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Soul Groups - 2 Quick Questions -

Discussion in 'Spiritual Growth & Development' started by Kurt, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    1 - Let's say that there is a soul cell of 15 people. When 1 dies do they wait for the others to die as well so that they can reincarnate into groups?

    Or....

    Do they just reincarnate whenever and the others just reincarnate at the same time when they die? (Non linear timeline)

    2 - Can you get kicked out of a soul group? I know that they are typically parents, children, siblings, fiends, spouses... Etc. Etc. In different lives, but they are all more or less a extended family in their various lives.

    So...

    If you are disowned by your family in a lifetime are you disowned by your cell group in the afterlife?

    If you reincarnate into a wrong group... Kind of like what was mentioned in the Switches at birth thread... Could that be a cause for being disowned?
     
  2. yewman54

    yewman54 Member

    My opinion, FWIW regards #1 is that it depends on what one is trying to accomplish and with whom. They may very well wait or return quickly depending on the larger plan. As to #2...everything broken is repaired on the other side so there would, likely, be no need to exclude anyone.

    YMMV

    Now here's a mind boggler for you. Given these family groups and changing roles as they incarnate...might it not be possible you are your own ancestor???
     
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  3. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    Yes they may wait until all soul-cell members are at a point to move forward together - that's not reincanation though.

    Each does what is right for her/him individually - the soul-cell members each know what other members are doing and they may be part of the events.

    no

    no

    That doesn't happen - you're not floating around randomly and ending up in the wrong place.

    You'll need to think about that in the full context of the way that soul-cells work.....
     
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  4. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    You're asking if a spirit might have animated a body physically-alive at another past time and also a body alive later. What do you think?
     
  5. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    Now that... Is an interesting line of thought....

    But I do not believe that we necessarily reincarnate into the same bloodline, but that we may reincarnate as an extended family.

    For example, if someone had a brother in this lifetime, they could become a friend in the next.

    Not that we would reincarnate as a family, with the Same blood, but as a family in the sense that we are all a group.... A 'Clique' even.

    Here's another mind boggler....

    This sort of makes bloodlines look like hotel rooms in a sense.
     
  6. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    This is very true.
     
  7. yewman54

    yewman54 Member

    I think it's quite possible that we could reincarnate into the same earthly family. I don't seen anything that would necessarily prevent it and I can see someone wanting to if perhaps the family...over generations...had taken a wrong turn and wanted to help them get back on a better course.
     
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  8. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    These considerations add an extra dimension to what might be involved in reincarnation and why it might occur. Sadly they're hypotheses and can't be proven or disproven. ;)
     
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  9. yewman54

    yewman54 Member

    You're right, of course, they can't be proven. At least not on this side! :)
     
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  10. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    And I'm not aware of any authoritative guidance on such issues.....
     
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  11. yewman54

    yewman54 Member

    Is authoritative guidance a requirement to offer a hypothesis and post on this forum? Or, are you asking where I got that particular idea?
     
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  12. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    neither
     
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  13. yewman54

    yewman54 Member

    Well, frankly, I don't much trust "authoritative guidance". Never have, never will. I read a lot and draw a lot of conclusions about what sounds logical and what doesn't. I make interpolations based on that. Not much different than you, really...at least from what I have seen here since I've been lurking :). I do not consider myself an authority on the afterlife. I view the debate on spiritualism the same way I do religion. That is, no one has to full truth. Some more, some less. I just try to sort it out the best I can. I have no choice since I don't believe there are definitive answers out there.

    Now, in all my reading and contemplation I have come to the conclusion that the reasons one may choose to reincarnate are vast and varied and may have more to do with another souls journey than our own. It's certainly not random...there's always a plan in place. Again, that's just my conclusion.

    Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. Take from it or not as you wish. As I said, I don't consider myself an authority.
     
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  14. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    Perhaps with a medium.... If only Silver Birch was still around...
     
  15. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I view reincarnation as something that happens but as an incarnate I don't feel any need to know detailed reasons for it. And I'm no authority on anything save, perhaps, growing plants indoors. :D
     
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  16. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    if only
     
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  17. yewman54

    yewman54 Member

    I doubt I'd trust Silver Birch any more than anyone else...:D

    I remember reading something on a forum one time. The poster asked people what they would do if Jesus showed up at their front door. Of course, they got all the pious answers that you can all imagine...falling on their knees and so forth. Me, well I was thinking more along the lines of "Dude, come in....we have a lot to talk about. Let me get you a drink 'cause this is gonna take a while".

    Trust is not in may nature, however, questioning is.
     
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  18. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I view trust as the province of the trustworthy and questioning and trust are not mutually exclusive anyway.

    But chaqun mi duck.....
     
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  19. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    Say what you want to, but Silver Birch is one of the most highly regarded guides known of.

    And as far as Jesus, I am sure that people really would fall to their knees crying if not dying of joy.

    I highly doubtful that is the way you would react.

    You seem a bit irritated.
     
  20. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member


    What does it mean?....
     
  21. yewman54

    yewman54 Member

    Kurt, I'm not irritated in the least! And, while I wouldn't be disrespectful, that is the way I would react...after getting over the initial shock, that is.

    I've not read any of the Silver Birch books and they aren't currently on my reading list but I am questioning by nature so I'm sure that if I get around to reading any of them I will read from a very questioning and skeptical perspective and then decide what seems logical and what doesn't. And if, at the end of the day, it turns out that my conclusions are wrong, then so be it. At least I tried to the learn. That's all anyone can ask. For some things in life, I believe, the journey is as important as the destination.

    Just to let you know, I have great love and respect for Jesus. I have a crucifix my wife gave me a few years ago. I wear it 24/7 because of my love for Jesus and the light he tried shine on this world.
     
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  22. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    Ditto!
     
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  23. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    I agree. I am equally discerning. But outright flushing a work away is not logical.

    The initial shock is what I was referring to. You, as would everyone... Would freak out.
     
  24. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    None of us can be certain about how we'd feel if someone appeared in this world who appeared, or presented, as the guy we know as Jesus. Or, come to that, if someone else appeared with a similar message. Short of demonstrating abilities that blew everyone's socks off I suspect humankind would be sceptical and/or dismissive of any such individual.

    It's an interesting notion to consider, though. ;)
     
  25. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    Honestly, I believe you are right. I don't know if you read it, but I said elsewhere that the only thing that will convince some skeptics is if

    And I quite off of memory... So please forgive what's incorrect, but since it is my words it will be right.

    Nothing short of Jesus Christ himself wheeling Stephen Hawking himself down a stairway from heaven to deliver a lecture on the afterlife will convince certain people of what we already consider to be true.

    It would take a lot.
     
  26. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    That's certainly an interesting notion! :D
     
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  27. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Kurt,

    1) We are told that nearly always loved ones will reunite in the Summerland, and usually to the next two generations, before anyone will reincarnate. Since there is no objective time there, and since we can choose to incarnate at any time - past or future - this is not much of an inconvenience, even for the most ambitious!

    2) Reportedly soul groups are enormous - perhaps in the thousands! - and insofar as we know, you have relationships with many others outside your group as well. We are playacting when we are here, and especially if you have had a lot of negativity in this earth-lifetime you will shed it all when you leave your body and everyone will hug you and tell you what a great job you did with a difficult life-plan! I think"disown" is not even a concept that any eternal being could understand.
     
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  28. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    I apologize for the misunderstanding

    [/QUOTE] I've not read any of the Silver Birch books and they aren't currently on my reading list but I am questioning by nature so I'm sure that if I get around to reading any of them I will read from a very questioning and skeptical perspective and then decide what seems logical and what doesn't. [/QUOTE]

    That is smart

    [/QUOTE] And if, at the end of the day, it turns out that my conclusions are wrong, then so be it. At least I tried to the learn. That's all anyone can ask. For some things in life, I believe, the journey is as important as the destination. [/QUOTE]

    I'm starting to like you.

    [/QUOTE]Just to let you know, I have great love and respect for Jesus. I have a crucifix my wife gave me a few years ago. I wear it 24/7 because of my love for Jesus and the light he tried shine on this world.[/QUOTE]

    That is very admirable.
     
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  29. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    I've not read any of the Silver Birch books and they aren't currently on my reading list but I am questioning by nature so I'm sure that if I get around to reading any of them I will read from a very questioning and skeptical perspective and then decide what seems logical and what doesn't. [/QUOTE]

    That is smart

    [/QUOTE] And if, at the end of the day, it turns out that my conclusions are wrong, then so be it. At least I tried to the learn. That's all anyone can ask. For some things in life, I believe, the journey is as important as the destination. [/QUOTE]

    I'm starting to like you.

    [/QUOTE]Just to let you know, I have great love and respect for Jesus. I have a crucifix my wife gave me a few years ago. I wear it 24/7 because of my love for Jesus and the light he tried shine on this world.[/QUOTE]

    That is very admirable.[/QUOTE]

    Could anyone here school me on how to properly quote someone?
     
  30. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    first:.[/QUOTE] but then delete the slash (ie the word QUOTE with a square bracket before it and after it but without the slash symbol /)

    finish the quote with[/QUOTE]
     

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