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Discussion in 'Member Introductions' started by dingodile, Mar 18, 2018.

  1. bluebird

    bluebird Major Contributor

    Ok, but that's not really answering my question.

    You've said you don't mean "god" when you use the word "Consciousness", but you also say that the "Consciousness" to which you refer "sees potential in everyone of us, because we are a piece of It". If by "Consciousness" and "Highest Power" you mean some sort of sentient being that created us, then that is what people commonly refer to as and mean by "god". Words may be inadequate to describe such a being, but they are what we have and so we must use them as best we can.

    Regardless of what it is called, if "Consciousness" is not sentient, then it can't see or perceive potential in us, or anything else. You said that "Consciousness" perceived potential in us, which is what prompted me to ask what you mean by "Consciousness". It seems to me that by "Consciousness" you do mean "god", you just prefer not to call it by that name.
  2. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    You are putting words in my mouth. What I perceive may not be what you perceive. The idea of "god" may mean totally different things to each of us. It depends on what you have been exposed to during your lifetimes. Our eternal home reflects the nuance of our mind. Jesus said he prepared a room for each of us, and I have experienced many of the rooms that he created during my previous lives that we're pulled from my mind while in the coma and unconscious of life on this earth. I do not think that Jesus was god's son, but a highly evolved soul. Souls become visible in the energy provided by something. During that NDE I continuously asked to see God and the spirits snickered when I asked to see him. It is a mystery. Don't you like mysteries? It is pointless to rattle a person if they don't agree with what you think. Make sense of life for yourself here, because life is yours to be lived as you wish.
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  3. bluebird

    bluebird Major Contributor

    I am not trying to put words into your mouth; I am asking you to define the words you are using, as you seem to be using them differently than the generally accepted usages. I agree that the idea of "god" may mean different things to different people, and that we may perceive things differently, which is why I am asking if you consider what you are referring to as "Consciousness" to be "god", but more so whether you consider it to be sentient.

    You said that the "Consciousness" to which you refer "sees potential" in each of us, so while I was wondering if you view "Consciousness" as god, mainly I was asking if you view that "Consciousness" as sentient, since only sentient beings can see or perceive anything.
  4. dingodile

    dingodile New Member

    I kinda thought consciousness just is the property of being sentient.
  5. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    I agree with you dingodile. I don't give it the label of a god. It is sort of like a state of being, and we have the privilege to share that state of being. It is not me, so why try to identify with anything here? I look for higher ways of being. It can't be explained, so just enjoy your life.
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  6. bluebird

    bluebird Major Contributor

    In humans, yes. But I don't think that's what kim meant, as she capitalized it as a proper noun, and said that it "sees potential" in us. It's hard to tell for sure what she meant, though, as she is (in my opinion) talking in circles about this.
    But clearly she and I are having two different discussions, so I suppose I'll just leave off this discussion for now, lol.
  7. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    This article backs up what I am unable to explain and exemplifies why I seem to talk in circles to those who have not experienced the invisible realm of reality.
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  8. mac

    mac Staff Member

    If that's how it constantly is for you then surely you'd be better off with those who have shared your experience rather than repeatedly being unable to express yourself effectively to those who haven't?

    Alternatively why not try to discuss the issues with us at our own levels of understanding? We can't 'up' those levels if we haven't had your experiences but you could come down to ours. Or you could discuss simpler, different, issues. That's your challenge.
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  9. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    You're right Mac.:)
    "That's your challenge", I think those words are why I was left alive, because I know I am an intense person and need to chill a little bit, as I bring some of the Christ that is in me to earth. I call it Christ, but call it anything you'd like. It's all about balance. Christ+man=human Thank-you Mac!:)
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2018
  10. dingodile

    dingodile New Member

    On the one hand, to be conscious at all is to experience something invisible, since consciousness and its contents (thoughts, feelings, etc.) are not visible. But that article seems to be talking about something else, rather like another dimension of existence. I have no reason to doubt the reality of that dimension, but I've never had any awareness of it myself, even after many attempts to do so.

    To be conscious is to have experiences--any kind of experiences. Some people, such as yourself, have experiences of a kind that others of us do not. Since it's hard to describe experiences except by comparing them to other experiences of a similar kind, it's not surprising that language fails when the experiences are sufficiently dissimilar to what the rest of us have.
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