1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Afterlife Forums is an online, interactive community designed to give seekers direct access to prominent researchers, to afterlife literature, and to one another in order to foster both spiritual growth and public interest in life after death.


Discussion in 'General Afterlife Discussions' started by VioletRose, Jul 15, 2011.

  1. Craig's latest blog post establishes pretty firmly that the soul (or self, or whatever) is genderless. I would have to think, though, that most people in the Summerland level would have a gender identity of some kind, even if it was merely whatever gender they had in their most recent incarnation. Am I wrong?

    If so, would this have an impact on the sexual identity of whoever they become in their next life? In other words, could a person with a gender identity disorder simply be a person who has switched genders since their last lifetime?
  2. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    Hi VioletRose! You are correct: in the Summerland most people do choose a gender after death and a good amount of people will keep the same gender and general body that they had in their last earth lifetime. We can, however, choose to be either gender and choose any body that we had from any of our lifetimes. After the Summerland, in Levels 6 and 7, we begin to lose the illusion of gender, along with the illusion of the self altogether.

    I would say that the gender we chose to be after death won't affect the gender we choose to be in another lifetime. You see, linear time doesn't exist in the Summerland, and highly advanced beings tell us that all of our lives are really being lived at once. One being suggests that we think of our higher self as a large bucket of water. Each time we reincarnate onto earth, a little bit is poured out, but the majority of the higher self remains aware and united with God. That coupled with the idea that our earthly gender is probably chosen to help us learn certain lessons, leads me to believe that what gender we chose to be after death doesn't affect us in the next life.

    That being said, most people, if they thought they could learn from it, would probably have no problem being either gender in an earth life. You see, once you no longer have a physical body, despite the fact that you may retain a gender for a while, you're not as strongly linked to it as you may be during earthly life. Plus, there is no evidence that you have to keep the same gender for all of eternity (or the same body). It seems logical that, if you got tired of one form or gender, you could change.

    It's also important to note that, in the Summerland, social norms don't exist. No one really cares what gender or face you take on because they can identify you by your self. If you decide to change your gender and not keep the one from this life, no one is going to gossip about it or mock you. Those things simply don't exist in the Summerland. Everyone will be incredibly understanding!

    In my opinion, and this is just my opinion mind you, people with gender identity disorders probably could have had the opposite gender in their previous earth life. I think it is more than that though. Since there is no linear time, I would say that this occurs in people who have had only one gender for most of their lives. For example, if someone is female in all lives except one, in that single life he may feel as though he is meant to be a female because it is what he's used to.

    I hope this answers your question, dear VioletRose!
  3. I suppose it's just because I never thought about it, but until reading this I always assumed that gender was a transcendent quality. It makes sense that people who don't have a need for sexual reproduction or familial pair-bonding wouldn't have any distinct sexual characteristics, though. On that note, I do have to disagree with your opinion on reincarnation being at the root of gender identity disorders, as there are currently known to be several different varieties that occasionally include distinct brain anatomy patterns. If it were merely a matter of choosing to be one gender more often than another, I doubt it would manifest in so many different ways. Plus, that sort of hardship seems like exactly the kind of thing we would "plan" for our spiritual growth.
  4. Gospel of Thomas 22:
    Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to His disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the Kingdom." They said to Him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the Kingdom?" Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the Kingdom]."
  5. That's a very interesting passage you've found, Vic, although I'm not really familiar with the gospel of Thomas. If I'm reading it right, the basic idea is that our spiritual "bodies" are homogeneous, genderless, and completely mutable form. I guess it does make more sense for physical and mental gender divisions to be left out of any higher spiritual existence, since we probably don't bother taking along our fingernails, eyelashes or small intestine, either ;)

Share This Page