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If there is an afterlife, how would you prefer it to be?

Discussion in 'General Afterlife Discussions' started by bluebird, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    lolol! Sounds worth a shot. ;)
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  2. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    Boosting this up in case anyone else wants to share; I would definitely like to read about how you would like the afterlife to be for you and your loved ones. :)
  3. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I've given this question some thought but can only find a total blank space. I don't have any desire how I'd like it to be but my approach is that I'm likely to enjoy whatever I find. If I don't then I'm totally comfortable that I'll be able to change things locally to suit any preference I may discover I have.
  4. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    You'll be happy regardless, then. :) Good!
  5. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    That's one thing I'm expecting. :)
  6. Fisher

    Fisher New Member

    I’m taking a cautious approach as what to expect. I have recently become somewhat closed off to current ‘ new age ‘ tripe. Opinions are everywhere and with today’s information age, I have a feeling most ‘ experiencers ‘ are just regurgitating what others have said.

    Today I find the pre Internet material more believable. Maybe I’m just getting old and cranky.

    I guess I need to experience it, to believe it.

    So, have I experienced anything? I think so, and that has left me something to expect, but it’s very thin. Not much to hold onto.

    I will say this, I have very interesting experiences between the hours of 3 to 6 am. Different levels of consciousness, with some being fully lucid.

    The imagery is stunning. Something like a cross between Alice in Wonderland and OZ. The lifeforms I witness make me wake up speechless. Their so, SO excited to see me, and unfortunately when in the experience I seem to care less. Honestly, I’m very rude. This always makes me feel like an ass.

    Nothing like apologizing to a quite room at 4AM…

    So with that, I wonder if I will get the opportunity to explore those more. Interact with the characters and figure out what those realms are. Act more interested in their stories and see just how far the rabbit hole goes.

    Or maybe I Could ‘live’ on a starship watching a galaxy spin? Could I jump into a ‘ Star Wars ‘ realm and experience that story?

    I mean when billions of ‘ living ‘ people believe in Star Wars, there has to be a galaxy far, far away…

    As for meeting people on the flip side, I have my list, but I also have this weird feeling, like I could find myself really embarrassed, about making such a fuss about the people, in this life, I have lost, while being reacquainted with all the others I just forgot to come here…
  7. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    The thread's not about what folk expect to find, or are unsure about etc. Bluebird asked how we'd prefer it to be.
  8. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    Precisely. ;) Thanks, mac.

    I appreciate your response, Fisher, but I'm interested in hearing how you would like the afterlife to be for you, ideally. :)
  9. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    One of the repeated lessons of the Course in Miracles is "I am not a body. I am free. For I am still as God created me." One thing I hope for an afterlife is a less clouded spiritual practice, better able to understand that I still am as God created me. The body is heavy, as it were, raising its vibrations (for lack a a better word) has, I hope, developed abilities, spiritual muscles, which can be put to use in new ways. I'm hoping my development of thought projection abilities will allow me to channel blessings on the world.
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  10. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing that, genewardsmith. So if there is an afterlife, you want to spend your afterlife helping people still on earth?
  11. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    That would be the hope. I'll see how it works out!
  12. Widdershins3

    Widdershins3 Active Member

    I've been working on a deadline lately and only been able to pop in here for a moment or two, now and then , but I've been thinking a lot about your question, bluebird. I definitely want to be back in the Summerland, myself. As a small, unhappy child, I would walk to the parts of my hometown where the mansions were and stay there for as long as I could, even though the penalty for wandering so far alone would be a grounding for a week or more if my mother caught me doing it. The beauty, lack of chaos and utter peace there was so different from the humble street where we lived that it felt like another world. And I swear I *remembered* that other place as a kid and longed for it like a homesickness. I still do.

    Now I go up into the Piedmont Hills to walk among Revival mansions and gorgeous flowers and wonderful old trees. It looks so much like the scene I saw out the window when I was taken to visit with my son a couple of weeks after his death. Privately, I literally think of my walks there as "going to Heaven for an hour."

    So for me it's not just the joyful reunions with all the people I've loved and lost, it's also just the thought of immersing myself in that beauty and peace and not having to come back to earthly "reality" that I look forward to. I agree with what was said above about each of us experiencing our own Heaven when we first cross over. Many, many spirits have communicated that to mediums. And one of my favorite moments in the TV show Supernatural was when the angel Castiel shared that the place he retreated to when life here on earth got to be too much for him was the small, serene private Heaven of a mentally disabled man. I found that touching and charming, even though in reality I think that disabilities are not carried over into the afterlife.
  13. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    That's lovely, Widdershins. :) Thank you for sharing it. It's good that your walks make you feel more at peace.

    I love Supernatural, though I haven't watched the last couple of seasons of it yet. Castiel is a wonderful character, and I didn't know that about him retreating to that particular person's heaven when existence got to be too much for him (though, like you, I would think -- and hope-- that the man would no longer be mentally disabled, in the afterlife).
  14. Widdershins3

    Widdershins3 Active Member

    I have a friend who's a fellow fan of that series who swears I must have just read that Castiel scene in fan fiction, but I think I saw it in an episode: there was the man (I think) flying a kite in the breeze by the ocean and Castiel a little ways off in the sand dunes. Which reminds me, that friend and I have talked about what we'd like in an afterlife and they would prefer life in a cottage by the sea in a place that "feels like England." And one of my best friends loves the desert and wants to roam one on the Other Side, something that's beyond my understanding. I crave lushness of foliage and big trees with thick canopies.

    But from what I've read in mediums' books, we can visit each other with just a wish, no matter where in the afterlife we land. There might be an exception for someone temporarily caught in what some astral travelers have called "The Belief Territories" though, where fundamentalist religious folks go. To see something other than the Christian Heaven with clouds, harps, throne of God, etc. might be very destabilizing for a true believer.
  15. jimrich

    jimrich Active Member

    Just like it actually is right now!....which is why it is also labeled "Heaven". I cannot convince you or anyone that the afterlife is pretty much exactly how you want or imagine it will be so I'll just say that it's WONDERFUL, LOVELY and more BEAUTIFUL & HAPPY than anything that I can describe from this physical plane. Just read some of James Van Praagh's books to get an insight into the nature and character of Heaven or the afterlife. good luck......
  16. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    I can understand different people wanting different seasons or locations in an afterlife. Personally, I love forests and Ireland and autumn weather, whereas my husband loves the beach and summer -- so if there is an afterlife in which we are able to exist as we choose, then he & I will have to have my ideal locale/environment on one side of our house, and his on the other, lol. Or possibly two homes. :)
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  17. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    As I read your ideas, bb, I saw in my mind's eye how it might be for you and your husband who you miss so much.

    A home facing the beach and ocean as your 'front yard' for your husband and for you forest and hills stretching away in the opposite direction for a 'back yard'. Perhaps like certain parts of the California or Oregon coast with spring/summer at the 'front' of your home and fall at the back. :)

    The 'climate' in each would be as you want it to be, a reflection of your personal preferences. Your wishes, your thoughts, will create the conditions and surroundings locally to yourselves but anyone else will be able to share them if that's what you want. Naturally, because you love one another, you'll each sometimes share one other's surroundings.

    Your home will be for both of you and will be just the way you want.
  18. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    Thank you, mac. :) That is exactly what we want, my husband and I. We will spend some days in the front yard, some in the back, or split a given day between the two, but always together.
  19. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    I'm not sure I'm going to get conditions just the way I want them. I keep hearing you get indirect lighting constantly. I didn't ask for that, but do I get a choice?
  20. pandora97

    pandora97 Active Member

    LOL.......Maybe if you ask nicely:D
  21. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I find it interesting to consider how stuff might work in this regard. :cool:

    From accounts related by those actually 'over there' we have indeed heard that the light is even and indirect. That's hard to understand when all we experience here (naturally) is light from the sun whose intensity is probably fairly constant but which we perceive as ever changing and highly directional. But when we're 'over there' there we won't see that sun (if we see any sun at all) and to experience changing light we presumably have to imagine it for ourselves, our thoughts somehow impacting our local environment to bring about the desired lighting effect. I am - of course - having to make a guess about this!

    In communal areas I imagine the conditions are brought about by joint-action and it's maybe these steady-state conditions, perhaps experienced by most individuals, that we have heard about. To address your question then, gene, yes you do get a choice but you have to be the instrument for the choices you make.
  22. genewardsmith

    genewardsmith Active Member

    I've read that you can retreat inside and tone things down if desired.

    The communal nature of life over there is one of the two reasons I am skeptical about the idea that you can get anything you want. I suspect there are limits. I certainly hope there is something to replace computers and the Internet, though. I've not heard anything of the sort, aside from something in one of the A D Mattson books where he goes somewhere where some sort of automated research was possible, and got a report.
  23. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    On a local level I expect your environment will largely be under your control.

    I have never subscribed to the notion that we can have anything we want. To me that's nonsensical and it's a discussion/debate I've had with folk here in the past. The key is that whatever you want you have to create it by the power of your thought and you have to have the understanding how to do it. Maybe one's ability is one significant limiting factor but I expect there will be many others.

    The communal nature of the dimension we'll find ourselves in I find easy to accept as it's something that's been around forever hence is permanent. Perhaps even that we'll be able to tailor at a local level to suit our own wishes? In 'Flying High In Spirit' Mikey Morgan tells us about his snowboarding activities, something that needs snow, something I expect many others will enjoy too. So that particular environment is - I suggest - one that is permanent even though snow doesn't fall naturally as it does in parts of this world or for the same reasons. It's a communal environment created, and perhaps maintained in perpetuity, by individuals far more spiritually advanced than we although perhaps we can contribute to it a little and/or adapt it to our personal desires. I find the possibilities fascinating to contemplate and before long I'll be finding out first-hand if I was anywhere near right!

    Maybe what we're seeing with the world wide web and the devices we deploy to access it is a pale imitation of systems that have been used for unimaginable 'time'. Not the hardware and software used here and now but something we can't even begin to comprehend, something we'll access without keyboards or touchscreens or any kind of mechanical/electronic device. Accessed in a similar way to that used to create by thought the things we think we'll want. And again such systems will have been around forever or at least as long as our universe/multiverse/omniverse has 'been around'.

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