Confused about picture taken after death and brain activity

[yannick35]

If you type brain dead on wikipedia (i know its not the best place to look but) the scientist have taken pictures of brain activity after a person is dead really dead, and there is still activity in the brain.

That is the only issue that is kind of blocking me from admiting there is life after death.

http://www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/back...ficproof1.html

this website is very good too. I have also read a lot about quantum physics and Dr Robert Lanza articles that are very good. But if the brain is not totally dead even after the body is dead and there is still activity in the brain there is a good chance that all we feel when dying is related to that activity.

Not being sceptic either just careful of what i read. I had what you can call an experience, when my grand father died in 1990, i was always very close to him and he was more then a father to me. He did a lot for me when i was so young. A week later i was in french class, something grabbed me and shook me, i look at the guy behind me and he was writting in is book, i turned around again, and i felt something grabbing me, i staid ok stop now stop and nothing ever happened again.................

[vic smyth]

Seek (for the answer to your question) and you will find.

You might look into the books The Fun of Dying and Your Eternal Self and the books of Gary E. Schwartz, Harvard trained PhD, working at the Univ of Arizona. And it's good to be skeptical and read books by creditable atheists like Carl Sagan as well to get a balanced view. Then see what rings true to you. To me, the evidence seems overwhelming and growing rapidly that consciousness survives brain death. And if it doesn't I believe that my life has been greatly enriched by believing in, and living my life with the hope of, a hereafter. My belief in the hereafter, true or false, beings me joy, gives me purpose, and makes me respectful and accepting of others. And I've had enough things happen in my life so that I experientially know that there is more to the world than just atoms randomly bouncing around.

With Lovingkindness (metta),
vic

[yannick35]

Seek (for the answer to your question) and you will find.

You might look into the books The Fun of Dying and Your Eternal Self and the books of Gary E. Schwartz, Harvard trained PhD, working at the Univ of Arizona. And it's good to be skeptical and read books by creditable atheists like Carl Sagan as well to get a balanced view. Then see what rings true to you. To me, the evidence seems overwhelming and growing rapidly that consciousness survives brain death. And if it doesn't I believe that my life has been greatly enriched by believing in, and living my life with the hope of, a hereafter. My belief in the hereafter, true or false, beings me joy, gives me purpose, and makes me respectful and accepting of others. And I've had enough things happen in my life so that I experientially know that there is more to the world than just atoms randomly bouncing around.

With Lovingkindness (metta),
vic

Thank you very much for you reply i will look up a few of your books they look really good. I read pretty much all the books by Moody found them very good a part the power of the subconscience to attrack material things i kind of lost him there.

I am not a complete sceptic, sceptics deny everything even with solid proof they still argue and try to find something else to conterfeit the thruth. I kind of hate them like religion extremist.

[LachlanMac]

Hey Yannick, thought i'd drop by another of your posts. I'd like to pose a question for you this time, though.

What do you think the word "Brain Activity" refers to?

[LachlanMac]

No one disrespects skeptics like you here, so have no fear of that. It is good that you can see the difference from a someone who is "Skeptical" and someone who denies everything with bias.

[Andrew]

If you type brain dead on wikipedia (i know its not the best place to look but) the scientist have taken pictures of brain activity after a person is dead really dead, and there is still activity in the brain.

That is the only issue that is kind of blocking me from admiting there is life after death.

http://www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/back...ficproof1.html

this website is very good too. I have also read a lot about quantum physics and Dr Robert Lanza articles that are very good. But if the brain is not totally dead even after the body is dead and there is still activity in the brain there is a good chance that all we feel when dying is related to that activity.

Not being sceptic either just careful of what i read. I had what you can call an experience, when my grand father died in 1990, i was always very close to him and he was more then a father to me. He did a lot for me when i was so young. A week later i was in french class, something grabbed me and shook me, i look at the guy behind me and he was writting in is book, i turned around again, and i felt something grabbing me, i staid ok stop now stop and nothing ever happened again.................

Hi! Yes, there is still minimal activity for up to five minutes in a newly-dead person's brain. So, it could be within the realm of possibility that the brain generates what are reported as near-death experiences and other death-related phenomena. But, those minimal brain waves don't account for other facets of the near-death phenomenon (not to mention the rest of the very board spectrum of afterlife evidence).

For example, near death experiencers often report visiting living loved ones to convey certain messages. One example is an old woman named Olga, who appeared to her son-in-law during an NDE, explaining to him that her major surgery had been a success. This happened in the middle of the night, so the man wrote down his message (which was a smart move, by the way) and fell back asleep. When Olga got out of surgery, her first words were "Did you get my message?" This was baffling to Olga's daughter, until she got a call from her husband, relaying the message. There are hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of events like these that have been recorded in various books.

So, whilst Olga was dead, her experience could have been caused by brain activity, but could her son-in-law's? No.

[Andrew]

No one disrespects skeptics like you here, so have no fear of that. It is good that you can see the difference from a someone who is "Skeptical" and someone who denies everything with bias.

Well said! Skepticism is good - certainly a vital part of research - so long as it is rational and unbiased.

[Andrew]

I am not a complete sceptic, sceptics deny everything even with solid proof they still argue and try to find something else to conterfeit the thruth. I kind of hate them like religion extremist.

Well, you could argue that the people you describe here are not true skeptics at all, but are, in their own way, religious extremists. Many scientists are like this as well. But, to be fair, I'm sure that what you describe is really a true skeptic. Skeptics are typically people who rationally sift through all the evidence before making a conclusion. It's doesn't have to be a negative quality. I would consider myself a skeptic.

[jenniechan]

Ya, I also agree with Andrew that the brain is active only up to five minutes in a newly dead person. You example was very good.

[yannick35]

You guys are awsome, i am not a true spectic because i feel they are too extreme, you show them some evidence and they are still not convinced. I am not here to argue, debate or anything, i am here to learn, search for the thruth, i love hearing everyone experience with paranormal and more its just great.