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Struggles- pre planned or am I off track?

Discussion in 'Spiritual Growth & Development' started by Sarah, May 9, 2017.

  1. Sarah

    Sarah New Member

    How do I know if my life is as it should be? If we set up our life and our struggles in advance to learn a lesson from them, then I want to do that... but how do I know if it is a pre planned lesson or if my current struggle is not pre planned and I should make a radical change quick?

    I read a recent thread that mentioned a movie plot of a Dr who had been sent to a "lower level"upon his death because his lifestyle (over eating) contributed to his early death --despite him saving many people over his lifetime..

    I want to live a life of love and happiness as best as I can here- but this idea scares me a bit to think that I might be messing up something I have pre-planned...

    I am very new to this WHOLE concept... any thoughts would be appreciated - xoxo
  2. mac

    mac regular contributor Staff Member

    Years ago when I was new to all this 'stuff' I asked a similar question of a medium I respected. I, too, wanted to go down the 'right' path for my life and I explained my thinking to him as best I could. His reply to me was that he just got on with his regular day-to-day life without giving any thought to whether he was doing 'what he was supposed to do'.

    I concluded what was good enough for a working medium was good enough for me too. After that I got on with things without any further concern whether I was doing what I was supposed to be doing.
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  3. Amore

    Amore Active Member

    Very wise words there from mac and Jim!

    Sarah, as far as I understand not everything in life is pre-planned, and what was planned can also change if you want it to. It's not set in stone. Just follow your heart and your gut, don't overthink it. Trust yourself. If you struggle with a situation, leave it, or improve it, or improve yourself. Learn from mistakes, that's why we're here. Like Jim says, it's not necessary to know. Rather, feel your way, one day at a time, and just be yourself.

    Also, not every pre-planned situation or event needs to be something big and major, like marriage or work or some such. Some souls seem to incarnate for smaller and comparatively 'minor' experiences, like holding someone's hand in a crisis.

    As for the over-indulging doctor sent to a 'lower level' - well that was a movie that oversimplified what happens after death. You will not be 'sent' anywhere. It's negative emotions such as anger, hate, regret, guilt, fear, etc that might prevent you from opening yourself to the divine love that is always available. It's often called 'lower level' as if it is something bad, or some form of punishment. I see nothing wrong with it. Nobody gets punished, it's a natural process. People did something in their earthly life and then feel regret or guilt, so naturally their energy is somewhat heavy because of these feelings. But there are teachers there and guides who will help them to understand what happened and let go of these feelings, nobody is left alone.

    I remember in one NDE I once read, the person was shown a human being, an alcoholic who was lying on the street, drunk. It was explained to the person that this soul incarnated to be a drunkard, to teach others compassion.

    It's not all black and white. Some don't come here to learn lessons, they come to teach others. Some just come to enjoy earth life, that's also a possibility.
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  4. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member


    I don't believe that we choose our life and our struggles in advance, at least not for the most part. I think you should do what you think is right in your life, make choices you believe are right, and try to make your life as you want it to be. I think you should try to do as much good and as little harm as possible, to yourself and to other people. I think that's what we should all do. So your wanting to "live a life of love and happiness" as best as you can is the right way to go, in my opinion.

    I do not believe in "lower levels" of an afterlife, but if there is such a thing then the idea that a person would be sent to one for overeating even though he had saved many people is just ludicrous to me. What sort of petty god would do that? I don't think the man would do that to himself, either -- it's one mistake as compared to many good things.

    In any case, all anyone here can offer you are opinions; the above are mine. Ultimately each of us, including you, has to decide for ourselves how we want to live.
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  5. mac

    mac regular contributor Staff Member

    Most of us ordinary folk are unlikely to ever know what's planned.....

    Enjoy movies, believe the plot but only for the duration of the play acting. Beyond that exercise caution is my suggestion....

    Go for it! Live your life and enjoy as much as you can! Please try not to become occupied by thoughts about messing up some supposed life-plan about which you know nothing consciously. And if you want to try to understand more about the 'stuff' we old-folk discuss then you have plenty of time to do it. It's not mandatory, though, that you do try to understand.

    I don't know what age you are, and I try not to offer advice routinely, but to younger seekers I always suggest they get on with their incarnate lives and not spend their time agonising about issues of discarnate lives UNLESS they feel inside themselves they just have to do it.
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