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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire View Post
    If the requirement of Awareness indeed "moderate" then I find that a relief. Andrew brought up the inconsistencies with the timing of this, with some interesting observations. Is December 21, 2012 the day we must prepare for? I was looking at my calendar yesterday in contemplation, thinking "that will probably be a short day at the office (due to the upcoming holiday)" and hoping to be home with my husband at the time something monumental should occur.

    The sites I mentioned previously have comprehensively described the event, which is to happen in a flash, when the world's life as we know it will be completely altered, and we will all be given a choice to "continue to live in the illusion" or "evolve."
    Hi Sapphire! I speculated in my first post that the timing may be off, because there are several errors in our modern calendar. The Western calendar, as I'm sure you know, uses Jesus's birth as a starting point. So, Middle Age monks essentially counted backwards to Jesus's birth, relying on various accounts and the Bible for the timing. Over the years, scientists have been able to guess that Jesus probably wasn't born in 0 A.D., as one would think. Firstly, there is no 0 A.D., as I explained above, but it looks like they may have been off by up to six years.

    Here is one piece of the reasoning: If one were to look at the sky during the time period that should be 0 A.D., one would not see anything unusual. But, if one were to look between 12-6 A.D., one would see a Halley's comet, Uranus passing close to Saturn and Venus, as well as a supernova explosion. One of these is likely what was termed the Star of Bethlehem, which would date Jesus's birth. (It should be noted though that, just because there may be a scientific explanation for the star, doesn't mean that it wasn't of spiritual origins.) People have also tried to trace the dates through the ages and have come up with discrepancies just through the math as well.

    But, that is not to say that I am certain of the dating. It could be that, somehow, the Mayan calendar does end on our calendar's 21/12/12. I cannot be sure, and of course, I'm not an expert. I would actually hope that it ends sooner, rather than later, because it will be very exciting one way or another. Tammy (or at least the being whom she is channeling) seems to think that 21/12/12 is indeed the correct date, which makes me much more optimistic than I was previously about this particular year.

    So, I would "be prepared" for a shift in awareness this december, but I don't really think you have to do much to prepare. Just trust in Spirit - the rest will fall into place when it's time.
    "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path."

    -The Buddha

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire View Post
    I was under the impression that all of humanity needed to be prepared for this in some way, and to my dismay, despite the Internet's presence as well as many books, not one person I know has even mentioned this.

    If this is all the "prep" we need, then hopefully we should be in good shape.
    Aside from extremists who are preparing for some type of natural disaster which will destroy the human race, I too have read nothing about preparing for the "new age", as some call it. I think that the spiritual groundwork which is being laid is enough, even though a large portion of the earth's people probably have no idea that it is happening yet - that number is shrinking daily, after all. So, I agree that we should be in good shape. I also agree with Fasaga's post above, saying that, if given the choice, the human race will likely decide to evolve or start fresh. That would certainly be my choice.
    "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path."

    -The Buddha

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    Hi Sapphire! I speculated in my first post that the timing may be off, because there are several errors in our modern calendar. The Western calendar, as I'm sure you know, uses Jesus's birth as a starting point. So, Middle Age monks essentially counted backwards to Jesus's birth, relying on various accounts and the Bible for the timing. Over the years, scientists have been able to guess that Jesus probably wasn't born in 0 A.D., as one would think. Firstly, there is no 0 A.D., as I explained above, but it looks like they may have been off by up to six years.

    Here is one piece of the reasoning: If one were to look at the sky during the time period that should be 0 A.D., one would not see anything unusual. But, if one were to look between 12-6 A.D., one would see a Halley's comet, Uranus passing close to Saturn and Venus, as well as a supernova explosion. One of these is likely what was termed the Star of Bethlehem, which would date Jesus's birth. (It should be noted though that, just because there may be a scientific explanation for the star, doesn't mean that it wasn't of spiritual origins.) People have also tried to trace the dates through the ages and have come up with discrepancies just through the math as well.

    But, that is not to say that I am certain of the dating. It could be that, somehow, the Mayan calendar does end on our calendar's 21/12/12. I cannot be sure, and of course, I'm not an expert. I would actually hope that it ends sooner, rather than later, because it will be very exciting one way or another. Tammy (or at least the being whom she is channeling) seems to think that 21/12/12 is indeed the correct date, which makes me much more optimistic than I was previously about this particular year.

    So, I would "be prepared" for a shift in awareness this december, but I don't really think you have to do much to prepare. Just trust in Spirit - the rest will fall into place when it's time.
    Hi Andrew, thanks for your response!

    I feel a responsibility to tell my husband about all of this, and far be it from me to feel qualified to explain it - I'll refer him to some carefully-chosen Web-based information. Though he was also raised in a traditional Christian church (also Lutheran), he has shown a glimmer of open-mindedness to some things I have been mentioning as of recent. I think he will be receptive.

    I do believe Spirituality and the occurrences of the Solar System over the past couple of decades are closely linked (multidimensional parallel), based upon what I have been reading. "http://hiddenlighthouse.wordpress.com" has outlined very specific dates (such as 01/01/01, 02/02/02, etc.) on which there have been significant events. One such event was 10/10/10, when an unprecedented series of earthquakes happened in Arkansas. This was part of the Master Crystal Activations.

    Complicated, compelling, and fascinating! These Crystals were supposedly placed millenia ago in anticipation of these very events.
    "And since the day of femininity that is purely ornamental and utterly useless is gone by, it is the girl who does things well who finds life full of interests and of friends and of happiness."
    —Emily Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    I also agree with Fasaga's post above, saying that, if given the choice, the human race will likely decide to evolve or start fresh.
    But what could this be? A choice. To start afresh. I cannot imagine what and how it would be. What are your thoughts?

  5. #25
    Crystals?

    What proof? The Arkansas earthquakes were related to tracking just like the Ohio ones. This community is heading wayyyy too fast into pseudoscience. the internet is NOT a reliable source of information. Its hard to read this stuff and not offend, I do apologize. I am however losing interest in the forums again, so I apologize if I seem harsh.

    I should probably take a bit of a break from these forums. :[

    See you guys on January.

  6. #26
    Frackin lol..not tracking

    On another level that date is so insignificant. The boonies in Arkansas is way off the work grid of the other 7 billion people who don't live in the states.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by LachlanMac View Post
    Crystals?

    What proof? The Arkansas earthquakes were related to tracking just like the Ohio ones. This community is heading wayyyy too fast into pseudoscience. the internet is NOT a reliable source of information. Its hard to read this stuff and not offend, I do apologize. I am however losing interest in the forums again, so I apologize if I seem harsh.

    I should probably take a bit of a break from these forums. :[

    See you guys on January.
    Hi LachlanMac, I find this is all new as well, and I have no basis for proof of course. I don't take offense to your comment at all. I am only trying to relate the information available, and truth be told, my head is spinning a bit.
    "And since the day of femininity that is purely ornamental and utterly useless is gone by, it is the girl who does things well who finds life full of interests and of friends and of happiness."
    —Emily Post

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    I can tell you exactly, with 99% probability, what will happen on 21.12.12 -- absolutely nothing except for media hype and some members of the New Age lunatic fringe doing the usual: giving away all their possessions, committing mass suicide, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Then on 22.12.12 they'll say, "Hmm, we must have made a mistake in calculating the date."

    According to one archaeologist who has done research in Mayan writings there is a fudge factor in the date of about 200 years. Just like the dawning of the age of aquarius, supposedly started in the 1970s has a margin of error of about 200 years because the exact date that the earth enters a new zodiac sign based on its 26,000 year axis wobble cannot be pinpointed accurately.

    As far as humans being jump started by aliens from a different dimension -- the evidence is scant in my opinion, but I'm open minded and would not be surprised if there is some truth to this.

    Just my 2 cents worth.

    With Lovingkindness (metta),
    vic

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by vic smyth View Post
    I can tell you exactly, with 99% probability, what will happen on 21.12.12 -- absolutely nothing except for media hype and some members of the New Age lunatic fringe doing the usual: giving away all their possessions, committing mass suicide, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Then on 22.12.12 they'll say, "Hmm, we must have made a mistake in calculating the date."

    According to one archaeologist who has done research in Mayan writings there is a fudge factor in the date of about 200 years. Just like the dawning of the age of aquarius, supposedly started in the 1970s has a margin of error of about 200 years because the exact date that the earth enters a new zodiac sign based on its 26,000 year axis wobble cannot be pinpointed accurately.

    As far as humans being jump started by aliens from a different dimension -- the evidence is scant in my opinion, but I'm open minded and would not be surprised if there is some truth to this.

    Just my 2 cents worth.

    With Lovingkindness (metta),
    vic
    Like I said, if anything does happen on this date, it may not be seen as important for quite a while after the evidence. We really don't know. As I said above, I'm not really convinced that any event, which might occur, would actually occur on 21/12/12. I'm thinking it wouldn't happen until at least 21/6/2020, based on the known errors in our calendar, but that's all speculation on my part.

    In regards to extraterrestrials jump-starting civilization: The entities that would have done this were likely not inter-dimensional, but physical just like we are. Afterlife literature mentions inter-dimensional beings helping with spirituality, but they do not seem to be the same "type" of beings as were here in antiquity.

    I would say though, that there is far more evidence for extraterrestrial visitation in antiquity than for the afterlife, actually
    . Much afterlife evidence is rather anecdotal, although there is legitimate scientific evidence - that is not the case with the ancient astronaut theory. Obviously, one won't have many eye-witness accounts from thousands of years ago, but one finds quite a bit of archaeological evidence. (I have actually been researching extraterrestrial visitation for several years, long before I got involved in the afterlife field.)
    "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path."

    -The Buddha

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    But what could this be? A choice. To start afresh. I cannot imagine what and how it would be. What are your thoughts?
    I'm not really sure, to be honest. I hadn't thought of it this way, until Fasaga brought up the messages that Tammy has been receiving. Perhaps some type of direct, spiritual message, to a higher power, which humanity must answer. In any case, I think it would be a shame, if we passed up any opportunity we're given.
    "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path."

    -The Buddha


 

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