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Our experience with "the white light" and letting go of our fears. Please share.

Discussion in 'Spiritual Growth & Development' started by poeticblue, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    I remember when I was a young teenager, I dreamt that I was going through a white tunnel at rapid speed. The colors that were surrounding me were purple, yellow, and bright white. This tunnel was not intimidating at all. I felt like I was surrounded by pillows of clouds illuminating color. I remember that I just kept going and going and going. It was almost like a vortex. When I reached the end of the tunnel, I ended up in a field full of roses... At that point of the dream I woke up.

    I just want to lay it out on the line. Does the afterlife exist? Suck on a tootsie roll pop and let me know how many licks it takes to get the answer. Unless there is proof that the afterlife does not exist, then there is no need to speculate. Show me proof that it does not exist and then I will speculate.

    If anybody, (and I mean anybody) has experienced dreams like these, then I invite them to share it with the world right here and right now. Even if you have not experienced these visuals/sensations, feel free to comment. It has been far too long that children have been told that they are making up things. It has been way too long that our own friends and families would laugh for dreaming about a beautiful place with tigers that do not bite and plants that do not die. I don’t mean to be over the top (or maybe I do) but I’m sick of the hiding and the fear. Hiding behind our human-bodies consciousness (earth-made), generates fear. There is no need to fear. Embracing our subconscious (soul-made) generates freedom. Too many chains have been put upon us with this ridiculous indoctrination that God is to fear. So in order to experience the kingdom of heaven, you must put 5 dollars in the tithes and offering plate?! Now I don’t know about you, but I have bills to pay. And if God wants to send to me hell for not going to church and paying my tithes, then he better have a hefty fan for me when I get there. (Insert humor just in case)

    We don’t need a church to be close to God. I can go to the park or the movies if I wanted to worship. Makes no difference where we are. We can worship in our own dreams (which we do). I don't really know what else to say without going off topic. I encourage other people to reply. No more hiding.
     
  2. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    Perhaps for you there is no need to speculate whether or not the afterlife exists, and there are many people who share your view, and it is a valid viewpoint. However, there are also many people, like myself, who do need to speculate as to whether or not the afterlife exists, and that viewpoint is equally valid. I'm not asking you to speculate, I am just saying that your way is not the only way, and that just because you don't feel the need for something does not mean that the need does not exist for other people.

    That said, I do very much agree with you that if there is a God and if a person wants to be close to that God, it isn't necessary to belong to a church or attend church services. Some people like the ritual and community of a church/temple/mosque/coven, etc., which is fine, but other people prefer to interact with whatever they view as God on their own, wherever they are, and that is fine too. Each person who has faith in a god has the right to interact with that god however s/he sees fit, based on her/his own beliefs.
     
  3. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    I just asked if there were any people who have experienced the white light in their dreams or have felt that they have experienced the afterlife in their dreams. I expressed feeling out of place and that nobody needs to hide or send money to the church.
     
  4. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    And I agreed with your point about people not necessarily needing to attend church in order to interact with god.
     
  5. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    Yes you did, but I am not looking for your approval.. I was just posting a thread.
     
  6. When I was doing the ACIM workbook one of the earlier lessons had to do with a white light. That night when I went to bed I 'saw' in a dream a bright white cross shaped light that "opened up the very fabric of reality". That was a thought that was impressed on me, by impressed I mean that it was not the usual mind chatter.

    I was at a hermitage and had a dream about a brilliant white star. When I woke up I looked outside to see if there was a full moon, or Venus shining. I did see a brilliant constellation that was quite remarkable since I am rarely anywhere that does not have light polluted skies.

    While doing a meditation recently with someone from another country we both reported a saucer-shaped white light that faded to a dot and disappeared. That was quite amazing as we had some sort of telepathic connection.

    But although all these incidents are very cool when they happen, I'm not really too sure what they mean, if anything, other than they focus me on the spiritual/metaphysical realm of existence. Maybe that's their purpose...

    With Lovingkindness (metta),
    vic
     
  7. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    I know you aren't looking for my approval, and that's not what I was offering. I was simply agreeing with one of the points you made.
     
  8. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    Thanks for your story Vic. I am not worried as to whether these experiences really happened or not.. I was asking for stories and experiences… Something weird just happened but I will save it.
    This thread was not about who’s opinion was more valid which is what you brought up bluebird. It is time to move on. I actually thought you were going to reply about something spiritual. Got my hopes up and everything.
     
  9. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    poeticblue, I mentioned about both views being valid because in my opinion you acted as though only yours was, as though not needing to question whether or not there's an afterlife was a done deal for everyone, which it is not. and I did agree with part of what you said, about not needing to be in a church in order to interact with god.

    If I'd had a dream like the kind you mentioned, I would have shared it, but I haven't. You said "Even if you have not experienced these visuals/sensations, feel free to comment.", so I did. that's all. i'll leave you to your thread, as I've nothing else to add.
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2013
  10. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Dear beloved Poeticblue, I saw that white light flash when I was eight years old. Nearly sixty years later, the memory of it is as intense as it was right after it happened. I saw it again when I was twenty: same light; same voice speaking out of it. All of it is real. You are right, and in having the experiences that you do you are very much blessed ;-).
     
  11. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    Okay... well thank you Roberta...

    I am not sure how to reply to this anymore since this was not meant to be a debate... I was just sharing a moment for people who have felt out of place all of their lives and not for one moment.
     
  12. Celera

    Celera Active Member

    I think bluebird just mistook the intent of your first post, poeticblue. I know I misread it the first time myself, I skimmed it too hastily and thought you were saying something different.

    When I read more carefully I realized you were saying that it can be scary to share your experiences because people may not believe you. I'm sorry that is what happened to you -- personally I feel rather envious of those who have some experience that makes everything real for them. Most of us have to muddle along with just reason, hope, and best guesses.

    So, I hope you won't be discouraged about this thread. If not a lot of people post their experiences here, it might just be because most of us aren't that lucky.
     
  13. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    I am fine. It can be a lonely walk in the park when treading this kind of territory. It can be so lonely that even I begin to question myself. But I cannot think like that. I would be doing myself and all of my spiritual guides a huge disservice if I just swept this all under the rug. There is no need for me to make any of this up and purposely subject myself to skeptics if I wasn't absolutely sure. It already hurts feeling out of place as it is. Maybe a lot of people really don't dream or have astral projections. It is what it is. I am just giving other people a chance to speak about their experiences. There will be emotions that follow most of the things that I say, but in no way was I saying one way was the right way. Whatever was mis-interpreted, was probably based on preconceived emotions towards previous posts in the past. I will come back to this later with something relating to the subject. Thanks though ~~
     
  14. Celera

    Celera Active Member

    Personally, I have a lot of dreams, although I'm not aware of having any OBEs or astral projections. Most of my dreams don't really seem like they could be visits to the afterlife -- often I am lost in a big city or can't get to the airport in time or I'm in my childhood home looking for things that I left behind when I moved out 35 years ago. The other night I dreamed I was in a house in a bad neighborhood, and there was shooting and danger and I was worried about my kids.

    I've had a couple of dreams that seem more spiritual in nature, but it's not usual for me, and I have never dreamed about a white light or some of the other things you and Roberta describe.
     
  15. Carol and Mikey

    Carol and Mikey Golden Hearts

    I have had some great dreams and signs. No white light experiences. Would love to though!
    Carol
     
  16. I have not had a white light experience but I'm happy for those that do. It sounds wonderful.
     
  17. 99% of my dreams are like yours. I only get a handful of really awesome dreams a year. But the mundane dreams can reveal patterns. I get the "going through a bad neighborhood to get home" dreams a lot. Oddly, although I feel concerned for my safety, I never feel fear and always feel protected almost as if I'm viewing it from inside a protective bubble.

    With Lovingkindness (metta),
    vic
     
  18. janef

    janef Moderator

    I have had experiences with the afterlife, but never saw the white light, as you and many others do, or the colors either. Mine was like floating in the Spiritual realm, twilight, complete silence and so much love and peace, absolute perfection. There were spirit guides with me but I didn't see them. I had complete knowledge all at once, like understanding everything and having no questions. But I couldn't hold on to what I learned after I returned. I had a higher vibration throughout my body for a few days after and heightened awareness. It was the most powerful experience I have ever had. But I did not experience a God or religious figure. It seems I learned we are all a part of everything. It changed my life quite a bit. This occured spontaneously during a self hypnosis session. An OBE as I later learned... I had never heard of it.

    Thanks for sharing yours...I love hearing from everyone's experiences.
     
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  19. janef

    janef Moderator

    My recent post was a reply to you... sorry, I'm just learning to navigate this forum.. new at this. I am totally in touch with what you are saying! Been there... no deaf ears here. Keep sharing. Love hearing... I am a believer, but I know what you mean about "lonely".. as I have tried to tell people and they dont believe it or ask if I was using drugs ... that is why I am here.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2013
  20. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    I posted a reply to you just now and it did not post.... Well..I just can't stand anything these days its so frustrating. But I have read everything that everybody has said. I am glad that you all are choosing to share your experiences (and lack thereof) on this forum. Janef.. you are not alone! You are awesome!
     
  21. Celera

    Celera Active Member

    poeticblue, I'm not sure why you feel out of place for having these experiences. To me it seems like you have an edge over most people, in that you know what most people doubt. It's like you have inside information.

    If I had had such experiences I would probably go around feeling smug and superior. Perhaps that's why I don't have them, it would make me insufferable. :) But still, I hope you can get past feeling the way you do/have about these things, and feel more fortunate for having these insights. You know the truth whether people believe you or not.
     
  22. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    And may I re-iterate that nothing on this forum works anymore.
     
  23. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    Hey! I don't know where my original post went but it never posted... Well anyways girl, if there were a way that I could let you see what I see I would let you have it. But since things don't work that way, I handle it the best that I can. We may not always see eye to eye but I will always harbor love for you and everybody else. Thanks.
     
  24. janef

    janef Moderator

    Thank you Poeticblue.... I really was hoping to connect with others who have had an OBE/Astral travel experience.... there is another dimension very close to us. For me, I made the connection thru my mind in a deep hypnotic state, so I think it would happen while sleeping as well. I know I dream of places I have never been.. I did last nite. Sometimes I dream of myself and I look entirely different, once I was teaching a higher math class, and I am terrible at math!
     
  25. Highlander

    Highlander Member

    Poeticblue, as you know, I've seen spirits directly twice. Seeing and hearing them speak is an incredibly humbling and exhilarating experience. Roberta in her blog says only about two percent of people have such experiences. Having such encounters answers a lot of questions, and brings up a whole lot of others. That's why I'm here: to learn more about reality.
     
  26. Well,i can describe to you an experience i had that terrified me,some months ago...
    I was driving going home,but the sun was too strong so i felt it blind me,although i wore sunglasses.

    Well,at night when sleeping(totally alone) i saw the same sunlight suddenly increase and overwhelm me!!

    I didn't see any figures,just pure light. Then i woke up immediately,feeling for the first time of my life so
    scared and terrified. Never before or after have i felt so scared!
    I can't describe it exactly to you,because emotions are subjective states,but it was pure fear and terror!!
    I woke up and looked all around the room,believing someone was there,but i saw or heard nothing.
    About 30-40 minutes passed before i could sleep again...

    Still to this day i can't explain this strange event...Maybe it was my fear of crashing while driving projected to my dream through my subconscious...
     
  27. janef

    janef Moderator

    Highlander, that is such a special gift. Did you know them and did they have a message for you? Thanks for sharing.
     
  28. janef

    janef Moderator

    Filip, It might have been a message to be careful, but I think we choose how we feel. I like to protect myself by visualizing being sourrounded by white light, like in a bubble that cannot be penetrated by anyone or anything to harm me. It releases any fear I have.
     
  29. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    Janef.. You have made one of your connections here. Don't you ever feel like you don't belong anywhere. Most of us on earth may not be celeberties, but in the afterlife we are all given VIP care by our finest friends and guides. We are also given special care here, but as you know, it is hard to feel these things sometimes. Earth is not the only planet that is inhabited by other beings. It would make sense that you dream of being in other places that were not here. I also saw that you experience these things in a hypnotic state. It takes alot of skill and concentration to do that. I have not been able to experience these things in that way. You are very lucky. The only way I can experience this is when I wake up in the middle of the night and then gradually fall back asleep (which is like a meditative state as well). I believe that what you are seeing is astrally influenced and I believe that your experiences are real. Our minds do make up things from time to time when we dream or doze off, but with some research and experience, one can easily differenciate what is made up and what is real. And sometimes you just know that what you dreamt was very personal and special to you. It seems so hard because once you place human emotions into what you feel then all of a sudden people start questioning if it was real. Vic meditates and does all that stuff as well.

    Highlander----- Lets catch up sometime friend. I know you are special. I'm glad that you replied. I mean that. :)

    Filip I couldn't tell you what you saw or experienced but I am sure you have been wanting to get that out of your system. Have you told anybody else about this experience? Did they even listen to you? You were probably having sleep paralysis where you were half inside your body and half way out . Strange things can happen when you are in that kind of state..... Very----- Strange-----Things. Do you experience sleep paralysis at all?
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2013
  30. Highlander

    Highlander Member

    Janef, I explained my first visitation in my first post on this forum, so you can find it in the archives. Basically, my spirit guide came to me one night as I was very sick and gave me advice on how to cure myself. Multiple doctors, allergists and surgeons couldn't help me. I saw and heard "him" very clearly. Knocks my socks off whenever I recall the experience.

    The second time was when my father, who had passed away a few hours prior, came to me "through" my German Shepard. I saw his face quite clearly. I also detailed this encounter in a previous post.
    These events both happened out of the blue with no influence from me whatsoever. Just "poof!" and there we are. Go figure.
     

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