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Spirit Worlds

Discussion in 'General Afterlife Discussions' started by Sixthsense, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Sixthesense, there is a lot of evidence that those in the lowest levels can't communicate.
     
  2. Sixthsense

    Sixthsense New Member

    Mac is on my ignore list. All I can say is when was doing card readings, I was sometimes getting images of disfigured people. They still managed to pass on loving messages though. Also, in terms of the lower levels, Satan exists and he communicates with people also.
     
  3. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    You won't, then, know what mac said in response unless someone quotes his piece but that won't stop him responding further.

    Anyone doing what this individual does should take more responsibility for their involvement with others who the individual likes to think he/she is helping. With little apparent understanding of who an individual is linking with, and little apparent understanding about the so-called afterlife, the sensitive might be linking to a discarnate who is not associated in any way with the person for whom a 'reading' is being given. It's an irresponsible approach.

    The last sentence in the quoted piece speaks volumes about the level of spiritual understanding of its author.
     
  4. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Consciousness is the only thing that objectively exists, and consciousness exists in a range of vibrations from lowest (fear and its correlates such as hatred, rage, etc.) to highest (love, which in its pure essence is what we call God, although no one has ever found an anthropomorphic God). Therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE for there to be a powerful negative entity. The nastier an entity is, the weaker it is, to the point where we think that the most negative entities that still have enough power to be independent and sentient are the shadow men, who essentially lurk in the dark and feed on whatever fear they can produce in people. Turn on a light, and they disappear.

    The above statement is true. It is the result of my fifty years of research and many decades of research by a great many other people. Therefore, SATAN AS WE ENVISION SATAN CANNOT EXIST. Not only have researchers never found any evidence of a powerful evil or negative entity, or of a fiery hell, but the physics of reality as we are coming to understand it precludes that possibility.

    Sixthsense, by doing card readings you are effectively flashing a homing beacon to every bit of disembodied scum that exists; and if you are getting disfigured communicators and even one who claims to be Satan then these entities are messing with you. I urge you strongly to take the wisdom in 1JN4, and "Try the spirits to see if they are of God." These folks are not! And if you allow them any further into your life, you may have a lot of trouble ever being rid of them. Meanwhile, I'm sending you a hug!
     
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  5. Sixthsense

    Sixthsense New Member

    I went to psychic/mediumship classes for a long period. Our tutor did not advise us on those contacting. They just came in and I guess there was no way to stop it. As I said the disfigured man passed on a message of love. But I would guess he must be in a difficult spirit world for whatever reason. Roberta is being objective about consciousness, but I believe that we have to think outside the box and accept there is a lot beyond our conscious understanding. Below is a link to an interesting article. It seems like Catholics are saying there is two "hells". For me, this is more in line with what mediums say about the different spirit levels. In my experience of seeing spirits, I can understand the levels in that if you die not knowing much about a certain topic, you still will not know much about it in the afterlife. Also, I have known people who contacted Satan through a ouija board, so for that reason I believe he exists. If anyone wants to test my mediumship abilities I will contact them on skype.

    http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/did-jesus-descend-into-hell.html
     
  6. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I guess there are none so blind as those who will not look.....
     
  7. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    You have known people who believed they contacted satan through a ouija board, and/or people who said they did. That doesn't mean they actually did. It doesn't necessarily mean they didn't either, of course -- personally I don't believe there is any such being as the Judeo-Christian "Satan", but I could be wrong. Either way, there is no proof, so you can't know that they contacted "satan", and it's dangerous to base your belief in the existence of a supposedly evil being on the unsubstantiated hearsay of a couple of people.
     
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  8. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Catholicism is a belief-system; it is not real, and nothing in the religion is based in objective reality (I say this, having been a devout Catholic for decades). There is an outer darkness - a cold and smelly negative area of lower vibration - but there is not even one hell as Christians envision it - a place of fire and eternal punishment - so for certain there are not two hells! And there is no powerful evil entity in opposition to God. PERIOD. I do not doubt for a moment that people have called up evil disembodied critters via a ouija board who called themselves "Satan" and messed with their minds, but the more evil these little nasties are the weaker they are. I have consulted with at least a dozen reputable mediums, and not one of them would credit any of this! Sixthsense, I ask that you NOT promote yourself as a medium on this website.
     
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  9. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I understand why you ask that the member should not promote herself as a medium on your website, Roberta, and my concern is that visitors here could be misled by what she mistakenly writes.

    I find it astonishing that she continues to trot out such nonsense.
     
  10. Widdershins3

    Widdershins3 Active Member

    So sorry--life got super busy and I missed your question. No, the floor was not stone of any kind. It was dark-stained wood and covered by a carpet with an ornate design in deep, saturated colors. IOW it matched the building, room and other furnishings, which were Victorian in style.

    Many people who've had glimpses of afterlife buildings reported in the old Spiritualist literature that public buildings were similar to Classical marble temples, but that individual residences were of all styles and materials--very personal and sometimes quirky. A psychic medium I saw back in the late '60's saw me between lives in a building made entirely of crystal or glass. I was sitting at a table by a window with a man and we could look through the transparent wall and see great vistas of the spiritual world. I've always loved that vision and, now that he's crossed over, I cannot wait to sit and talk with him again. In one of the 2 "previous" lives I remember living, he was present and was my father. The psychic described him very minutely, even though it would be around 5 years until we met this time around.

    My impression is that inspired architects will continue to design buildings on the Other Side and, since all are different individuals, their creations will be diverse.
     
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  11. kim marine

    kim marine Active Member

    Spiritual dimensions are infinite. I experienced some kinds of "other dimensions" when I experienced an NDE and was unconscious from a serious accident.
     
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  12. Widdershins3

    Widdershins3 Active Member

    Re: the nature of the spiritual dimension:
    I just remembered a visionary experience I had many, many years ago. I was writing a short story and was sitting at my parents' kitchen table trying to come up with a somewhat supernatural experience for my character to have at that point in the plot. I was getting nowhere and decided to try meditating on it, but the second I closed my eyes, I was a sentient point in outer space! I could see in every direction to infinity and space seemed to exist on a grid of lines of energy. Bright points of light sped along the grid and when two of them intersected, a crystalline structure formed and then melted away in seconds. A closer look showed symbolic objects within the crystal.

    Shock made my eyes fly open at that point and I will forever regret not staying in that strange matrix to learn more about it. It was unlike the Summerland level that I long to return to, but it was familiar to me too. I'm an artist and have tried to paint what I saw, but nothing in 2 dimensions can ever capture that shimmering energy matrix or the infinite worlds, nebulae and galaxies it contained. I have a feeling it was important in nudging me toward astronomical art, but where/who it came from, I have no idea. Haven't thought of the experience in ages...
     
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  13. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I wish I had such recall of such events. As I read your words I 'saw' much of the detail you described but whether my 'seeing' is anywhere near close to what you experienced I don't know.

    It's a different situation, I realise, but on occasion in a dream I have experienced detail similar to your crystalline structure example. As I focused in my dream state I could 'zoom' in on minute details and they became sharper, more vivid and with amazingly clear colors. The detail became larger and more intense the more I zoomed in on them.

    Maybe that's just the usual business of dreams but that process of focus and zooming isn't something routine for me. My dream recall is usually of a jumble of 'stuff' from my day-to-day life, with few clear details.
     
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  14. Widdershins3

    Widdershins3 Active Member

    My recall is usually pretty poor, especially for a very brief event that happened 50 years ago. But that startling couple of seconds was so unexpected and, well...immense, that I wrote it down immediately, right in the manuscript in front of me. Then I began to try to paint what I'd seen, reflecting again and again on what I'd seen. As a result, I can still see it, decades later. Not sure what region of reality I was in, but at the time I was nursing a cold cup of coffee and hadn't consumed any alcohol or even cold meds. And it's never happened again, even once, in all the times I've meditated. All I can figure out is that my guides meant me to see that at that moment in time. Perhaps I wouldn't have ended up specializing in astronomical art without its impact on me. Not sure of the what or the why of it...
     
  15. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    Maybe the what and the why of it are because it's what you'd arranged to happen here, arranged before you ever set baby foot in this dimension. ;) A prompt made in the past by yourself, from yourself, for yourself in another incarnation. Maybe such an instance is one small part of a so-called life plan? food for thought, perhaps?
     
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  16. kim marine

    kim marine Active Member

    The accident I was in caused me to have a head injury, and what I experienced during the time I was unconscious seemed like ages. The Highest Power desired that I tell others about my experience and His love displayed. I asked, "How will I be able to remember anything that happened?" Telepathically He said that the Holy Eternal Spirit would be communicating with me during my life on the earth. He has been doing that so far for the last 34 years.
     
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  17. Nirvana

    Nirvana Member

    Does that mean that every event that happened is happening now? and can be experienced again if I wanted to?
     
  18. kim marine

    kim marine Active Member

    I believe that every event that happened is happening now, and since this is the place where Christ lives does that mean everything is complete on this plane of life? All we need to do is follow the invisible knowledge inside us in order to mature spiritually and grow up in the realm of eternal life?
     
  19. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    Wouldn't it be more the following?

    IF every event that happened is happening now then you would be - you are right now - in a state of still experiencing those events - somewhen. Because you participated in them (at a point we mistakenly see as the past) then by definition you are participating in them right at this point, a point we mis-classify as now.

    If so, what does all that really mean in 'real-life' terms? Does 'real life' even mean anything anyway? And if it is so, what meaning can it have for what we've termed 'spiritual progression'? Progression implies moving from one state of progress to another point. We think of it occurring in linear time. If, as Roberta suggests: "...time does not objectively exist, which means that anything that ever exists, always exists." it must mean we've always existed hence are always fully spiritually progressed.

    I can buy that.....

    edit: If any of the above is anything like right then perhaps all we're here for is to experience how it feels when consciously we are unaware of the true situation? If that were the case changing the dynamic of ignorance vs. knowledge about that situation would change the experience we get.

    Would that matter, I wonder? Perhaps the dynamic has always been changing and will eventually be reversed compared with how it currently is? Enlightenment for all or most, the minority not knowing, the majority aware?

    Maybe that's the illusion versus the reality of life; what 'all this' is really about?

    But why would that be? Perhaps more significantly is the question does there have to be a 'why'? Asking 'why' is what we do when we're in a state of ignorance.

    There doesn't necessarily have to be a 'why' concerning life, death et al. No reason, it just is what it is.....
     
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  20. kim marine

    kim marine Active Member

    I don't know what 'death et al. means', but I couldn't agree with you more.
     

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