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spirit flying in an orb

Discussion in 'Afterlife Evidence' started by Scott, Aug 21, 2015.

  1. Scott

    Scott New Member

    Here is a photograph of a spirit not flying in an orb.

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    Here is a video of a spirit flying in an orb.

    Paranormal Exposure, Hard Evidence

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-k9PHX4MR4


    Both good and evil spirits travel in these orbs.

    The orb can be found in the Holy Bible as chariots of God.

    Psalm 68:17. The chariots of God are twenty thousands, Even thousands of thousands. The Lord is among them as in Sinai, in the Holy Place.
     
  2. Thanks for sharing, Scott. It's an interesting photo.
     
  3. Matty Mo

    Matty Mo New Member

    Interesting photo, I can see something that looks like a face in the orb. All in all, as much as I'm convinced of the ethereal, I have a difficult time putting too much faith in orb pictures or video. Just too many variables can be involved, as many of us know. I used to love "so-called" spirit photography as well but when I did more research and found out how often things were faked, manipulated, etc. in the pics I lost my faith in them. In this day and age photo shop and other editing skills make it really hard for me to have any faith in spirit photos or videos, unfortunately.
     
  4. sarah4810

    sarah4810 Member

    Interesting but I have to agree with the above post after doing research. Not to say all are fake but this one looks nothing like some of the ones deemed valid.
     
  5. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    It looks genuine to me, dear. Orbs are highly variable in appearance, but that energy/grainy thing that this one has going on is seen in some of them, and would be hard to fake. It's lovely!
     
  6. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    I don't know if that orb is just dust, or a fake, or a spirit, or something else. However, it is actually quite easy to fake an image like that, for someone well-versed in using Photoshop or more advanced such programs. I'm not saying that's what is going on here, because i don't know -- but it's definitely possible.

    Scott -- most bible passages can be interpreted in many ways, and you are interpreting that one to be about orbs. Of course you are entitled to believe as you choose, but it is completely a matter of interpretation.
     
  7. MalMac56

    MalMac56 Member

    I don't know why you say it would be hard to fake Roberta, anyone with Photoshop can make a fake orb in less than 10 minutes - even a complete newbie.
     
  8. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    There's an old saying "The camera never lies." But individual interpretation of the image can be biased or simply mistaken. The final interface after all is the eyes, hardly a perfect means, and interpretation of the signals is by the brain. Lots of ways to get things wrong.

    Add to that any inherent image alteration by camera software - or carried out deliberately - and there is a need for caution about saying that any image would be hard to fake. Along with Adobe PhotoShop there are various other programs for 'enhancing' (changing) images.

    The authenticity of images obtained from regular photography using traditional cameras and film has often been in question and in this digital world it can be hard to know what's authentic and what ain't.
     
  9. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    The photo looks pretty cool. If the above has some truth to it, then I can understand spirits in general traveling within orbs. But Im not quite sure about the evil spirits traveling in them as you mentioned above. Is there any such thing as an evil spirit at all? How would they be able to travel in these Chariots of God if God is loving energy? Would you happen to have any articles relating to this?
     
  10. janef

    janef Moderator

    This is what I wonder about also. If there is no negativity in the Afterlife, and everything is blissful loving energy, where do evil spirits come from? Or do they only exist here from earthbound entities? :confused:
     
  11. Highlander

    Highlander Member

    I believe evil doesn't "come from" anywhere, it just is. Evil, imo, is a result of egoic low-level entities such as human beings and other similarly unconscious beings throughout the realm in which we live. It follows that there is no evil in the Afterlife because we lose our ego when we pass, since we shed our humanness and revert to our true selves. Animals and children don't have egos and so are not evil. It is very easy in deep meditation to invoke evil beings or loving beings as there is an abundance of both.

    We humans are intelligent enough to create highly advanced weapons with which to kill each other and it is our egos that make us stupid enough to use them.
     
  12. janef

    janef Moderator

    I agree, there is no evil in the Afterlife, and only then do we lose our ego completely... but its confusing.... So there are evil earthbound entities, and in other dimensions, realms? Would this be what they call the outter darkness?

    btw... guess you have never had an evil cat... lol. :p good to see you here...
     
  13. Highlander

    Highlander Member

    I think this discussion can easily become a sticky wicket because people use words like "realm" and "dimension", etc. without defining them. This is partly where the confusion sets in. The way I view it is that all we can see or ever will see with our telescopes is one of several dimensions/realms. Our world i.e. the Earth, shares common laws of physics identical to all other worlds/bodies within this dimension/realm.
    When we transition to a higher d/r the physics change i.e. become higher vibrationally. "Earthbound" may not be a useful concept because in meditation other d/r are available to us and so we can communicate with, or are visited by good or evil beings from nearby d/r. I believe some of these beings are or were human and the vast majority are not.
    Good to see you also, Jane.
     
  14. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Looks like an orb. Quacks like an orb. I am content to believe that is what it is.
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2015
  15. janef

    janef Moderator

    Thanks... I can't really define dimension or realm so... I just want to know how to avoid any evil creatures, entities, whatever they are.
     
  16. Highlander

    Highlander Member

    I use the IGNORE button.:cool:
     
  17. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    Lol. ---- :)
     
  18. MalMac56

    MalMac56 Member

    Sounds like blind faith to me and doesn't do much for your credibility.
    I was under the impression you were a researcher.
     
  19. Highlander

    Highlander Member

    MalMac56, Research this: Roberta has multiple interests and is concurrently running several concerns. She is an author, public speaker, and an attorney with a busy practice. She also owns this website. So, with or without your bleeding permission she will publish here whatever she so desires.

    And, BTW, so will I.
     
  20. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Thank you, dear Highlander, a very spirited defense ;-).
     
  21. Highlander

    Highlander Member

    You're quite welcome, dear Roberta. Defense is my game. After all I almost went to law school. It was only my fascination with the physics of the etheral that lead me to study electronics and the electromagnetic spectrum as they apply to the afterlife. Quantum physics rocks, as you well know.
     
  22. katarina

    katarina New Member

    Highlander- I found your reply to malmac56 to be somewhat heavy handed and unfair. I agree with what Matty Moo wrote; he raised a very valid point. I don't know how to do the quote thingy, so I've copied and pasted his response in the first paragraph below:

    Interesting photo, I can see something that looks like a face in the orb. All in all, as much as I'm convinced of the ethereal, I have a difficult time putting too much faith in orb pictures or video. Just too many variables can be involved, as many of us know. I used to love "so-called" spirit photography as well but when I did more research and found out how often things were faked, manipulated, etc. in the pics I lost my faith in them. In this day and age photo shop and other editing skills make it really hard for me to have any faith in spirit photos or videos, unfortunately.

    I too, like malmac56, find it somewhat strange that Roberta is just accepting that this is a genuine orb without researching it first, exactly because of Matty Moo's response. I find it odd that you support Roberta's claim so blindly also. Just because she is an author, public speaker and attorney doesn't mean she is right about the orb! As far as her owning this website- does that mean that no one can disagree with her or voice their opinion? I agree that malmac56 might have been straightforward and somewhat blunt in his reply, okay, but he did raise a valid point.

    Please know that I mean no disrespect towards Roberta. I think she is genuine with good intentions and I'm glad she started this forum; I've also enjoyed her website with the podcasts. However, I do think, as said, that Matty Moo and malmac56 raised very valid points and that they should be allowed to express them. It was your reply I found a bit disturbing, not malmacs (a bit blunt as it might be!).

    And so, with or without your bleeding permission, I will publish what I want to, also!
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2015
  23. marmaladecat

    marmaladecat Member

    Hi Katarina, I don't think Roberta or Highlander were telling other members what they should or should not believe. At the end of the day, this is a discussion forum and we are all just expressing our perspectives. Whether we agree a particular view is up to us as individuals. I think the concern raised in malmal56's post was that there appeared to be an implication that Roberta was less credible just because she expressed her own personal opinion on this image. I am of the view that these things can be manipulated these days with editing programs such as photoshop so I'm unable to verify that this orb is genuinely produced. However, I can't fully rule out that the orb might be of genuine origin either.

    Perhaps malmac56's tone appeared heavier than intended (although only he/ she will know)? I don't find Roberta to be necessarily less credible as a researcher just because of this particular view, I just have a different opinion and that's okay on an open discussion forum. :)
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2015
  24. katarina

    katarina New Member

    marmaladecat (nice username!)- I agree with you that this is a discussion forum and we are all just expressing an opinion. Yes! That is why I thought highlander's reply to malmac56 was heavy handed. I didn't get the impression at all that malmac56 was implicating that Roberta was less credible- he was just bringing up the point that she seemed to be accepting this orb as completely legit when she hadn't researched it at all.

    Perhaps malmac56's reply was a bit blunt, as said, but highlander's reply was unnecessary and unfair because as said, this is a discussion forum. Malmac56 had a differing question/opinion which is also okay, especially as Matty Moo pointed out so well the problem with orbs.
     
  25. janef

    janef Moderator

    I think this comment is quite insulting to Roberta, which set off the response by Highlander to defend her. He rarely visits this forum anymore because of this kind of crap, so there is a little history here. jmo

    btw.. I think the orb looks genuine too, not saying it is... but the transparency thru the glass looks quite real to me. I have some orbs and a spirit photo I know are real, and I don't have a clue about photshopping, I can't even change the size of a photo to post on on the forum.
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2015
  26. Highlander

    Highlander Member

    My post was intended to be somewhat humorous. I tend to look at our existence here as somewhat of a cruel cosmic joke and inject humor whenever I write. Humor helps keep me relatively sane. Looks like that was not apparent to some people. I should have used emoticons or lols and will try to remember to do so next time. It is never my intention to impugn anyones character.

    Love and Peace to all...:cool:
     
  27. I could see your post had a humorous tone, personally I don't think it was mean at all. If we don't have a sense of humor once in awhile life is too serious and bleak. And I stand by that. I have a dark sense of humor but I have to be careful who I show it to because they might be offended when I mean no offense at all. Sometimes a sense of humor(and one or two other things) literally keeps me going. I kid you not.
     
  28. marmaladecat

    marmaladecat Member

    Agreed. Because I also recognised Highlander's style to often have humorous undertones, I could see there was a tongue in cheek element to his response.:)

    Whilst it's important to be able to disagree with one another if we have different perspectives, I think it is also important to ensure we aren't intentionally for malicious reasons trying to undermine a member's reputation or credibility.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2015
  29. Yes, Roberta has had a lot of experience with orbs, but it is fine to disagree with her(respectfully). Well said.
     
  30. katarina

    katarina New Member

    Highlander- nope, I guess 'some people' (obviously me) didn't get that your post was meant to be humorous. Didn't seem that way at all, at least not to me! I guess that's what happens when you're new on the block and not part of the regular crowd as the others rushing to your defense and agreeing with you. I do agree with you on one thing though- that our existence here is somewhat of a cruel joke. I'm with you on that one! And I've got a somewhat dark sense of humor myself- also as a coping mechanism, I think, to get through this existence of a cruel joke here!
     

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