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EVP accounts and discussions

Discussion in 'After-Death Communication' started by ekenda, Jul 1, 2016.

  1. ekenda

    ekenda Senior Member

    By initiating the session and pushing the "record" button, anyone using an electronic device as a means of receiving Spirit communication is acting as a medium by definition, whether through direct communication or ITC Station. The only difference between "Pure EVP" and what Andrew is doing is he is introducing fragmented audio as a means for Spirit to "speak" --Pure EVP requires Spirit to use only available frequencies to convey thought patterns.

    "A non-organic, inanimate translation device"... are you talking about his computer? Which device is it that you are referring to? Any digital recording device is dispassionately collecting frequencies coming in from the surrounding atmosphere.

     
  2. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    Hi Kenda! Thanks for trying our method--I saw the thread, but haven't had a chance to listen to your results yet; I look forward to doing so later! It might be helpful for you to check out this thread if you haven't already; many of us have discussed the process that I am using in great detail there. :)

    Actually, Mac is right--there are great differences between our two communication methods even though the procedure is relatively the same. We are communicating with actual stations on the afterlife levels; these are essentially buildings filled with machines that help the dead communicate with us. Instead of coming to the earthbound realm and trying to impress their non-physical voices on our recordings manually, they have special computer-like machines in the the stations that do the process for them by converting their thoughts into audible sounds. This is what Mac is referring to when he says a "non-organic, inanimate translation device;" he means their computers, not mine.

    Because of this, we need not develop any sort of mediumistic skill for this to work, and there is no need to have a team of spirits helping us--the general team working at the station does all the work for us; we just do the recording! Our voices seem to be helpful during the recording process itself, but otherwise there is no organic component. The recording equipment is the medium; I'm not, and they can record to a certain extent completely independent of my presence during the session. The dead researchers, many of whom were well-known and respected on earth, who are pioneering this project want every single human being to be able to pick up the phone--with no practice or experience--and be able to call his or her deceased loved ones, and that is indeed how this process seems to work!
     
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  3. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    Yes, of course, what I said was not meant to sound arrogant at all. I brought up the issues surrounding traditional EVP primarily because it can be dangerous to communicate with those in the earthbound realm--they are stuck on that plane of existence for a good reason, after all--and the fruits of such labor seem to be few and far between.

    I am new to the process, but as I mentioned above, the process has been designed by those in Spirit so that the earthly communicator has little to no effect on the communication clarity. You should also keep in mind that my English-language recordings are weaker, because the English-Language station is still in its infancy. If you happen to speak Portuguese, try listening to my Portuguese sessions; they are clearer. Sonia Rinaldi has been working with the Brazilian Station for years, so we are able to get excellent results from them.

    I'm sorry, but this is possible, actually. You can contact specific people, ask them questions to verify their identities, and then ask them what their respective levels are--assuming you have already gotten that information through other means. The responses you get will verify that they are, in fact, transitioned beings. That's just one method, but there are others. (And that is not to mention the fact that the Station has told us that it is impossible for earthbounds and other negative entities to interfere with the communication process.)

    I wholeheartedly agree with you that it is the content of the message that is most important; that is, however, the principal problem that I have with traditional EVP/ITC. The vast majority of what we hear--I have done quite a bit of EVP research, even though I don't record earthbounds myself--is either cryptic, chilling, or confusing. Occasionally, I have heard wonderful clips where a transitioned being has clearly returned to the earthbound to contact his or her loved ones, but that is relatively rare. Entities, such as the ones in "haunted" houses, generally have little spiritual advice to offer us; if they did, they would almost certainly be enjoying themselves in the Summerland right now.
     
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  4. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    Speaking of the content of the messages, I have watched a few more of your videos on YouTube, and I must admit that although I still cannot hear the responses at all--each of the replies sounds exactly the same to me, believe it or not--I do have some very serious concerns about the sort of information you are receiving. What I say below might once again seem strongly worded, but I am speaking bluntly because the sort of entities you may well be contacting can be dangerous, and you deserve to know that. It's your right to communicate with whomever you wish, but you should know that dangers, and that not everyone out there is of an enlightened mindset.

    For example, a spirit told you in your "Afterlife Answers" video about claustrophobia when you asked about awaking to find oneself in a coffin. I can say with absolute certainty that such a reply is nonsense. We leave the body at the very moment of physical death--sometimes just before, actually--and we quite literally never look back. Many people are unconscious at the time of death, but they awaken to find themselves in Summerland-level hospitals surrounded by loved ones and advanced beings. In reading hundreds of communications from the dead, spanning nearly two centuries, I have never once seen a single account of the deceased following his or her body to the grave. Assuming that was a legitimate reply, someone is toying with you.

    (I am also concerned by the fact that you are asking for predictions about future events, such as the 2016 election, and for famous people to come through. I'm sorry, but you are making it far too easy for earthbounds to poke fun at you! Asking materially-minded questions will attract materially-minded entities as a general rule. This is especially the case since you are not using any verification questions with the entities that allegedly reply to these requests--there's really no way to prove that a particular famous person is the true communicator, unless you knew him or her personally.)

    I'm truly not trying to be critical of you or your work, so please don't read this post in that way! I'm writing out of concern. It sounds to me, however, as though you don't have a lot of background information about the afterlife, and this lack of information has made you more susceptible to negative entities (i.e. because you can't tell when they're lying). I would suggest you read The Fun of Dying, written by our very own Roberta Grimes--it's the perfect, easy-to-read introduction to death and the afterlife, and you could then use that information to "fact-check" the spirits with whom you communicate.

    I'm sorry if what I've written here sounds arrogant or condescending to you--hopefully I've made it clear that any such effect is unintended--but I feel strongly that the above post needed to be written. When I listen to a lot of your videos, I get an eerie gut feeling, even though I don't hear the responses themselves. I never get that sort of feeling when I do my ITC work, and I think it is subconscious realization that the entities you're recording are fairly negative in terms of spiritual vibration.
     
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  5. mac

    mac senior member Staff Member

    For your general information, Kenda, when I speak about 'mediums' I'm speaking from the perspective of a Modern Spiritualist, a UK Spiritualist at that. [In the USA (my winter home) Spiritualism isn't exactly similar to what's found in the UK and I often make that point.]

    A medium, then, to this Brit. Spiritualist means a human being with attributes that allow her/him to communicate with discarnates, for example, clairaudiently or clairvoyantly or both. It doesn't mean someone who pushes a button on an electronic equipment. I already understand the difference between EVP, pure EVP and 'ITC with stations' and have recently referred to the last on several occasions.

    A description of the device I referred to may be found in Andrew's excellent description elsewhere. It's not his computer but an unspecified device 'over there' that appears to be a receiver for the messages sent to it telepathically by discarnates. Its unspecified m.o. appears to be that it then translates those into a form which then modulates the random electronically-generated 'gibberish' stored on a recording device in this dimension. On that recording certain incarnates can discern words, responses to questions asked. In general I can't; I think I don't have the necessary attributes or maybe it's just insufficient patience to keep trying.
     

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