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Pre-Birth Memory(Im new here, btw)

Discussion in 'General Afterlife Discussions' started by Ken, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. Ken

    Ken Member

    Hello everyone,

    My name is Ken and I am so excited to have came across this forum! Mainly because I have so many questions about the origins of mankind, and why we were born into this physical dimension.

    You may have heard of pre-birth memories and how some people claim to have vivid memories of who/what they were and where they were before their lives on earth began? Well, I've recently come across some of those stories or claims on the internet, and some of them are really strange but a handful of them are quite similar to my personal memory.

    I have had this memory all throughout my life, but I didn't think anything of it until I started becoming more interested in spiritual matters. It is a little lengthy but I did my best to go into as much detail as possible.

    Thank you for your precious time.


    My Pre-Mortal Memory – By Ken


    I was in a vast darkness and I was conscious. I was a part of the vast darkness and the darkness was not terrifying(I didn't know fear), rather, it felt like my home. I was whole and I didn’t need or want anything, I felt absolutely complete in that state and in absolute peace. There were many others like me and our character or behavior was based on one positive energy and looking back on this particular part of the memory, it took me a while to recognize what that energy was but here on earth we call it love. Love in the sense of character, behaviors and/or action and not just a feeling or emotion. If I were to think of another way to describe it, I would say that it felt like being in a state of “every-and-one.”

    I didn't have a body or a form and the five senses did not exist; hearing, sight, touch, smell, and taste. One thing I have to stress is that, there were no visible or tangible shapes of any kind in that vast darkness or dimension. And also, the darkness was not the result of the absence of light. The darkness existed because it was and I could sense it’s life force.

    In that darkness, there was an energy or presence constantly, with me. This energy seemed to know more than I did. It kept me company and would talk with me, but most of the conversation consisted of me asking a lot of questions and the energy giving me the answers. Unfortunately, I can only remember one of the questions, which I asked several times, “When is my turn going to come?” It would reply and say, “Very soon, just be patient.” This presence/energy made me feel a certain way and the feeling was similar in nature to how I would feel about my best friend. Right throughout this pre-birth memory I remember a sense of innocence or purity about myself and I was feeling very excited about leaving that place.

    I have been explaining the conversations I had in my pre-birth with english but in the actual memory itself, the conversations were not audible or in a typical language form. The communication was more or less like, telepathy. My impressions immediately became translated to others and others to me. But within the many impressions occurring all at once, I somehow had the ability to “amplify” or “tune into” impressions that were related to me and/or what I wanted to perceive.

    In that existence, movement or travelling was somehow related to communication. I don’t know how exactly but when I would pick up on a "conversation,” I would find myself immediately beside the communicator. And it felt like travelling because I could sense that my surroundings had changed. Now, I’m in a vast darkness so how can it be possible for me to notice a difference in location? Well firstly, perceiving the sudden presence of the communicator in front of me is half the explanation. The other half of this explanation is a bit harder to describe. Somehow in that vast darkness I could sense the difference in my surroundings, but the feeling I got from that sense was similar to the human experience of sight.

    Within this vast darkness I could sense that I was in an enclosed space where others like me were patiently waiting for their turns. The sense of time did not exist but I could tell that there was progress because the impressions(voices) would slowly grow smaller as their turns came and they would leave for their destinations. During this waiting process I did not feel like I waited for so long or for so little.

    In that environment of constant communication our impressions never contradicted one another, I couldn’t sense any division or separation, whatsoever. Simply put, my thoughts were a part of everyone’s thoughts and everyone’s a part of mine but all the while still having originality or individuality. I really felt like I was somehow attached to everything and that everything was attached to me and we were all alive as One.

    I realized that my turn had come when I suddenly found myself moving through what seemed to be a smaller-darkness, the same energy who was with me back in the enclosed area was now leading me to another place. I do not know if the darkness felt smaller because of my sense of space or because I could no longer sense or perceive the collective presence of other energies like myself. I remember looking or scanning trying to locate the the vast darkness and it was in that very moment that I believe I felt loneliness and want for the first time.

    Everything suddenly turned into the color of sky-blue(another first time) and that was the end of my pre-birth memory.


    Thank you so much for taking the time to read my story.

    Peace to all :)

    Ken

    PS - Here are memories from other folks, incase you wanna read on.
    http://cosmiccradle.com/category/pre-birth-stories/
    http://prebirthmemories.com/Michael_Maguire's_Prebirth_Memory.htm
     
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  2. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    "My name is Ken and I am so excited to have came across this forum! Mainly because I have so many questions about the origins of mankind, and why we were born into this physical dimension."

    It's interesting to consider how humankind emerged/arrived and then evolved into what we are now. I hope you'll find someone to give you answers to your questions but I haven't found anyone to do that for mine, neither here nor elsewhere online. :eek:

    Why we're here is rather more straightforward. ;)
     
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  3. Ken

    Ken Member

    Thank you for the reply, mac. Yeah, I always end up getting a real headache when I start thinking about where the universe might have came from? Scientists have one theory, the bible has another, some believe that ETs genetically engineered life on earth, others believe we are ETs.

    I look forward to having all my questions answered, when I go back to where I came from. For now, I'll just concentrate on life :)
     
  4. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    great reply!

    I wouldn't heed either our scientists or the Bible - neither are authoritative and neither is much relevant to 'the big picture'.
     
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  5. Annie

    Annie Member

    Thanks for sharing. It's fascinating that some people have these memories. I imagine it must be comforting, to have a visceral memory and to know that you will one day go back to that place. It's interesting how you are kind of in a waiting area with other people, waiting for that moment when you finally incarnate. I wonder what that moment must be like...I would feel so nervous. You're about to leave to leave paradise and embark on a journey (that could last up to 100 years) for a place that is, relatively speaking, full of dangers and unknowns, even if you try your best to plan it out beforehand. You know you'll be back eventually, you just don't know when, or what exactly you might experience in this lifetime you're about to jump into.
     
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  6. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member


    Think you'd feel nervous? You've probably done it before, perhaps many times, so perhaps excited by what you hope to do might be nearer to how you'd feel...?? :)
     
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  7. Ken

    Ken Member

    Thank you for reading my story, Annie. I didn't feel any fear or nervousness, whatsoever. Imagine a child going on a ski trip for the first time with his fellow classmates, that's the kind of excitement I was feeling. I remember asking my spirit guide over and over again, "when's my time gonna come?" lol
    Now that Im actually here I don't feel the same excitement anymore, but the memory has definitely helped me to look at life more positively and not take everything for granted, since it is only temporary.

    I do not know for sure if Im going back there once this life ends, but I certainly hope they'll let me back even if it is just for few moments to say hi to my peeps!

    Peace :)



    I don't know if I had lived on earth before, but it is a possibility since I believe my hard drive was left back in the vast darkness lol
    Some guys actually remember feeling worried and put up a fight before coming down here, maybe this is my first time on earth and maybe there are other hosts in other dimensions/planets that we can live in? I've heard of some folks who remember a past life on another planet. That would be seriously, cool!
     
  8. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    It's the same possibility for all of us....

    I'm going to disagree with what you report about the guys you say "..put up a fight..." How do you know that? As some of us understand the situation we make the choice to return. Why would we put up a fight? Maybe we'll feel a little anxiety about the changes we're about to experience, the trials we'll undoubtedly face. But putting up a fight means fighting someone - it's not my understanding of the situation based on what's been taught by those I consider spiritually evolved.

    Other locations - maybe planets - are said to be alternative places for spiritual growth. Certainly places other than our earth seem a possibility to me. If folk sometimes remember lives here on earth then maybe they remember lives elsewhere too. But it may also be the result of a fertile imagination....
     
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  9. Ken

    Ken Member

    Absolutely, the mind can be quite tricky at times. Im very curious about human consciousness?

    Oops! Sorry about that, Mac. "Putting up a fight" is a poor choice of words on my part. Here's a direct quote and a video narrative of two individuals and their pre-birth memory.

    **I don't know much about other teachings outside of christianity. And now that Im out of christianity, I only go by what is absolutely true to me based on my experience. I may do some research on subjects to find out more about the memory I have, but at the end of the day I can only vouch for myself.**


    Tom:

    “I am going to describe what it was like before I was born. I remember being in a dark place. Even though it was dark, it was a comfortable place without pain or want.

    I was among or a part of ‘others,’ like a speck of dust in an endless Universe. I felt I was a part of something that was FOREVER.

    “It seemed like I always ‘WAS’ and that I would always ‘BE’ whatever it is that I was a part of. Time was endless and I could not ever remember a Beginning nor did I ever think of an End. All I can say at the time before birth is ‘I AM and I knew that I was.

    “There came a time when I was told that I had to go. I was being told to go to a place. I did not want to, but everyone there had to eventually go. I just did not believe that I would ever have to leave everything behind. I do not know what ‘everything’ is or was, but I knew I had to leave it no matter what kind of argument I put up.

    “I was angry that I had to leave wherever it was I was at. Even after I was born I remained angry or mad that I had to leave. The best thing about being here is that I had the most wonderful mother anyone could ever want. She was the only person that never lied to me or hurt me or did anything bad to me. Actually I can’t remember a person that she ever betrayed or hurt.

    “I am getting old now, my health is poor and my time to go will be coming soon. I realize being human and living on Earth is a challenge or possibly a test that every person has to go through. I am not religious or spiritual, but I know that I came from someplace and hopefully I will be going back to the place that I came from to continue what it was that I was taken from.

    “Maybe this place is the end of the road and there is nothing after this. It’s hard saying what exactly life is or if it has meaning or purpose. No one really knows. One thing that I do know for sure is that the answer to LIFE, the UNIVERSE, and EVERYTHING is not 42. 43609!”


     
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  10. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    Do you base your present point of perspective concerning our entry and return to this physical world on these, and/or similar accounts?
     
  11. Ken

    Ken Member

    In a very general sense, yes. Having come across a handful of people who have strikingly similar memories to my own, tells me that there might be a tiny possibility that I wasn't just imagining things.

    But I hope to continue keeping an open mind about other spiritual teachings/truths, except fear-based religions - I am absolutely done with that lol

    Peace.
     
  12. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Ken, your story is fascinating! In what we call the afterlife - but is actually real life - communication is telepathic and travel is by mind and instantaneous. There also are hints in the literature that preparing to enter a fetus is a process - I have seen it called a form of "shrinking" - and we know that our primary guides are already with us at birth. Furthermore, my sense - based upon Bob Monroe's OBE accounts and other sources - is that there is a kind of default consciousness setting in which there are no images at all, just blackness, and individual entities appear to one another as sparks of light. So my hunch is that you are recalling a moment from the staging area that we assume exists, from which we then enter our fetal bodies. Just a hunch.
     
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  13. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    Turning your back on such religions is a very solid step forward.

    My personal view is that mainstream religion, its misplaced but well-intentioned delivery in school, and the consequent impact it can have even on adults, has much to answer for. I hope you will accept that the events you feel you have experienced give you an opening into researching 'the big picture' concerning our survival beyond death and what an understanding of that can mean to the lives we're living now.
     
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  14. Ken

    Ken Member

    Wow! What you just talked about is what I need to research! I can hardly believe that there are such teachings like that here on earth - Im assuming they talked to others with pre-birth memories like myself!? If that isn't(entirely) the case, then they must have found a way to reconnect to that dimension on some level. Im very curious.

    Im gonna look up Bob Monroe.

    Thank you for the wealth of information you just showed me, it was inspiring!

    Ken
     
  15. Ken

    Ken Member

    Coming out of christianity took a lot of mental strength to do. I really do appreciate the comfort and wonder it gave me in my time of soul searching. It really was the doorway into discovering my own spirituality. However, I do not deny some of it's beliefs which I experienced first-hand, like the power of faith/belief, OBEs, prophetic dreams and visions are absolutely real to me.

    But now Im on a new journey, one that is based on what I know to be absolutely true for me and every other teaching that it points me towards.

    Thank you for the encouragement, Mac. I will do my best to learn as much as my time on earth will allow me to :)

    Ken
     
  16. Annie

    Annie Member

    I guess how nervous I would be at the moment of incarnating would all depend on how much memory I had of my past lives I would have. I mean, I'd be aware that I've been on earth before, but would I actually remember it? If I felt like "I've done this before, I've got this!" then I might feel more excitement than nervousness. But a lot of what I've read is that people don't always remember very vividly. That when you die and go to the afterlife, you can kind of view your past lives as though you were watching movies, and they seem very, very familiar, but not as vivid as they would be as if you had freshly experienced them.
     
  17. Widdershins3

    Widdershins3 Active Member

    Ken, there are many fascinating books on that "before/between lifetimes" stage. Look for all of Michael Newton's books and ones written by the many hypnotherapists he's trained over a lot of years. I enjoyed Richard Martini's "Flipside" a lot too and he's written a 2nd book on the subject that I just found. My one quibble with Newton is that if a patient under deep hypnosis begins to speak of a Summerland-like place where they are, he immediately gets them to move on to the less-Earth-like way station where they are with their fellow soul group. But it's a small quibble, since he literally devoted his own lifetime to exploring what we do between lives and how we go about choosing to return and where and with whom. As someone who's remembered that Summerland from very early childhood and longed to return to it for most of 7 decades, I have a huge interest in what it's like. I also saw it out a window when I was taken for a brief visit with my son, who'd just died a few weeks before. It happened in a "dream" but was the realest experience of my life.

    I think, based on what I've read about the return process, that your experience was valid and I'm going to look at the links you furnished. That stage of our long unending lives really fascinates me.
     
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  18. Ken

    Ken Member


    Thank you so much for sharing that information! It is quite amazing to see so many people remembering things through hypnotherapy. I personally did not believe in those things but now I feel my mind becoming more open to it, mainly due to a lot of stories that are similar to my pre-birth experience. One particular story that fascinated me was a guy who was totally healed form his kidney problem, after discovering through hypnotherapy that it's source came from how he died in his previous life! That is mind blowing!?

    I understand what you mean by "dream," I personally think lucid dreams/OBEs/NDEs/Astral Projections are as real as physical reality, that they are experiences that our Consciousness/Self is having in different dimensions.

    You might want to also look into Cosmic Cradle, they have a lot of stories form people with pre-birth memories like me.

    Thank you again for your reply, I am truly blessed! Have a great 2017 :)

    Ken
     
  19. Widdershins3

    Widdershins3 Active Member

    Cosmic Cradle is on my Amazon list--thank you for the recommendation, Ken. I've wondered for many years why my son chose to come to me back in 1969. I was so immature for my age and had survived an abusive childhood only to end up married to a charming, highly intelligent sociopath who was abusive in every way I've ever heard of. But when my son died (on his father's birthday!) it was so striking that I became seriously interested in pre-birth selection of parents. A few weeks later, after I'd fled to the Netherlands to live, I had that "dream" of my son recuperating from his very traumatic 12 years in a room in a nice old Victorian building. We looked out the window and there was The Summerland, just as I'd always thought it was--big old trees, lush green grass and flowers everywhere. He told me he'd been invited to work with a group of advanced souls as soon as he was healed of the damage of his recent life and I knew as I looked at him that he was a very old soul who'd only come back to earth for the advancement of others. Even as a baby, he'd had "old eyes" that looked right through to a person's soul. His father was very disconcerted by him and I think he was the person Jeff was there to help the most. Those pre-birth memories deserve far more attention than they get, IMO. Babies are so much more than blank slates.
     
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  20. Ken

    Ken Member

    Widdershins3, what a challenging life you chose for yourself, you must be a very ambitious soul! :) Im ambitious like you, many struggles since childhood and now Im pretty much suffering the side effects of it in the form of depression. But when I think of pre-birth stories that remember choosing their own lives, I find a lot of courage in the possibility that I also must've chosen my own life. :D

    I think your son helped/is helping you a lot as well, I can see how you are hungry for more knowledge and growing on your own. I've shared my pre-birth memory with a couple of my immediate family and they've been quite intrigued by it but since we're all quite stubborn, I don't think anyone actually believes me lol
     

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