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Ian Stevenson

Discussion in 'Afterlife Evidence' started by zilch, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. Wanttobelieve

    Wanttobelieve New Member

    https://www.nrk.no/delta/rolf-erik-is-dead_-but-he-would-like-to-get-in-touch-with-you-1.13101164

    Do you realize that this experiment is finished and that NO medium/psychic could guess even a single element of Rolf Eriks letter?

    https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com...close-to-guessing-a-dead-mans-secret-message/

    If at least one person had seen a plane, this would have been a proof for paranormal abilietis and/or the afterlife.

    Remember, we sceptics really want to believe. I wish my Dad was somehow, somewhere, still alive. I miss him so much.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2019
  2. Ruby

    Ruby Established Member

    I had a reading in January, my first, which worked well for me. The medium wasn't even looking at me, so no cold reading, but off to one side and seemingly engaged in watching something when the evidential information came through. There wasn't that much as the spirit in question only arrived ten minutes before the end (typical!) But I was aware of the pitfalls, and there not being that much, I was careful not to forget about anything which didn't ring true. She said at the start she had to "take my energy" and spent a few minutes with her eyes closed. I sat there thinking I'm an idiot to have been duped like this. She started off talking about my grandmother, which for me indicated that she thought it likely that at my age I'd have lost that generation, but maybe not my parents. But then she said a strong male energy had entered the room and there was this quick burst of evidential information, while she smiled and laughed and said he was a happy personality. With this remote test from Norway you refer to, it therefore poses the question of how much the sitter's mind is involved in the reading. As well as, of course, the other parties. It's very disappointing when these public tests fail.
     
  3. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Every public test fails. Every time. Spirit will not perform for us; we certainly have learned that by now! We can learn what actually is going on only if we are willing to approach Spirit on Spirit's terms.
     
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  4. mac

    mac Staff Member

    Why have you become a member here?
     
  5. ChrisGreece

    ChrisGreece New Member

    IMHO First love is needed . Second faith. Third no interference.Fourth will or need is needed. Fifth you need to ASK the divine.Then God will perform Miracles just for you.
    Interfering with other people belief is an act of karma.God (replace with great spirit UNIsource or LOVE) will not grant you a miracle when the belief of others
    is threatened.That is why it is said that silence is one of the four pillars of Solomon temple. That is why it is said that
    The Lips of Wisdom Are Closed Except To The Ears of Understanding . Spirituality is something to be earned with faith or by asking help from God.
    Spirituality is not a commodity. It is a privilege that you have to work very hard for. You pay with faith , praying , trusting the divine. It is not a hamburger not a commodity.
    You have to earn it . Sorry for the rant.
    Edit/Ok my post is a little offensive and immature. I am sorry for this. I should have been more polite.Still my view is the same./edit
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2019
  6. poeticblue

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  7. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    Hi Roberta! This is an issue with me. I'd like things presented before me on a golden carpet! I know it can't be like that here. Do you think it would be counter-productive?
     
  8. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Kim, the wonderful Michael Tymn has lately brought to light new information about the problem of why the dead seem to be unable to remember "secret words" they had agreed to remember and later deliver when they were on their deathbeds. I had long thought that there was control by Spirit over our ability to provide this level of certainty - of proof of our survival - to people on earth, but instead the dead have let us know that the problem is the simple fact that in order to communicate with us through a medium, the dead have to draw near enough to the earth's vibration that we lose contact with the larger mind that we reconnected with at death. When we are in contact with that larger mind, we have no trouble remembering the word! Then we draw close to the earth so we can deliver it, so again we are back in a limited version of our mind (as was true when we were in a body), and we therefore again forget the magic word. How is that for a Catch-22?
     
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  9. kim

    kim Regular Contributor

    This sounds as though someone on their deathbed may slip in and out of consciousness? It causes me to wonder because when I was unconscious, experiencing the NDE, things were so good, but then I was on my own to wake up and things turned out to be not to my liking. Is this because I was drawing close to my earthly body to wake up from the coma?
     
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  10. mac

    mac Staff Member

    I asked Mikey recently about the way memory works 'over there', about things our memories retain after we've passed over, about what we retain, what we can access, what still is of importance etc.

    One might think because a code or word was considered important before someone passed - as a means of demonstrating their survival - that the code or word would remain within one's psyche ie retained and accessible similarly to other important information it appears we do hang on to. It seems that's not the case but trans-dimensional communication is so unpredictable and uncertain anyway it would be hard to establish a set of empirical values relating to memory that could be tested.
     

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