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mac's musings

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by mac, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. mac

    mac Staff Member

    I'm a quiet, often reflective guy, more an observer than a participant in this world - that's often how I feel and sometimes how I describe myself. I coined 'shidad', along the lines of the ridiculously-overused 'lol'. I use my creation sparingly but inside me it's probably the most frequent reaction to the goings-on in this world. And just when I think there couldn't be anything more weird, bizarre or outrageous than the customary daily diet of weird, bizarre and outrageous, some individual will prove me wrong - shidad! :rolleyes:

    What set me off shaking my head in disbelief and dismay - shidad - was an innocent social at the weekend, a 'good-bye' gathering as a couple of friends left our resort, individuals we'll likely never see again in this lifetime. As we waited for them to arrive we chatted to another friend, all laughing and joking about old age, infirmities and the state of the world. Then we were joined by another individual. Her contribution to the conversation was to almost dominate it. She rattled away about stuff that sounded to me like her random thoughts, personal trivia, a monologue. Before long we made our excuses and left, shocked but not surprised that someone should think that talking about personal trivia constituted a conversation. But that behavior is far from uncommon unless we're just unlucky! These individuals appear wrapped up in themseleves, seemingly desperate to blurt out the stuff that we may think but wouldn't dream of boring anyone with.

    As this is a spiritual and afterlife website, though, I try to write about issues that have spiritual relevance and the above grumble does have one. I've often said that what we experience here in the physical is mostly what we can't experience elsewhere, even that of boring the pants off someone! Or behaving weirdly, bizzarely or outrageously. :D;) Or being bored and outraged by others so very different from ourselves.

    In the world of the spirit we're not stuck with those who are unlike ourselves hence such experiences will be unknown for those who have not incarnated here - that's the spiritual element of my curmudgeonly observations. :)
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2019
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  2. Ruby

    Ruby Active Member

    Mac, this is a constant refrain in my life. Women seem to just want to chew my ear off! If anything happened to my husband I'd be left with these self-absorbed women who seem to have no appreciation that a conversation is an exchange of views. Even folk I've not seen for a while and look forward to seeing, disappoint in their enthusiasm to tell me everything that's going on in their lives without pause for me to get a word in edgeways. I don't know if it's hearing politicians and commentators in the media interrupting each other constantly and people encouraged to think their every utterance and opinion is precious and must be tweeted or blogged, or if it's just me and I've been cast in the role of a good listener! One sure way to silence people is to tell them you've had intimations of an afterlife, but I've pretty much told everyone now. I'll try to remember next time that these things are sent to try us!
  3. mac

    mac Staff Member

    It's heartening to learn it's not just me and my wife who feel this! I don't know if it's mainly women - men may be as bad but I have to say I'm aware of more females than males - call that sex bias if you wish, I can't refute it. I don't know what the cause is or if it's just me becoming ever less-tolerant. I consider myself a good listener but not a good listener to self-absorbed trash!

    I don't see it as being sent to try us so much as our getting to experience the opposite of what we knew in the etheric. And for some the opportunity to do to others here what they could never do to them in the etheric. All part of life's rich tapestry, I guess. :D
  4. mac

    mac Staff Member

    Some years ago my wife told me about an extreme example of such self-centred behavior, a story we still laugh about whenever we've been dumped-on by one of these awful individuals. It goes like this.....

    My wife is one of a small group of retired work colleagues who get together each month for a lunch-time meal and a drink. In the usual group of eight were two of these horrible individuals. Both were totally self-absorbed, neither showing any interest in what the others were chatting about. They were both known for rarely having a kind word to say and would often dominate the get-together. If they did say anything involving the others it was often cold, callous or critical. My wife would give me the latest account on her return home, her emotions ranging from 'shidad!' to outright anger and frustration. Yet the pair were tolerated, one of them still tolerated to this day.

    That's the general scene but the central story is that on one of the meet-ups this horrible pair were sitting next to my wife. She'd arrived after the others had picked their places to avoid sitting near to them! The pair had only one another to talk to because they were at the end of the long table. My wife could hear everything this obnoxious pair were saying, each delivering a monologue about herself, neither listening or responding to the other. My wife was horrified yet fascinated at these women who were notionally in conversation with one another but in actuality neither was taking a scrap of notice of the other.

    I wonder how many folk are much like them? o_O
  5. Ruby

    Ruby Active Member

    "Horrified yet fascinated", I can relate to that. Been there, etc. I'm out for dinner tonight with two friends. One would talk without stopping given the opportunity, but is not at all boring, so you tend to want to chip in, just as she abruptly changes the subject, and the other is wise, witty, and quite naughty. If we can somehow manage to steer things after letting the noisy one excitedly chat for a bit, we'll have a great time. It usually works out well.
    Because of my dry eyes I go ahead to the table if I'm with someone who just wants me to listen to them and sit facing the room, as just focusing without interest on someone yacking brings on an attack. They don't realise I'm putting in the drops over and over as eyes so dry, which is like rain down glass as evaporates fast, so I say in desperation that I'm just looking around, and still listening, but it's torture really. You tend to need to look at folk who are talking. With some people, if you interrupt them because things are getting ridiculous they just carry on talking! At that point I say to myself, never again, next time they suggest a meeting I'll ask them to record it and send me a tape!
  6. mac

    mac Staff Member

    Completely off-topic here, Ruby..... My optician recommended gel-based lubricants ('tears') as I found regular ones just ran down my cheeks and would need constant application. Might be worth asking around about these gel-based products that should stay longer on the surface of your eye where they get chance to do some good.

    As for your other comments, well I think we see eye-to-eye. (no pun intended!) I'm glad I don't mix much with folk! :D
  7. Ruby

    Ruby Active Member

    Thanks very much, mac. New products have come to the market since I last looked. I thought the gel ones were only for overnight, so this is good news!
  8. mac

    mac Staff Member

    It might be that gel-based drops actually are intended for overnight use, Ruby, but worth checking the situation out anyway as it's quite some time since I was using them. If I remember correctly they can make one's eyes 'smeary' but that may be worth accepting at times when it doesn't matter that you don't see clearly. I understand how severe and chronic dry eye is a literal and figurative pain.

    Over here there used to be constant advertising of 'Restasis' which is a cylosporin based product intended to stimulate tear production if I remember correctly. It's Rx (prescription only) and a check online indicates there are no generic versions. I don't know if it's licensed in the UK but it might be worth asking.
  9. Ruby

    Ruby Active Member

    I've already bought a gel-based one by mail order this morning. Thanks for the recommendation, mac. I'll try anything! I dread the switching on of air conditioning in public buildings which happens around Easter even if it's freezing and blowing a gale! So very painful on the eyes. I can't tolerate it. For some reason human beings have to be treated like chickens in a fridge, in case we go off maybe!
  10. mac

    mac Staff Member

    I do understand, Ruby! My eyes are only mildly sensitive to air movement but ice-cold a/c is still a pain so I can understand what agony it must be for you. I'm pretty skinny and a/c is a pain for me generally as I have no thick tissue layers to insulate my body and in even a slight draft I get a stiff shoulder, neck and/or back when chilled air is blowing - quite a problem here in AZ where it really is hot enough to regularly need air conditioning, even in homes. Only this week we were at a show with ceiling mounted fans and the air conditioning going and I wore a polo shirt, a sleeveless pullover (vest to our transAtlantic friends) a long-sleeved thick cotton shirt topped off by a polyester body warmer and a baseball cap! OK I had to unbutton some of my layers but I kept on all of my clothing to avoid the icy-cold air wafting around. Even in the UK I have to do something similar in cinemas and theatres, mainly in summer.....

    I'm glad you've found some gel tears to try and wish you luck with them. The only other thing that might help a little would be some close-fitting spectacles, maybe slightly tinted to look fashionable if you prefer.

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