A Question thread

[Eli]

Going through these forums and looking at all these links of evidence for the afterlife has certainly gotten my head reeling! There is much to interpret, bunker down and think about.
Now, forgive me if I seem like I'm speaking out of my ass (I haven't quite gotten around to reading any books on the after life just yet) but I don't quite grasp the concept of a few things, so I decided to make a thread after PM'ing Roberta asking some questions, so that everyone can contribute to the discussion, and those who had the same questions may receive an answer. By all means, if you want to ask a question, feel free to do so in this thread!

In a few older forum topics, it was stated that people plan their lives before actually reaching it, the harder the life is, the more rewarding it will be as well. In a thread, a parent was grieving over the loss of their child, that just raised a few questions for me:

When a child dies, is it the parent or the child who decided the death? As it is also a struggle for the parent to cope with the loss of the child.
Secondly, why do some people choose to end their lives before they are even born? Or can the birthing process be the creation of a new soul?

[Truth seeker]

Hi! Welcome!

Generally there has to be planning from both parts, I had read and watched in the Book/movie NOSSO LAR that a reincarnation here its a very planned thing,its a well thought process...

Carol from these forums has been told from Mikey his son who passed away,that they both agreed on his passing before reincarnating on this life..

On the other question,sometimes the spirit who will occupy the fetus body realizes ,that for some reason,it will not be able to handle the life situations that will happen later to him/her ....and maybe sometimes its a planned thing like in the previous answer,sometimes a tragedy can be the catalyst for the people to change the world around them...

Sorry for any typos, English its not my main language

[Fasaga]

Offering only my opinion, I believe that there are no hard and fast rules to all this. And there are so many variables that will effect the outcome of any situation.
I believe that Life Plans are initiated prior to incarnation, but can change by choice.
I believe that there is orchestration at hand from higher up throughout our lives, but we have free will to make our own decisions.
I believe there is no such thing as coincidence, but not all events are orchestrated from the spirit world, we have a fair degree of influence from this reality as well.
We will never loose free will or the ability to choose a different path, either on this side or the other.
Based on these opinions, I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to your questions.

[Carol and Mikey]

Great responses by Truthseeker and Fasaga! We come with a general plan that can be altered by free-will.
Apparently Mikey and I agreed to this before we came. (Still struggle with this thought at times. ) I asked Mikey on the concept of "new souls" as stated by Eli. He tells me it just is not that common. Can it ever happen? Mikey says yes. But do know according to him that the birthing "process" does not create the new soul . The soul comes from God's loving energy that breaks away to progress spiritually. He tells me that most souls in Heaven have experienced lessons in some way. According to Mikey, souls "always are." We are eternal. What makes them "new" is the "breaking away." So who knows! Just one opinion. Interesting anyway!
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"

[Fasaga]

Great responses by Truthseeker and Fasaga! We come with a general plan that can be altered by free-will.
Apparently Mikey and I agreed to this before we came. (Still struggle with this thought at times. ) I asked Mikey on the concept of "new souls" as stated by Eli. He tells me it just is not that common. Can it ever happen? Mikey says yes. But do know according to him that the birthing "process" does not create the new soul . The soul comes from God's loving energy that breaks away to progress spiritually. He tells me that most souls in Heaven have experienced lessons in some way. According to Mikey, souls "always are." We are eternal. What makes them "new" is the "breaking away." So who knows! Just one opinion. Interesting anyway!
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"

The activities and journeys of "Souls" now has me intrigued. I don't know whether this could be confirmed or not but my recent understanding is that the potential activities of "Souls" are as boundless as our eternal being itself.

Specifically, can one "Soul" be incarnated into more than one physical being at the same time, i.e. be living several lives at once, and also remain in the Etheral simultaniously. Based on "Soul" advancement I can't see why not, if a "Souls" spiritual progression has reached such levels of advanced being.

Higher Beings seem to have a variety of ways to interact with the living, from deliberately incarnating with full knowledge of the afterlife when it seems necessary to intervene, to simply influencing one or many people here in the physical world. Like tentacles of energy from above was how it was described to me. (At least it wasn't described as puppets on a string - but didn't fall far short of that.)

[Eli]

Thanks for all the responses guys, I think I'm finally starting to get a grasp of the afterlife, but I still have a few more questions, if you don't mind.

In terms of the summerland, what is the general rule for homosexuality? Is it bad and should it be condemned?
My second question is more toward carol and mikey. I find it absolutely mindblowing at the connection that you both share. I haven't really read the full explanation in any threads, so I was just wondering the story behind that, if you don't mind me asking? If you would prefer not to talk about it, I understand.
Anyway, my last question is more curiosity than anything else, but does anyone know how summerland came about, or has it always been?
I find reading your responses and theories very captivating, especially those of you who have a personal connection to the other side.

I look forward to your responses!

-Eli

[mokandi]

It was my intention to start the very same thread. So glad you did Eli. I have many questions. Some may have been addressed on other threads but I honestly don't have the time to research them all. I will post my questions soon.

[Fasaga]

Thanks for all the responses guys, I think I'm finally starting to get a grasp of the afterlife, but I still have a few more questions, if you don't mind.

In terms of the summerland, what is the general rule for homosexuality? Is it bad and should it be condemned?
My second question is more toward carol and mikey. I find it absolutely mindblowing at the connection that you both share. I haven't really read the full explanation in any threads, so I was just wondering the story behind that, if you don't mind me asking? If you would prefer not to talk about it, I understand.
Anyway, my last question is more curiosity than anything else, but does anyone know how summerland came about, or has it always been?
I find reading your responses and theories very captivating, especially those of you who have a personal connection to the other side.

I look forward to your responses!

-Eli

I think that sexuality of any kind in the Summerlands becomes obsolete, as do many other human factors, the soul and spirit are above such things as the closeness felt by spirit to soul groups and to God is beyond physical yearning.

Eternity is just that, always was and always will be - I think that is the answer.

[KatLen]

On your second question, Eli, I had the same thought and I was always worried about it. As a bit of background, I am currently pregnant with my second child, but have had two previous miscarriages.

I brought my fears about having another miscarriage to my chakra healer, who knew very early on that I was pregnant. I asked him whether or not he could pick up on the baby's energy and whether or not he could sense the baby's spirit (and I was only 8-10 weeks pregnant at this point). What he said was this: "What I sense, and what you have right now, is a reservation. Like a dinner reservation at a restaurant. No one is there yet, but the space is being held." As I got further along in my pregnancy, and out of the "danger zone" of the first trimester, he noted that the spirit of this baby is constantly coming in and out of the physical body she will inhabit on earth. As the pregnancy progresses, the baby's spirit will still come and go because she is still right now part of her spirit life, but will start to spend more and more time in her physical body to make her transition easier.

NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ARE JUST SOME OF MY OWN THEORIES, NOT TO BE TAKEN AS FACT!!!

First trimester miscarriage is very often due to chromosomal issues with the way the baby is developing. I wonder whether the spirit senses/knows that something has gone wrong with the physical body it plans to inhabit -- that either the body won't survive the pregnancy or that the soul won't be able to achieve the goals he/she set for the lifetime if the physical body has severe developmental challenges -- and decides to come back at another time?

Another thought is that I wonder if the spirit can make a decision that is in the best interest of everyone involved and "cancel the reservation." For example, my second miscarriage came about 3 weeks before my mom passed away last year. My brother's wife also had a miscarriage, but a few weeks earlier. I wonder if the soul that was meant to be my baby got together with my spirit guide, the soul of my sister in law's baby, and maybe even my mom's soul (while in dream state?) and decided that it would make more sense to come back at another time?

I don't know. Again, just my thoughts. Great questions! I look forward to hearing everyone's points of view.

[Roberta Grimes]

On your second question, Eli, I had the same thought and I was always worried about it. As a bit of background, I am currently pregnant with my second child, but have had two previous miscarriages.

I brought my fears about having another miscarriage to my chakra healer, who knew very early on that I was pregnant. I asked him whether or not he could pick up on the baby's energy and whether or not he could sense the baby's spirit (and I was only 8-10 weeks pregnant at this point). What he said was this: "What I sense, and what you have right now, is a reservation. Like a dinner reservation at a restaurant. No one is there yet, but the space is being held." As I got further along in my pregnancy, and out of the "danger zone" of the first trimester, he noted that the spirit of this baby is constantly coming in and out of the physical body she will inhabit on earth. As the pregnancy progresses, the baby's spirit will still come and go because she is still right now part of her spirit life, but will start to spend more and more time in her physical body to make her transition easier.

NOTE: THE FOLLOWING ARE JUST SOME OF MY OWN THEORIES, NOT TO BE TAKEN AS FACT!!!

First trimester miscarriage is very often due to chromosomal issues with the way the baby is developing. I wonder whether the spirit senses/knows that something has gone wrong with the physical body it plans to inhabit -- that either the body won't survive the pregnancy or that the soul won't be able to achieve the goals he/she set for the lifetime if the physical body has severe developmental challenges -- and decides to come back at another time?

Another thought is that I wonder if the spirit can make a decision that is in the best interest of everyone involved and "cancel the reservation." For example, my second miscarriage came about 3 weeks before my mom passed away last year. My brother's wife also had a miscarriage, but a few weeks earlier. I wonder if the soul that was meant to be my baby got together with my spirit guide, the soul of my sister in law's baby, and maybe even my mom's soul (while in dream state?) and decided that it would make more sense to come back at another time?

I don't know. Again, just my thoughts. Great questions! I look forward to hearing everyone's points of view.

I intended to answer Eli's questions, but didn't have time to come on the forums before you all so wonderfully answered him! So I will answer Katlen:

Dear friend, what your healer described is precisely what every other reporter tells us - the soul attaches at conception, but it doesn't have to stay in the body until it is close to birth. Some do; some don't. And sometimes a soul will decide not to continue with that life, usually (we are told) because there have been some changes in the family environment or in the body itself which would have made that life unsuitable to the life that the being about to be born had planned; and if a new being doesn't take over that body before birth or soon after it, then it dies. A lot of inexplicable stillborns and crib deaths are apparently traceable to the voluntary withdrawal of the soul. If the fetus turns out to be damaged in some way, or if the body is damaged at birth, then the being associated with it will get together with guides and try to do some hasty revised life-planning to see whether the damaged body can still be useful to the being (perhaps it can provide a different but still useful set of growth opportunities). Or a different being who likes the idea of being blind or paraplegic (or whatever) this time around will step in and take over. Or if no one wants the unexpectedly damaged body, then it will die. And yes, dear friend, timing coordination revisions of the sort that you speculate about between your fetus and that of your sister-in-law also can happen!