snow,
    I am the sun on ripened grain,
    I am the gentle autumn rain.
    When you awaken in the morning's hush,
    I am the swift uplifting rush
    Of quiet birds in circled flight.
    I am the soft stars that shine at night.
    Do not stand at my grave and cry,
    I am not there; I did not die.
    mary elizabeth frye - 1932
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  5. mac

    mac Staff Member

    I sometimes wonder if we seekers of understanding about life, death and beyond are looked on as a small group of odd-bods struggling to do something there's really no need to do while everyone else is getting on with their lives. Folk who believe a load of twaddle, crackpots who sit and hold hands in the dark led by an odd-looking woman who speaks in a funny voice asking "Is anybody there?" and then pretends to be in contacts with the spirits.....

    I wonder, also, if 'on the other side' our spirit counterparts, individuals trying to reach through the veil to us, are seen similarly? A group of odd-bods struggling to do something there's really no need to do while everyone else is getting on with their lives in spirit.
    Last edited: May 16, 2018
  6. Maria

    Maria Member


    No doubt afterlife sceptics would deem consulting with a medium or any form of communication with the dead, to be both eccentric and futile. For those who suffer a bereavement however, (and hitherto had at least an agnostic belief in life after death), it is only natural that they may resort in desperation to mediums with the hope that they can contact their loved ones. After all, if someone just goes on holiday or emigrates to Australia, those left behind eagerly await news of their safe arrival or information regarding their activities in a foreign country. Death is no different yet very different. Someone you care for has left your environment and travelled to an unknown land, but there is no return from this excursion, or the receipt of post cards and telephone calls. Having read The Blue Island by WT Stead, it seems that upon arrival at their otherworld destination, spirits are equally eager to make contact with grieving relatives, and there are facilities in place to assist the newcomers with this. It is unlikely that spirits who witness discarnates attempting to communicate with mortals, would find this strange, (unlike the reversed situation), as they have holistic knowledge and experience. All I can say is roll on that wonderful day when the soul phone is finally invented, as communication between both worlds will become an accepted normality.
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  7. mac

    mac Staff Member

    Agreed but maybe others too....

    Such situations were never part of the suggestions I made earlier. And please don't forget that after 30 odd years at this stuff my persuasion hasn't wavered. ;)

    The differences between the two are highly significant. Death is not as simple as a journey to even a far-distant land hence our emotions are somewhat different.

    Naturally our spirit loved ones will want to welcome us ONCE they know we've arrived. But before then, and with the enhanced awareness/knowledge enjoyed by discarnates, perhaps they know there's little to be gained by trying to make contact any earlier. And maybe much to be lost....

    Well I didn't say 'strange'. I just said struggling when there's no need.

    That wonderful day IF a soul phone is ever perfected.... ;) I remain unpersuaded although I do accept that alternative ways of communication may become available. Perhaps not in my present lifetime though.
    Last edited: May 16, 2018
  8. bluebird

    bluebird Regular Contributor

    What do you think might be lost if this sort of contact is made?
  9. mac

    mac Staff Member

    What might be lost is/are the planned experience(s) of the remaining life for the one still incarnate.
  10. bluebird

    bluebird Regular Contributor

    Ok, I see what you mean. I don't agree, but I do thank you for clarifying your point. ;)

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