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Hitler

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Kurt, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. Kurt

    Kurt Well-Known Member

    Any info. on his afterlife? I am sure it is well documented. We have discussed Bundy and UBL. I say we focus on him next.
     
  2. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Kurt, I have heard just one mention of Hitler, so I offer this just as an anecdote. It is reported that with counseling he was able to forgive himself because the evil that he created was pretty much entirely carried out by others. Those who ran the concentration camps, on the other hand - those who carried out his cruelty - put themselves into horrendous afterlife torment in the outer darkness. There, each of these lost souls is being ministered to and urged to forgive himself by his victims. I don't know if this is true, but it rings true to me.
     
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  3. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    I’ve read that he written in his spiritual chart to conduct atrocities in order to indirectly bring human kind together. It almost seemed as if he didn’t want to reincarnate to make it happen, but he did it anyways knowing the backlash and consequences.

    Furthermore, he spent some time in the lower levels of the astral realm trying to make sense of what he chose to do and the lessons to have been learned. Eventually, he did ascend to a higher level of the afterlife after forgiving himself.
     
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  4. Ruby

    Ruby Active Member

    Words fail me!
     
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  5. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    Would you mind explaining why you're saying that?
     
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  6. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    Well I can understand that it’s hard to fathom Hitler being in the Summerlands. But he didn’t just arrive there with a handful of gift baskets and opening arms. It took time for him to forgive himself for what he had done. He spent a lot of time in isolation in the lower levels of the afterlife (supposedly) . So it was no picnic for him when he crossed over.
     
  7. Ruby

    Ruby Active Member

    I can't, it's just too crazy (to my mind). People are still suffering today the repercussions of Nazi Germany, but glad he was "able to forgive himself because the evil he created was pretty much entirely carried out by others", yes, under pain of death if they refused to obey orders.
     
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  8. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    You could just as easily add Pol Pot, Ceasescu or Ho Che Min to this thread - or pick some other despot of your own.

    What did the animating spirits of human monsters like these men (never females!) think about the things they did as incarnates? Were their actions planned in the world of the spirit beforehand and orchestrated for ultimately beneficial effects? Were they the actions of mentally-ill individuals who lacked full control of themselves? Or might it have been they were just incarnates we consider 'evil', men who delighted in the things they did to other men and women or at least felt nothing about the hurt they caused?

    I would have the deepest reservation about any explanation of their actions and their 'fate' after they had passed over. Who could one trust claiming to know? Certainly not a regular practitioner who would be unable to authenticate the identity of a discarnate believed to have been the animating spirit of such a monster. Anyone could claim anything but be unable to produce unequivocal evidence of their communicator's identity.

    We'd be blindly accepting any old guff unless it were certain to have come from the likes of the spirit teachers and guides of old - any modern-day ones around?
     
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  9. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    I completely understand. I use to internship at a holocaust museum and often would find myself upset and wonder how the most despicable acts could have been carried about by one man. But it wasn’t just him, other people had their role in it as well. Folks just as worse as him.

    I also know this won’t help, but Hitler I believe was also abused as a child. Not using that as an excuse at all but watching a documentary about his childhood almost made me feel sorry for him.

    But anyways... many lives were lost and they rest peacefully in the afterlife, and those who did survive came out stronger.
     
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  10. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    No his afterlife is not well documented because nobody could know any such details. They could guess and produce any number of theories but theories is all they'd be. We know nothing about Bundy either or anyone similar for that matter.
     
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  11. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    Well said...

    On that note, I will relieve myself of this thread. Something tells me this subject will be beaten to death.
     
  12. Kurt

    Kurt Well-Known Member

    Yes but we can plausibly speculate on it.
     
  13. Kurt

    Kurt Well-Known Member

    Would you mind giving me a source?
     
  14. poeticblue

    poeticblue Moderator

    I will not comment on this further.
     
  15. bluebird

    bluebird Well-Known Member

    I absolutely agree. Any theories or opinions are conjecture.
     
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  16. Ruby

    Ruby Active Member

    bluebird! I love you!
     
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  17. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    But that's not what you'd actually said and speculation is often guesswork, somewhat different from "well-documented".
     
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  18. Kurt

    Kurt Well-Known Member

    I just found a collection of pretty consistent interviews that show that most super evil people in this world are actually quasi angelic entities here under Spiritual contracts

    Is this more proof of societal collapses being a necessity for Spiritual growth?
     
  19. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    no
     
  20. pandora97

    pandora97 Well-Known Member

    Have I missed something somewhere? When did this become necessary?:confused:
     
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