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So this is what is happening to me

Discussion in 'General Afterlife Discussions' started by Whatthe, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. Whatthe

    Whatthe New Member

    My 5 year old girl has been saying mostly since she could put a phrase together that when you die, if you are good, kind, and helpful, god makes you into a tiny baby again. Now, this is strange. We ask her calmly like in normal conversation, where did you hear that from or who told you that, and she insists no one, my brain tells me that. I know it in my brain, and such. Although it is impossible to know if anyone has really told her that, we highly doubt it. Especially because we have had no mention to religion to our kids and she started saying that before going to school. Anyway, today she was saying that again and I wanted to share it with someone.

    EDIT: by the way, I just picked the first forum on afterlife I found as I do not want to mention this to friends , dont want them to think we are crazy. I now realize this forum might have a different view. Me and my wife are mostly agnostic, but with this thing with our daughter we are kind of puzzled. If anyone else told us this we would think yeah right she saw it on tv or something, but we know this is not the case. Also my daughter just tells the truth, at that age they do not lie, they just tell whatever you ask. Anyway, dont know what to think. I wish I could talk about this with someone.
     
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  2. pandora97

    pandora97 Active Member

    Welcome to ALF. You are definitely in the right place. :) Unfortunately, I'm new to much of this myself so I can't really answer your questions but there are some very informed and knowledgeable individuals here that can explain this to you and your wife. In particular Roberta Grimes. This is her website and she's just the person to help. Hope you'll check back as Roberta may not be able to check in here right away since she's so busy with other projects. Other members may be able to shed some light...…...
     
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  3. Whatthe

    Whatthe New Member

    Thank you! I am not sure what I want to hear with this, but I surely feel I have to talk to someone about it. I am going to google her
     
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  4. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    Welcome! I hope I can help answer, but Roberta is a good bet. If you visit her website, you can get her email.

    She replies quickly.
     
  5. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    Now, I am no where near the level of let's say....

    Roberta, Mac, GeneEdwardSmith, etc. Etc.
    .....

    However, I do know that it is well documented that some young children remember their previous incarnations.

    IDK much more beyond it being an indicator of high levels of Spirituality, but that is what I can tell you.

    (BTW, don't worry about the sight... We're not fraudulent... At least all of the old guard and 90% of the new guard... Those guys get weeded out within an hour anyways.)

    That'll only be a 5 dollar consultation sir;)

    Just kidding, I hope you feel welcome here! I hope you continue to stay.

    Is there anything else afterlife related she's said that you are willing to share?
     
  6. Whatthe

    Whatthe New Member

    Thanks for the kind words. She has said "when I was a grown up" a couple of times and that she wants to have many babies... It is strange, sometimes it does feel like she has lived before.
     
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  7. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    Your welcome. That is very interesting... As she gets older I am sure that there will be more info. And that it will develop in detail, but that is a hit or miss. If it is repressed (ie, you get frustrated with it out of concern, kids bully her for thinking she's trying to be cool, teachers try and call her crazy.... Etc. Etc. ... She will either hide it well or repress and outgrow, eventually forgetting it.

    I had a similar situation when I was a toddler. Sadly, I did not have parents like you and mine thought I was possessed by the devil....

    If encouraged properly, your daughter could become a very special person. Especially in this community.

    As stated before, I would love to see you stay.

    Sincerely, Kurt.
     
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  8. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    The account of your daughter's words is interesting but not unique. Exactly what, though, are YOU looking for?
     
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  9. Whatthe

    Whatthe New Member

    Thanks. We are in no way repressing it, nor encouraging it. We just take it as normal conversation.
     
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  10. Whatthe

    Whatthe New Member

    I just want to talk about it. It is not easy for agnostic people to come across this. I want to manage this the best way possible.
     
  11. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    That's good!
     
  12. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    .
    Well you've talked about it - what she said, what you said etc. But now what?

    As for managing the situation I'm very much of the approach that they should never be forbidden from speaking but neither should they be encouraged by asking them questions unless the child is distressed.
     
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  13. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    One point I'll make is that children may not tell lies to deliberately mislead but some children, maybe all children, engage in a fair bit of make-believe as a natural part of their development. (some individual still engage in make- believe even as adults decades later. o_O)

    Now I'm not suggesting that's the case with your daughter but our daughter went through a short, similar phase and both my wife and I had never spoken to her in any manner that would have encouraged her to speak in such a way.

    Your child may indeed be recalling life at another time as another individual. But she may not. ;)
     
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  14. pandora97

    pandora97 Active Member

    Yep, we call them actors & actresses!!!:p:D

    But seriously, I have always felt that there were too many things about myself that couldn't be explained within the context of this lifetime. I've never investigated it though...……..o_O
     
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  15. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    Actually I think of them as fantasists rather than actors who generally work hard to become better actors.

    I've never said that feelings about oneself are NOT the outcome of previous life events but can we be sure that those feelings can not be explained in other way? Mystery is sometimes more attractive than a mundane explanation.... ;)
     
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  16. pandora97

    pandora97 Active Member

    Couldn't agree more :)
     
  17. Whatthe

    Whatthe New Member

    Of course she might not. There are a few more things to it, but the part of "if you are good, when you die god makes you a little baby" is the section we are more puzzled about. She is just learning the concept of death and came up with this, we do not even talk about "god" at all!
     
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  18. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    Elsewhere I mentioned the difficulties in viewing issues in isolation.

    Leaving aside the contentious issue of past-life recall for the moment there's plenty of teaching by guides generally accepted as authoritative that we experience more than one life here on earth. If that's so then our animating spirits may retain memories from our past, some of which we may occasionally access. I say 'occasionally' because we don't seem to have routine access to memories of other times.

    It's possible your daughter is accessing some of her earlier experiences and learning but it's also possible she may have heard something in this world that she's repeating.
     
  19. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    True!!! :D:D

    Also known as Trolls, Edgy Teens, Authors, D&D Dams and players... Etc. Etc. Feed at your own discretion.

    I have never taken myself too seriously, thus I never investigated as well. However as time goes on and go deeper into my studies I will start with past lives.
     
  20. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    My curse and my blessing.
    Everyone sees me as mysterious and opague yet charismatic. The result? I am the center of attention when the point of that facade was to make me a 'grey man'.... Eh.. you can't have everything.
     
  21. amina89

    amina89 Member

    I am spiritual,i believe in the afterlife..but reincarnation is not true..even some spiritual beeings said they never heard of it(so i read from mediums) ..so if you have been dead for 500 years and do not know about reincarnation then its obvious.

    Some chose to believe though,but i believe there are other explanations
     
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  22. amina89

    amina89 Member

    Other thing i forgot to say is...why would you reincarnate if you have been good? isnt the point of reincarnation to do better next time? at least in all religions that preach reincarnation it is not desirable...for example when my hindu collegues grandma died she wanted to be cremated at the ganges river,because those who get cremated there are free from reincarnation and go straigt up to heaven
     
  23. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    You can't show or prove that the principle of reincarantion is not 'true'. You believe or have concluded it's not true based on what you've heard but that doesn't affect the actuality of the situation. I happen to have reached the opposite conclusion based on what I've studied, researched, experienced, learned. It woud be daft my saying that proves it's true.

    See what I mean?
     
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  24. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    As I am now going to say here on ALF, even more than I have already been doing lately, is that debating or denouncing individual points in isolation, without a broad, general understanding of spiritual matters, is pointless.

    It would be as daft as trying to debate any advanced subject or declaring one point or another is invalid when you don't have anything more than a basic understanding of a subject - or worse yet, no understanding!

    shidad :rolleyes:
     
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  25. amina89

    amina89 Member

    Mac i am ok with that i actually deleted a message where i said i really hope reincarnation is not true..i have this belief our loved wait for us "there"..and even the ancestors we will meet there as the chinese and japanese believe...its just my personal belief

    Deep down this is the natural belief of all cultures..
     
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  26. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Anima89, I didn't like reincarnation either. But the evidence for it is abundant and overwhelming - including the testimony of many dead people - so I have to go with its truth. It is also true that we tend to reincarnate in groups, and we wait to welcome home the people with whom we shared that incarnation before we start planning another earth-trip. It really is a benign, lovely system! Not trying to persuade you, but just letting you know that it is nothing to worry about. It's all good!
     
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  27. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    I don't know if reincarnation exists or not, but I think it's short-sighted to unequivocally say it doesn't (and almost as short-sighted to unequivocally say it does).

    If it does exist, there might be a myriad of reasons why people would choose to undergo it (or be forced to, if that is a possibility). "Doing better next time" could be a reason, but so could coming here to learn, or to experience a human life, or to experience human/physical sex, or any number of reasons.
     
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  28. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    I hope that if reincarnation does exist, it is optional. I would never choose to incarnate again, but I'm sure there are people who would.
     
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  29. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    They don't so much wait for you as get on with their 'new' lives knowing you'll be joining them later....;)

    Many seekers are attracted by the misunderstood notion of reincarnation - yet one more issue where running before you can walk will trip you up. And considering ancestors is another issue that without context is likely to lead nowhere. Throughout my search for understanding one thing comes through more and more - baby steps. Sort out one simple issue before trying to move on to another that may be infinitely more complex without understanding the fundamentals. I don't know a simpler way.....
     
  30. Kurt

    Kurt Active Member

    I would choose a particularly tough time period if I absolutely had to. Im an Absurdist. I always enjoyed a good struggle.
     

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