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I was wondering...

Discussion in 'Spiritual Growth & Development' started by Kurt, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. Kurt

    Kurt Well-Known Member

    Is it possible that all if the pain in the world is good? It helps people advance Spiritually and besides, if it was not for it, then society would not collapse. And if it does not collapse, then there can be no better system to follow.

    I believe that this is called the growing pains that Roberta referred to elsewhere, but hey, I could be wrong.

    My main thing is that I am convinced it is necessary for there to be a complete collapse of society. Is this true?

    All opinions are appreciated.
     
  2. mac

    mac Staff Member

    A healer I greatly admired used to say something to the effect that pain and suffering were not something to be accepted as desirable or normal. He used all his efforts to ameliorate the pain of those who approached him for help in his healing capacity.
     
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  3. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    The negativity is useful for us to push against, but it is not desirable. And I don't know what you mean by societal collapse, but I am told that is a risk but it is not an outcome to be desired!
     
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  4. bluebird

    bluebird Regular Contributor

    In my opinion: No, not all of the pain in the world is good. I would venture to say that most of it is not good. Maybe some of it can help some people advance spiritually, but in my view most of it is not worth it.

    Please clarify -- you believe that society would collapse if it were not for pain, or if it were not for spiritual advancements? or you believe that because of pain society will collapse?

    In any case, I do not believe a complete collapse of society is necessary. Why would it be? And necessary for what, exactly?
     
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  5. Kurt

    Kurt Well-Known Member

    I feel like society will collapse due to pain and that that could cause Spiritual advancement.
     
  6. bluebird

    bluebird Regular Contributor

    Thank you for the clarification.
     
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  7. EminenceFront

    EminenceFront Member

    All pain is an experience that was chosen not thrust upon us. If we choose painful experiences, then we must have a relevance, a reason. In that light all pain is "good".
     
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  8. EminenceFront

    EminenceFront Member

    If it is part of your chosen experience, then your society will collapse. If it is not, then it will not.
     
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  9. bluebird

    bluebird Regular Contributor

    I disagree. Perhaps some people sometimes choose to undergo a painful experience in order to learn or for whatever reason, but there is no proof that all pain was chosen. Your view on this is a matter of opinion, as is mine.
     
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  10. EminenceFront

    EminenceFront Member

    Is Life living through you or to you?

    If the latter, then it is understandable how you feel. If the former, then you are responsible for what you experience. Including how you feel.

    There are no other choices.
     
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