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Our efforts to communicate with the stations that link us to the afterlife

Discussion in 'After-Death Communication' started by RCraig, Nov 28, 2015.

  1. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    All I know is, before I rejoined my physical vehicle that was lying comatose on a hospital bed, I was assured that I would experience situations during life in this dimension that are extremely familiar, and so far, everything has shown up in perfect key. This is the life I chose, and I am going to live by what resonates within my conscience. It doesn't matter when we reach any of those great finds that you mentioned Mac, although it will be wonderful when we do. I am not diminishing any of them, but all of us are needed here in this world the way it is right now; for both our benefit and the benefit of everyone who lives here.
     
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  2. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    What is the 100th monkey effect? Like playing follow the leader, or being the change that you want to see in the world?
     
  3. mac

    mac Staff Member

    I didn't say that it does matter when such progress is made. I said it's remiss to indicate a time WHEN it will happen when no-one has any real clue when it will be, discarnates and incarnates alike.

    And it's debatable that it will be wonderful if/when such changes come about. It will be an unprecedented situation so we can't actually know how humankind as a whole might react to knowing what we know as a small, insignificant group of individuals.
     
  4. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    I didn't mean to come off as I was telling you something you didn't already know, sorry. Your my buddy Mac! Read post #76 on the 'illusion' thread in the Spiritual Growth and Development forum.

    Is that because this is the dimension of growth and transition?
     
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  5. mac

    mac Staff Member

    Thank you but apology not needed. You didn't come over that way, kim, but sometimes I wonder if I'm failing to make points clearly enough.... We're not falling out, just debating points.;)


    no

    I suggested earlier "...that our friends unseen appear quickly to lose any sense of earth-time after they have passed over so the last ones I think we should take any notice of in this regard are those indicating any kind of time frame for spiritual progress. If they were to say "It's work-in-progress but we have no idea when we'll succeed or how well." then I'd be the first to applaud."

    Let me try it another way.... Why would researchers here expect researchers 'over there' - who are no longer exposed to the time we experience - to be able to convey the likely earth time that any particular break-through will occur? For example the ongoing development of the so-called soul phone or any other electronic communication device come to that?

    But if their spirit experimenter counterparts do/did suggest a specific time, isn't it reasonable to expect them to 'meet the schedule'? Otherwise what point is there in giving a time?
     
  6. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Dear friends, speaking for those I know who are closest to this work, it is our hope that the advent of easy and universal electronic communication with those that we used to think were dead will in fact be highly disruptive! Ideally, we expect it to do the following within a fairly brief period:

    1) Make the fact that the dead are alive a huge "new thing." People are so ready for this! In the almost seven and a half years since The Fun of Dying was published, I have watched the afterlife go from a fringe interest to something almost mainstream, and public interest in it continues to grow at an ever faster rate.

    2) Shame the mainstream science gatekeepers into beginning to allow the study of spiritual evidence. The amount of egg there will be on the faces of scientists who have insisted on maintaining the "scientific" dogma of materialism, and their reactions to it, will be fun to see. But more importantly, there will be a whole raft of young physicists ready to jump in and advance human knowledge in this field by leaps!

    3) Complete the death of religions. This is likely to take perhaps a decade. The hold that religions still have on people is strong! But all religions are being hollowed out, and this trend has increased dramatically over the past few decades; now when people are in regular contact with loved ones speaking from where the truth is known, that trend will accelerate. And since there is no human force more divisive and destructive than the ancient and primitive phenomenon of superstition-based religions, getting rid of them will advance peace on earth by leaps!

    4) Amplify the voices of great spiritual teachers. Christians ignore Jesus, in particular, and they will continue to ignore Jesus until the religion named after Him that actually has nothing to do with Him at last dies the death that seems to be underway. Those now in contact with the upper levels of reality know that Jesus is revered there, and that His teachings are true, so bringing those teachings to the forefront at last and universally - without religious nonsense in the way - also will be an immense contributor to human unity.

    5) Make achieving genuine spiritual growth the "next big thing." Once people know for certain why we are here, and the fact that spiritual growth is the point of human life and will make their afterlife a lot more fun, then Katy bar the door! The now-ongoing shift in Western countries from religious to spiritual pursuits will dramatically accelerate. Again, a great spur toward achieving peace on earth!

    ... And human emotional pain will dramatically lessen. I hear every day from people who are grieving, and no matter what I say I can't destroy their grief. But just that first conversation with a newly-deceased loved one can make grief disappear, as researchers already have demonstrated!

    In fact, the sudden worldwide and irrefutable awareness that there is no death would be the single most disruptive event in all of human history. YAYY!! Please God, bring it on!!
     
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  7. mac

    mac Staff Member

    "In fact, the sudden worldwide and irrefutable awareness that there is no death would be the single most disruptive event in all of human history. YAYY!! Please God, bring it on!!"

    Given the near-constant parlous state of our physical world, I would expect such a disruptive event to be almost unconscionable, unthinkable to the highly evolved individuals charged with the care of us in our human forms and the environment we all choose to experience; unless at some point humankind and its environment have either reached a point where such an event could safely occur or the reverse. Where everyone and everything were under the gravest threat imaginable or unimaginable.

    Either scenario appears far into any distant future before which we may have reincarnated many, many times or even have finished with reincarnation completely. A scenario so distant that all of us souls around right now will long have moved forward into dimensions way more spiritually-advanced than anything we're likely to experience shortly.

    And if the hope Roberta expresses were ever to become reality we may have moved on so far we won't even get to hear that it's happened. ;)
     
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  8. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    I wonder if sometimes the problem is that they know an important development is on the way, but are not aware of potential problems. I'm thinking of Scole as an example of what I mean.
     
  9. Ed A.

    Ed A. New Member

    I respectfully disagree, and rather strongly. To instruct people to kill of religion sounds intolerant and rigid. And it will be done in a decade? Come on. Religion has been around as long as history. It's not going anywhere.

    Throughout history, most people have found their way to faith in God through religion. Atheists love to bang on about the destructive power of religion, but the amount of good done by religion and religious people is incalculable. Even if parts of religion are off-base, they provide a framework that helps many people to find faith and live better lives. Many people continue to find deep solace, truth, beauty, faith, and goodness in religion.

    To say that we should kill off religion ... that sounds like just another dogmatic, intolerant fundamentalism. There are many paths to God, not "one right way," including yours. We should allow everyone to find their own path, not try to shut down paths which for millenia have helped, supported, and guided people.

    Pressure them to change and update, based on new evidence? Sure. Kill them off? Even if that were possible, no.
     
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  10. mac

    mac Staff Member

    Or the ITC guys from a similar period...

    Maybe incarnates and discarnates alike just get 'carried away' by the tantalising possibility/probability? As I indicated earlier, when I got into 'the-spooks' (survival and Spiritualism) I heard repeatedly that something big was just 'around the corner.' To me 30 years plus ain't just around the corner yet nothing big has happened! So who was telling whom to expect something, one wonders?

    Perhaps the discarnates who communicated that message had lost touch with what time means here or simply had little understanding what this 'big thing' might actually be or when it might actually come about.

    But we're told repeatedly that time doesn't apply 'over there' so how on earth (no pun intended) can discarnates relate what they expect to happen here on earth to any point in time as we experience 'em here in this dimension?

    And if time isn't linear and everything is happening concurrently (as we're repeatedly told) exactly what does it mean when discarnates suggest some thing WILL happen. Using the earlier pemiser it's already happening.

    Hence if a so-called soul phone is considered a possibity 'in-the-future' it's also already a reality 'somewhen' and discarnates are already communicating with incarnates with such a device and vice versa. Is that what we should embrace?
     

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