21 December, 2012 - What To Expect?

[Andrew]

http://www.revolutionof2012.net/2012andbeyond.html

http://hiddenlighthouse.wordpress.com

http://www.afterlife101.com

Fasaga, these are three of the sites I have been reading, and all seem to generally agree with the above about what is to soon occur. What I am perplexed about is why is so little known about it, and why no preparation has seemingly been done?

Alas, my friend, the scientific community rarely ever looks at things with an open enough mind to see the truth. Because of that, they understand/accept only a fraction of what humankind actually is aware of. A second, more devastating consequence, is that the mainstream world entirely ignores, if not ridicules, such information.

The good news is that preparation is being made. These discussions, right here, are a small part of that global shift of awareness that is occurring. All around the world, billions of people are being showered with spiritual signs, forcing them to acknowledge the greater reality. That's really all the preparation that the planet needs!

[Fasaga]

Hi Fasaga! Thanks for posting the message channeled by Tammy! See my comments on it below. I'm curious though why you specify 20 December? Are you implying a different event will occur than the one I'm researching, or do you mean that I have the date wrong?

Assuming the latter: I suppose such a spiritual event really could happen at any point. There have been so many errors in the Western Calendar that it is hard to tell what year we are actually in. So, I see no reason why, if something is planned for this year, it couldn't happen on the 20th instead of the 21st. I'm just curious where you get the 20th from? I have seen the 21st (sometimes the 21t-23rd) everywhere I've researched, and it is also the date most infamous among the general public, so that's the date I use. Like I said though, when talking about thousands of years, what's a day here and there?

I've just been corrected, we are both right, the 20th is the last day of this age and the 21st is the first day of the new age.

[Fasaga]

Hmm... very interesting message, Fasaga. Thank you for taking the time to type it all out here!

Firstly, I have a question about your comment about the "hitting of a reset button". The language you are using forces me to think of a flood or some other natural disaster which would, quite literally, give the surviving humans a clear slate. It has happened in the past: the flood story in Genesis appears in the myths of every ancient civilization from around the world, all with similar timelines. I am pretty certain that such an event did occur perhaps 11,000 years ago, but I remain unsure as to why. Anyway, did you mean for this connotation, or are you implying that we will be presented with the option to change?

Tammy's message is rather intriguing. The wording used throughout seems rather unique to me. It almost sounds like the entity is saying that we will be liberated (or will liberate ourselves) from some unseen force that has, hitherto, controlled us. That sounds very familiar to me, so I'll have to do some research on that. More tomorrow (hopefully I'll have time.

Thanks Andrew, fortunately I didn't have to retype it, it is as it was typed - cut and paste is a beautiful thing.

No disasters, no flood, no Armigedon, the "reset" is my figure of speach - put simply everyone has the opportunity to bury the past without repercussion and start afresh, let go of long burdening guilt, forgive past persecutions, step above all that has held us back from reaching our potential. This coincides with the clicking over of the Calendar. But remember - all is still a matter of choice, We can choose to carry on the way we are going if that is what the majority wants - which I don't believe is the case.

The force we are hoping to liberate ourselves from is Ego and Selfrightousness (those fundamental human traits that have got us where we are today) - Our Liberation will be in the direction of rightiousness, forgiveness and love, the good news is we will have all the help we want to accept, despite our personal belief (or non belief) systems. I don't think there is a man, woman or child on this Earth that doesn't want a better future for humanity regardless of their Religious stand point.

[Fasaga]

Alas, my friend, the scientific community rarely ever looks at things with an open enough mind to see the truth. Because of that, they understand/accept only a fraction of what humankind actually is aware of. A second, more devastating consequence, is that the mainstream world entirely ignores, if not ridicules, such information.

The good news is that preparation is being made. These discussions, right here, are a small part of that global shift of awareness that is occurring. All around the world, billions of people are being showered with spiritual signs, forcing them to acknowledge the greater reality. That's really all the preparation that the planet needs!

Sapphire, as Andrew rightly states, preparation is well under way, be it subtle or not, the signs are there and the increasing incidence of spiritual interaction is evidence enough.

As the passage started "The Heaven’s divine have acknowledged that a moderate amount of awareness is essential for us to find neutral ground but wanting too much is wasting time and energy..."

Finding that neutral ground is where we start, if that means we need to let go some long followed traditions, beliefs, prejudices, so be it, and only a moderate amount of awareness is essential.

[LachlanMac]

With respect -

I would very much like to believe that a spiritual shift is/will happen/ing. I just really don't see the significance of one date. I realize the whole astronomy part of it, but this relates only to us and our planet. It just seems selfish to me to think that we somehow predicted something in relation only to our planet. There is no solar/galactic/universal significance. I think it is really easy to overlook this part and and that is what worries me about looking too deeply into this path.

I don't fault anyone for being curious about this at all, but unlike what this forum is about, there is not enough scientific basis for me. (I definitely don't want to be the negative nancy here, because I'd love some global enlightenment)

I did enjoy your post, Andrew. It seemed well thought out.

I guess the one question I have is this;

Why would a method of telling time by using "celestial bodies" from one location on earth determine and predict the future? While intimidating at first, it really is not a revolutionary calendar and even the Maya (I believe the correct plural) have stated that is a cycle to keep track of time. I've searched quite extensively and have not found any other legitimate correlation with that date.

[LachlanMac]

Just to be clear, I'm not discounting any spiritual changes, but I'm speaking what can be observed. 100% of the physical correspondence to December is complete folly and people trying to sell books. The only "observable" significance is like what Andrew explained; the 13th Baku-whatever out of 20 in a Pikatun? (forget the exact wording) is guessed to fall on this day (though error would most likely make this day different by possibly years.

[Fasaga]

With respect -

I would very much like to believe that a spiritual shift is/will happen/ing. I just really don't see the significance of one date. I realize the whole astronomy part of it, but this relates only to us and our planet. It just seems selfish to me to think that we somehow predicted something in relation only to our planet. There is no solar/galactic/universal significance. I think it is really easy to overlook this part and and that is what worries me about looking too deeply into this path.

I don't fault anyone for being curious about this at all, but unlike what this forum is about, there is not enough scientific basis for me. (I definitely don't want to be the negative nancy here, because I'd love some global enlightenment)

I did enjoy your post, Andrew. It seemed well thought out.

I guess the one question I have is this;

Why would a method of telling time by using "celestial bodies" from one location on earth determine and predict the future? While intimidating at first, it really is not a revolutionary calendar and even the Maya (I believe the correct plural) have stated that is a cycle to keep track of time. I've searched quite extensively and have not found any other legitimate correlation with that date.

That simple desire for some sort of Global Enlightenment may just be enough.

[Sapphire]

Alas, my friend, the scientific community rarely ever looks at things with an open enough mind to see the truth. Because of that, they understand/accept only a fraction of what humankind actually is aware of. A second, more devastating consequence, is that the mainstream world entirely ignores, if not ridicules, such information.

The good news is that preparation is being made. These discussions, right here, are a small part of that global shift of awareness that is occurring. All around the world, billions of people are being showered with spiritual signs, forcing them to acknowledge the greater reality. That's really all the preparation that the planet needs!

I was under the impression that all of humanity needed to be prepared for this in some way, and to my dismay, despite the Internet's presence as well as many books, not one person I know has even mentioned this.

If this is all the "prep" we need, then hopefully we should be in good shape.

[Sapphire]

Sapphire, as Andrew rightly states, preparation is well under way, be it subtle or not, the signs are there and the increasing incidence of spiritual interaction is evidence enough.

As the passage started "The Heaven’s divine have acknowledged that a moderate amount of awareness is essential for us to find neutral ground but wanting too much is wasting time and energy..."

Finding that neutral ground is where we start, if that means we need to let go some long followed traditions, beliefs, prejudices, so be it, and only a moderate amount of awareness is essential.

If the requirement of Awareness indeed "moderate" then I find that a relief. Andrew brought up the inconsistencies with the timing of this, with some interesting observations. Is December 21, 2012 the day we must prepare for? I was looking at my calendar yesterday in contemplation, thinking "that will probably be a short day at the office (due to the upcoming holiday)" and hoping to be home with my husband at the time something monumental should occur.

The sites I mentioned previously have comprehensively described the event, which is to happen in a flash, when the world's life as we know it will be completely altered, and we will all be given a choice to "continue to live in the illusion" or "evolve."

[Andrew]

With respect -

I would very much like to believe that a spiritual shift is/will happen/ing. I just really don't see the significance of one date. I realize the whole astronomy part of it, but this relates only to us and our planet. It just seems selfish to me to think that we somehow predicted something in relation only to our planet. There is no solar/galactic/universal significance. I think it is really easy to overlook this part and and that is what worries me about looking too deeply into this path.

I don't fault anyone for being curious about this at all, but unlike what this forum is about, there is not enough scientific basis for me. (I definitely don't want to be the negative nancy here, because I'd love some global enlightenment)

I did enjoy your post, Andrew. It seemed well thought out.

I guess the one question I have is this;

Why would a method of telling time by using "celestial bodies" from one location on earth determine and predict the future? While intimidating at first, it really is not a revolutionary calendar and even the Maya (I believe the correct plural) have stated that is a cycle to keep track of time. I've searched quite extensively and have not found any other legitimate correlation with that date.

Hi LachlanMac!

Thanks for sharing your honest insights - that's always appreciated!

No one alive today (that I know of at least) is certain about what the significance of the Mayan calendar is. In my opinion though, it does more than just tell time. As I mentioned in my first post, the Maya actually used three different calendars, and the entire calendar ends when all three line up at 0, which happens about every 5,126.5 years. This is considered a turning point - the start of a new age. Exactly what was predicted to happen is unclear, but they believed something was. Why did their writings put such an emphasis on the end of the current age? Why wouldn't just thus say that the calendar was ending, like they did with all their other, smaller calendars?

This method of telling time would not necessarily predict the future. My thought is that the Maya were either spiritually aware enough to know, or were simply told by some greater power/being, that some type of major change was going to occur at this time. If you consider that there is no linear time, this is perfectly plausible. That's why it seems likely to me that they created their calendar to end on this date. That's just speculation on my part though. The Maya may have also realized that there was a special solar alignment, and put two and two together. Who knows? I'm not trying to make it seem as though everything is known - just putting together what I have uncovered myself.

Regarding your concern about just our planet experiencing a shift: I do believe that it would only be the earth, and not any other planets, which would be experiencing this global shift. The reason I think this is because the various civilizations that are spread out across the cosmos are likely millions (if not billions) of years apart, both in terms of technology, and spiritual advancement. Many civilizations out there have, undoubtably, already experienced a consciousness raise and are, thus, already helping us to do so ourselves. Others though, are not ready for such a shift, as they might be eons behind us. So, I tend to think that it is the right time for just the awareness level of the earth to rise, and not the entire cosmos.

And I do agree with what you are saying about one specific date. I'm not entirely sure that the date itself will have any significance. It could be simply when the transformation of our consciousness level starts, or it could be seen as important eons from now. Or, I suppose, it could be completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Only time will tell.