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Fourth Medium Reading Today

Discussion in 'After-Death Communication' started by DenverGuy, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. DenverGuy

    DenverGuy Active Member

    Today I had a 2-hour session with a medium certified by the Forever Family Foundation. This was my fourth medium session. They have all been with different people (by phone). The first one delivered some accurate information.

    Well, today I was really looking forward to it. I held one of my girlfriend's gloves during the session, and I had her photo with me and the box of ashes.

    It was a total waste of time filled with generalizations, the overall feeling that there was no connection, and tons of irrelevant, frustrating, and wrong information. I hung up feeling crushed and very sad.

    I don't understand how that stuff works. Once they know who we're trying to reach, why can't they just say that it's not working now if it's not, and that we should try again later, instead of all of the needless anguish and wasted time?

    It's hard enough that we lose the most important person in our life. Why does it have to be so damn hard to communicate with them?

    I don't know whether to go back to the first medium or not. The idea of cycling through new ones and going nowhere is not appealing. I hate to say it, but I also wonder if this is even real.

    Sorry, today I feel more hopeless and lost than ever. Any suggestions would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks!
  2. milahanna

    milahanna Member

    I'm so sorry Denverguy. I wish I could offer advice but I'm facing the same struggle. I don't understand why it's so easy for some to reach their loved ones who have passed and then others, such as us, struggle. How many more times must we ask or visit a medium? I don't at all feel like he owes me a response but I'm hurting. I need him more than ever and I feel completely abandoned. The man I knew wouldn't let me feel this way so why is he? So many around me are getting signs and as a result experiencing great comfort. I'm just sitting her crying and wondering where he has gone and what's wrong with me.
  3. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    I'm sorry and sad for both of you! To be frank, I went to about a dozen mental or spiritual mediums when I was doing basic afterlife research - a few of them very expensive - and I got so little from them that for more than a decade I basically thought they all were charlatans. And the worst part for me was all the garbage generalities! Who do these people think they're kidding? Then I met Susanne Wilson of Carefree, AZ, who in my opinion is the best spiritual medium on earth. She is consistently amazing! Unfortunately, she is no longer taking new clients for readings. However, the only one I tried fifteen years ago who seemed to me to be any good was Susan Sanderford, who seems still to be doing readings. Go to Susansanderford.com if you would like to check her out. I haven't been read by her lately, but I think I'm going to have to do that and see if perhaps I can recommend her!
  4. DenverGuy

    DenverGuy Active Member

    Hi Milahanna and Roberta. I wrote to the medium and she sent me a long response.

    I started to read it but had to stop, as I am at work. I get too emotional. I did hear two things over the sad weekend that I wanted to share.

    First, the biggest problem with this is the absence of his/her presence. Very accurate.

    Second, I watched an Abraham Hicks video in which the speaker said something along the lines of: "When you imagine talking to the person you have lost, or are feeling a huge wave of grief, maybe that's coming from the other side!"

    I never thought of that! It's comforting, if true.
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2017
  5. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    On another website where I'm a regular its owner had recently visited a medium in London, UK, someone reputed to be upcoming and reputable. She posted an account of her sitting and it made interesting reading, its outcome very much different from what's been related above/below. (depending on how your browser works)

    I realize that doesn't help anyone in North America but it may illustrate that it's important to keep trying, and perhaps use someone recommended rather than just sticking a pin in a page. And do try to establish beforehand whether the practitioner is a psychic (medium) or a (spiritual) medium. Choose the latter for preference.
  6. RobertaGrimes

    RobertaGrimes Administrator

    Mac, is this London medium doing readings for the public? If yes, will you please let us know who it is? Distance is no barrier to a reading by phone, and if she is good then I would love to include her on my recommendations page!
  7. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I don't know the answer to that, Roberta and the medium's a guy.

    I'll take a look later this evening to see if I can find out some more details but I may have to write to her to get them so it's gonna be tomorrow in the UK before she gets to read my message.

    Leave it with me...:)
  8. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

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  9. ShingingLight1967

    ShingingLight1967 Active Member

    Milihanna and DenverGuy...

    I know I have discussed this before. I have had 3 readings last year with 3 different mediums. I know I have expressed my feelings on how my logical mind always tries to find the logical answer as to how these mediums have gathered information, that is truly just the way my mind works. But what I have to say.. is that the 3 mediums I have sat with have made me really think long and deeply about this entire subject.

    I know that Susanne Wilson, who I had the pleasure of sitting with is not accepting new clients... But I do need to say that a reasonable priced and wonderful medium is Julia Assante. She is easily accessible, she is reasonable in cost and she does do readings to communicate with loved ones who have passed.

    She was my first big reading, with a medium, and she is such a wonderful woman, she makes you feel at ease the minute she gets on the phone with you. Julia, hit on things that were so deeply personal between my husband and me, only 3 people knew about them. (me and my husband are included in that headcount) She also sends you an audio recording of your session, which is great, because you go back and review everything, which I think helps for the first time because the information flows so fast.

    She also has a book that I recommend reading. http://www.juliaassante.com/ In our reading in if I remember correctly she discusses how extreme emotions actually can help in communications with our loved ones. Something that I have recently experienced was the emotional time I had with my wedding anniversary. As I lost it the night of our anniversary, I believe I distinctly felt my husband here with me, trying to comfort me as I was breaking down. It was just a very intuitive feeling and a minds eye seeing of my husband as he comforted me.

    Roberta just did an interview with Julia on her podcast, and I suggest that you listen to it. It could very well give you some insight to maybe signs or communications that you are overlooking.
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  10. georgek

    georgek Member

    With all due respect, why did you have three readings with three different mediums?

    Or where you just wanting to make sure that you got to hear what pleased you?

    Be careful.

    Many of them are very good, and I could well be wrong.

    Generally this is big business for many, and they are trained to work on subjects.
    If they make you happy.....then perhaps that is a good thing?

    Just my thoughts.
  11. DenverGuy

    DenverGuy Active Member

    Good question, georgek. I did receive some information with the first reading. I wasn't sure if we should continue with the same one or not. I am checking into that. But yes, I am desperate for a connection.
  12. georgek

    georgek Member

    What a joy to meet a reasonable person!
    I wish you well 'shininglight196'

    There are some good ones out there, but an awful lot of bad ones who thrive on the suffering of others.

    I have seen some who can even pick out every name in a family and pinpoint a person's workplace.
    The bad ones let the good ones down.

    Just my thoughts and probably the last here...lol
  13. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I don't speak for the original poster but surely a seeker likely goes looking for answers? If the answers aren't found by consulting one practitioner then she/he may seek out another, and perhaps yet another, practitioner. There's no telling how many it may take before the seeker is satisfied she/he has done enough. Hence it's perfectly understandable that one, two, three or more may be consulted. Anyone not in a similar position may be unable to understand why. That is understandable.

    Caution may be advisable but there may be few choices and we may have to take a chance on who we consult. Money-making businesses abound in all walks of life and the maxim 'caveat emptor' applies to all.

    If we're happy with what we get then who's to say we're wrong?

    And if we're not happy then who has the right to question why we try elsewhere?
  14. georgek

    georgek Member

  15. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    What? On every aspect? wow!
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  16. georgek

    georgek Member

    Yes..because I am honest.

    Crikey...this is in every walk of life.

    If someone spends a fortune and gets the information they want, be it true or false and that makes them happy...are they capable of wanting to hear the truth if they cannot accept it?

    Truth hurts mac......and people will not accept it anyway.

    It means that they are not ready to accept.

    People will like you, for being like them. It is what we call 'natural selection'
    There will always be discord in all walks of life.

    I say:- "if that is what makes them happy and they are not hurting anyone...good luck to them, the fortune teller and his bank account and the client"

    As your remark about 'reading people' make no mistake, I can see them by touching my screen if I want to.
  17. georgek

    georgek Member

    Ooops HER bank account?

  18. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    You say you can read people by touching your screen if you want yet you couldn't quickly check and detect that Roberta is a woman???? Are you trying to insult my intelligence now?
  19. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    quote "People will like you, for being like them. It is what we call 'natural selection'
    There will always be discord in all walks of life."

    Ain't no risk for me then! lol, lol, lol
  20. ShingingLight1967

    ShingingLight1967 Active Member

    Why did I have 3 readings with 3 different mediums?

    I was going to post a response to this question, but backed off because I thought my response was a little harsh. so I edited my response. But in all honesty, I find it interesting that you are asking me why I had 3 readings with 3 different mediums when the original poster of this thread has also had 4 readings with 4 different mediums.

    But the reality of the matter is mac is correct, I am looking for answers to so many questions. I am looking for confirmation that my husband still exists... somewhere. Because my husband died suddenly, I didnt get to speak with him the day he passed actually, I was looking to make sure he was OK, where ever he is at. I then had some many other questions, especially because we never had a final conversation. I was and still am looking for those answers.

    Trust me, I understand that there are people out there that will take advantage of someone like me, in my position. But one of the first things that I did was my homework. Through this site, and several others, through books, through several other means I researched. Which is why it took 8 months before I had my first mediumship reading. For two mediums, I took the recommendations of people I trust, the 3rd my friend set up for both of us on a recommendation from a friend who is ALSO a medium on who to go to, who ended up being a recognized and vetted medium. I went to 3 to see if there was continuity between all the readings, meaning were there some aspects of the information that I received consistent. I wanted to see if experiencing a phone reading v. an in person reading are different and if the mediums would gather consistent information. I wanted to find answers.

    Did it make me happy or did what I heard please me? I dont think happy or pleased are the correct words. Did it give me peace? Some. Did it provide answers? A few, but brought up a whole bunch more. Am I happy? No, because there are still so many questions I am trying to understand.
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  21. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    great reply! :)
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  22. georgek

    georgek Member


    I think you have insulted your own intelligence. I can touch my screen and read like I say.

    I have another twenty more or so, and have never been wrong. Seen enough?
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  23. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    what a crock!
  24. ShingingLight1967

    ShingingLight1967 Active Member

    OK... I honestly dont understand what this BS between mac and georgek is all about. I think, honestly it is off-putting and being a lay person like myself, makes me think there is nothing to be gained from taking part in these discussions.

    DenverGuy was looking for some advice, some solace some words that will help him through his grieving of his beloved, who he is desperately trying to contact, to know that she is OK, to know that there is something more, to understand that maybe there is more than this world. I COMPLETELY understand where is and what he wants... i KNOW what he is searching for and this BS one-upsmanship, this trying to prove that one person is better than the other will not help.

    We, who have lost loved ones want to know that they are OK.. want to know that they survived, what to know that they miss us as much as we miss them, want to have some contact with them. Something that we can concretely hold onto that we know without a shadow of a doubt proves to us that they live on, they love us and that they will always be with us.

    DenverGuy, Milihanna, Bluebird and I are all looking and continue to look for evidence... concrete evidence that our loved ones survive death. We are broken and hurting and on a new path trying to find some absolute scrap of evidence that WE can trust and believe in that yes.. our loved ones survived, and this petty BS about who is better is just off putting and drives people who are novices and trying to find answers away.

    Yeah, this is my opinion of what I have seen on this thread.
  25. georgek

    georgek Member

    It is difficult to write constructively when some are trying to discredit and mock both you and your ability.

    I find it an intrusion on my points and character to have these consistent mockery jibes with most things that I say. Especially that I need some kind of psychiatric more times than once. We are not here for medical diagnosis. We are here to diagnose and debate subject matter. It came about with a slip about religion with admin. mac made his points about unwanted comments which have trailed from The Trinity post to this post here, in order to show his loyalty to admin.

    Sometimes a person has to stick up for themselves, as it is like being tapped with a pencil every time you speak.

    I have forwarded a good point towards this discussion only to be attributed by false accusations.

    If you are looking for evidence, read my other posts.
    Unfortunately with the paranormal, there is never going to be any evidence because people have already made up their mind, that there is no evidence.

    I can only do so much..and to try and give these things with onsets from mac is difficult. Hearing words like 'crock' and more besides.

    mac writes a lot and feels threatened so he ridicules me.
    I am merely sticking up for myself.
    I know this is not very good from your angle and I do apologise for it.
    The scapegoat will always be me, as I am sure mac will still be around for some time longer, well after I am gone

    Your love ones do survive.
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2017
  26. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I'll leave the members named to decide whether I've tried to be helpful and supportive towards them in the past.

    My view is that self-praise is no recommendation. My way is to address points directly, rather than rambling and blustering, believing that to be potentially more helpful. Where I write a lot it's generally in response to points made by others and rarely about me personally. Members may not, of course, think this is of any importance.

    What notice we choose to take of the words of others here on ALF is a personal choice but you won't find mac promoting himself with pages of text and/or old screen-captures. Members may not think this is of any importance of course.
  27. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    I apologise for having taken the thread off-topic but I was so appalled at what I was seeing and I allowed myself to react to it.

    I wouldn't change my response but I acknowledge it wasn't the right place to make it. Sometimes in life, though, we react spontaneously to situations we find unacceptable when good counsel would tell us to hold our tongue 'til another time and another place.

    Again I'm sorry I derailed the subject of the thread.
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  28. DenverGuy

    DenverGuy Active Member

    This is all I ask for... I wish a medium had just said this to me:

    "Mila says to do what you have to do to go through life. I will be here for you. I will love you as before, I will always be with you, I will know that you will love me, and I will see to it that we will be together forever when the time comes. Please know that, don't worry, believe it, and take comfort in that."

    I have mentioned that to the psychologist who I see twice per month. Her answer sent a good chill through me: "How do you know that you're not acting as your own medium?" Wow! Does that make sense?
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  29. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    It's certainly possible. There's a great interest in self-initiated contact rather than via a traditional practitioner.
  30. milahanna

    milahanna Member

    I long to hear this from him as well. The silence is crippling me and as hard as I try to remain positive and lean on the love we shared, I can't keep the fears away. I'm quickly reaching the point where I might give up. Not because I don't love him because I do, more than anything, but because I feel forgotten by him. I know that we are told that isn't the case but actions speak louder than words and so many people around me are receiving signs. If I'm truly honest with myself, I will admit that something is obviously wrong.

    What your psychologist said is very interesting though. Definitely something to think about.
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