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Spiritual Guide?

Discussion in 'Spiritual Growth & Development' started by NaloNie132, Aug 5, 2017.

  1. NaloNie132

    NaloNie132 New Member

    My family has strong lineage of the Navajo tribe, and I recently took a spiritual journey to find my guide. In a dream, instead of one, two guides came to me. A large eagle that switches between white feathers and a black beak and wing tips and blue eyes to a black eagle with a black beak and yellow eyes. The other was a big blue wolf with blue swirls around it, and it had markings on its fur. I didn't know what to say, so I asked if they could return and guide me. The wolf (In a deeper male voice) said "yes". Then I asked they could stay with me tonight, and the wolf curled on the floor and I lay by its side, and the eagle rested on the other side of me. I fell asleep in my dream, then woke up. Why do I have two guides? Is this normal? Is it normal that they did not speak other than that one word?
     
  2. jimrich

    jimrich Established Member

    LOL, why not?
    Are you happy and OK with it?
    Yes.
     
  3. mac

    mac Staff Member

    You have two guides (as far as you know) because that's what you need.

    Is it normal they did not speak more than one word you ask? How do you know how much they actually said to you? How do you know how much you're remembering or failing to remember?

    Be cautious always about dreams is my suggestion. They may be total fabrications or simply an imperfect recall of something that's not intended to be actively remembered; something already registered where it needs to register in your psyche.
     
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  4. Nickname

    Nickname New Member

    A one week ago, my friends and I aroused the spirit of the deceased bodybuilder, Rich Piana. Just decided to get together with the company and went to a medium with a good reputation. Rich said that he does not miss there at all. Communicates with his deceased relatives, deceased friends and sportsmen. In his death, no one blames. He says that his time just left this world. He sends greetings to all and promises to come in a nightmare to those who will spare themselves in the gym. Here is a snippet of our dialogue that I managed to write down:

    -Hello Rich. We are glad that you came with us to contact. What do you do there and where did you end up in heaven or hell?
    -Hello, you've got me here. I'm not in hell or in heaven. There is a place where all the deceased souls gather, and heaven or hell will be revealed to us after the second coming of Jesus and the great judgment. So far, I'm here talking to many of the deceased whom I know.
    -Did you see the devil or demons?
    -Of course. There are a lot of them like angels. Demons are shaggy and with horns, just like they are depicted on the ground. With hoofs. Constantly expressed in bad words. These are very vile spirits.
    -Do you miss the earthly life?
    - Of course I miss you. I would like to come alive even for a moment to say goodbye to everyone. I'm not looking exactly like you used to see me here. There are no more tattoos and huge muscles. I'm as transparent as water.
    At this our conversation was cut off and more Rich did not go out for communication.
     
  5. mac

    mac Staff Member

    A good story for Halloween. :p:D
     
  6. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Wow, this is amazing! Thank you so much for sharing it! Nickname, your friend is in what we think of as a "hollow heaven" - a belief-system place that - he's right - is not the genuine afterlife. I don't think that I ever have seen a communication from someone in his situation, but he describes it so well that it's certain that's where he is! He will be rescued at some point - as will all the others around him - and he will go to the genuine Summerland. He is fine where he is, but he's missing out on a lot!
     
  7. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    Isn't a hollow heaven as much an afterlife as anywhere? Of course it reflects your beliefs, but what doesn't? If you are very epistemically closed, the result is less than optimal. Keep an open mind, folks, even when you are dead!
     
  8. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Keeping an open mind is the single most important bit of advice that we can give to anyone when it comes to the period after death! Those who have not closed their minds all enter the same infinitely tremendous and glorious realms where our families are, our pets are, and we all have endless wonderful things to do. It's playtime! A hollow heaven, on the other hand, is created by the closed minds of its inhabitants. From what we have seen, these are generally religion-based, and they look pretty much as their inhabitants expected them to look, but they decidedly are not our great shared eternal reality. Here are some differences:

    1) The only people there are folks whose prior beliefs closely mirror our own. It is unusual to find any loved ones or family.

    2) They are not part of the post-death welcome process. No life-review, no parties, no parades (yes, many of us are given parades!). No counseling for those who need it. And usually we seem to be unable to perceive our spirit guides and those who come to try to rescue us, which means that we might be stuck there awhile.

    3) They have religious trappings, and those in them talk about religious beliefs. In the genuine greater reality that most of us enter at death - what we commonly call the afterlife - there is no religion to speak of. The certain tell that this fellow is off-track and in a hollow heaven is his talking about heaven, hell, and the second coming.

    4) They are BORING. While our genuine post-death lives are full of wondrous things to do, in hollow heavens there is pretty much nothing to do. This fellow is so bored that he actually misses Earth! By contrast, those who make it to the Summerland don't miss Earth at all. They are thrilled to be home.

    Those who cling to beliefs - even the belief of atheism - and who are too certain about what comes next put themselves at serious risk that their minds will draw them to some hollow heaven. It is temporary, but it's tragic when our genuine afterlife is so beyond-belief wonderful!
     
  9. bluebird

    bluebird Major Contributor

    So that would imply that agnostics are the most likely to end up in the "real" afterlife, as they have no preconceived notions of god or heaven/afterlife, etc. Good.
     
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  10. Ed A.

    Ed A. Active Member

    That's really interesting. I had never heard that before -- the distinction between the normal afterlife experience (Summerland) and these "hollow heavens."

    So, closed-minded vs. open-minded is very important. Open-minded religious people are likely to go through the normal process. Closed-minded religious (or atheist) people are likely to go to a "hollow heaven" or to a hollow wherever-atheists-go.
     

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