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Idols/Religous Jewelery/FEAR

Discussion in 'Spiritual Growth & Development' started by Litsa, Aug 28, 2018.

  1. Litsa

    Litsa New Member

    Hi All,

    It's been 7 months since my Mom passed away. Since, I have given all cloths for donation. It was very hard too.

    I was raised Orthrodox and that means you get baptized and BAM you are presented with a gold cross that will PROTECT your for the EVIL...

    I was raised on guilt from religious priest and orthodox religion all my life that is until, I started my research many years ago and then found Roberta Grimes....

    Going back, I have bought many of gold, silver crosses that I don't even wear at all....I bought them because of protection and obession...I have Aspergers syndrome....I really believed they were protecting me...

    My Mom has some nice gold crosses as well...Though she was not a religious zealot but just liked to wear them..

    Since my Mom has passed...I have been out of work for 5 months and at the age of 50 years old and 15 job rejections...I am need money....

    I have been a rocker chick, that had to sell my two guitars to pay bills....But, I am getting deseperate and want to sell my gold crosses I no longer wear...But that FEAR, OCD says if I do, God will punish me...I know this is wrong...I also want to sell my Mom's...I gave a lot of her jewerly to my family members, but, there are only so many crosses or rings you can give....

    I am stumped and I am thinking that maybe Roberta, or someone on this forum can help me out with this stupid fear....

    Any advise would be nice.

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  2. Kurt

    Kurt Major Contributor

    I constantly have fear. Even when I think I don't it bubbles back up. You sound like a lovely person and I understand where you are coming from. Fear Is something so deeply ingrained into us that it is hard to get rid of.

    Do what your heart tells you is best. If your mind is conflicted, seek resolution. I hope that you will find a good answer. I will try to see if I can get Roberta for you. The email on her website usually does the trick. Look out for answers from Mac, Monika, GeneEdwardSmith, Bill Z, Pandora97, Ravensgate and Roberta Herself. They are Uber advanced spiritually and have great advice.

    I wish I could help you more. I lost the fear because the person I loved convinced me to.

    Roberta helped me rationalise it though!!!! Thank God for sending her forums my way!!!!
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  3. pandora97

    pandora97 Established Member

    Roberta is probably the best one to help you. Sorry you're having such difficulties. I too sometimes struggle with my Christian upbringing.o_O
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  4. Litsa

    Litsa New Member

    Kurt & Pandora97 the youboth of your responses.

    It's hard to give up the brain washing of religion and everything....I thought I was over it...

    Selling religious jewelry I no longer wear and believing it protects me and or gives me good luck is horrible..

    The worst though is selling my Mom's jewelry...I guess I will meditate...Maybe I can ask my Mom who I know must be having a wonderful time in the afterlife...She was a GREAT lady....

    Maybe she can guide me on what to do....I LOVE her so much...I would feel ashamed to sell them...But, maybe if I can stop crying long enough and listen she might say it's okay...Sell them..

    Last edited: Aug 29, 2018
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  5. Kurt

    Kurt Major Contributor

    I don't know about her jewelry... That would be painful.. .

    But it's your choice.

    Religious brainwashing is like a fire in a coal mine... It just never goes out...

    Thanks Kalo,
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  6. pandora97

    pandora97 Established Member

    Maybe if you keep one special piece of mom's that she favored and sell the others it would be a little easier. Also, I'm sure your mom would tell you to do whatever you need to do to take care of yourself. Just as she would if she were still here to take care of you.:) She knows how much you love her and she would never want you to feel ashamed over selling her things. She no longer needs or wants them and she wants you to be happy.
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  7. Bill Z

    Bill Z Established Member

    I am sorry for what you are going through. I was raised Roman Catholic and it took so long to break from the IMO fear porn they inflict. Morality is one thing but there is little or non of that in much of what I've experienced with the church. It is control like much of society tries to dictate.

    Kalo, I do not believe a loving God (Goddess whatever we refer to this entity as) punishes.

    I too have given away so much that belonged to the love of my life and myself but kept a few things. I have given them away to people who need and will cherish them so I have lost nothing only with the help of the love of my life helped enrich others and pass Her eternal love to others.

    I wish you the very best in your situation. Peace.
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  8. Monika

    Monika Established Member

    Hej, i am really sorry for your loss and your fears. It is very harsh to read what you wrote about fears you are facing :( But i do know that fears we can overcome if we only wish to. No one else can do this for us just us by ourselves. At least thats my experience.
    About all golden crosses and their protection. Maybe you could choose the only one most beautiful and most important for you as an item what works as protection and just sell all others with easy hand especially if you have small issues with money? I mean when you think about that so does more of them protect you better than single one? Quality against qauntity :) And about things what your mother owned and now you own probably none of us would dear to give you an advise as this is so personal and your heart will know what to do with help of your mother. Just take time no rush and everything will come into places.
    By myself i live alone after my husband passed away and i have all his clothes nicely put in the shelves. I moved to this flat after he passed away with all his things till single one. I shared closets for myself and for him. Why i should give his clothes away if i have a lot of space and i really like to wear his sweaters like i used before. Why i should live with half empty shelves. Of course some people ask me why i keep his things. I just ask them why not? If it makes me feel comfortable? Thats all about me and how i feel. Not about somebody else. Please look into yourself, listen into your heart and you will find all the answers and solutions.
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  9. Litsa

    Litsa New Member

    Hi All,

    I am touched with the caring and warm responses I have gotten on my post. I feel so alone at times and trying to get through the loss of my Mom. Like so many on this forum who have had love ones pass before them...It can be tough. At least my Mom live to a good age and I can't even imagine those of you who have lost your husband or wife...

    Moinka, I had my Mom's cloths for many months before I gave them away. It was hard to as well but I donated them to a people in need...I kept her gray sweater that she used to wear. I still have her cute little slippers that I can't part with...Its tough, and if you feel comfortable keeping your husband's cloths then don't listen to what anyone says....KEEP his cloths if it gives you comfort...

    Bill Z, I totally understand what you are saying about religion. I hope, but, I doubt, religion will see the true God and not brainwash people at a young age with fear and rituals...

    Thanks for all your help
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  10. mac

    mac Staff Member

    What a wonderful analogy! I'm a little more gentle as I say 'religious conditioning' but it boils down to a similar thing.... I think it's less-bad here in the UK as in the USA but I could be wrong.

    I also think the damage begins in school, children taught mumbo-jumbo religious notions by educators with no real understanding of death let alone what happens next. Yet religion gets delivered in the same way as the fundamentals based on facts as in science and math. Those notions continue to be taught through adolescence into adulthood, reinforced by church teachings, ceremonies and rituals. The cycle may be hard to break free of.

    It must be hard for many/most individuals to clear such dross from their psyche and it's little wonder some are fearful of trying an alternative way.
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