I am still not convinced that suicide leads to a harder life

[Fumahol]

The one thing that I was told the most on here- "Suicide leads to a harder life plan"
Ok, a few questions though-
-If I am able to forgive myself, then shouldn't I be all set? I heard you are your only judge.
-Also from what I was told, don't you take part in choosing your next life? Although most people choose the harder ones to become more spiritually advanced.
-What can possibly stand in your way, if you have forgiven yourself?

I can assure you these dreams I have been having lately are flashbacks to past lives. Maybe not all of them, but a lot of them. I can also assure you I committed suicide in a past life, yet here I am, in a much easier life. Not great, not even good, but it's better then the ones before.

These are the 2 religions I am most interested in:


Buddhism's view on suicide-

"However, unlike Christianity and other religions, Buddhism does not condemn suicide, but rather states that the reasons for suicide are often negative and thus counteract the path to enlightenment"

Although it says it counteracts the path to enlightenment, it does not condemn it. Plus, as stated before, I committed suicide before and was led to a much easier life.

Catholic's view on suicide-

"There is one sin that is unforgivable – blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Matt. 12:31, 32). 1 John 5:16, 17 also speak of a sin unto death. The context of 1 John suggests that John has in mind apostasy as being that sin unto death, for which there is no forgiveness (cf. Heb 6:4-6; 10:26). It is difficult to say exactly what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is, but I believe it is the same sin as apostasy. In any case, neither passage implies that suicide is the unforgivable sin."

I am not encouraging suicide, but I believe it's not as big of an offense as people are saying it is. Please forgive me to anyone who I may be frustrating.

[Carol and Mikey]

Suicide is never a "destiny" according to Mikey. It is a choice ultimately made in various situations. All situations are different. We all have free will. That gives the choice. Depression is an illness, a medical condition that NEEDS to be treated professionally. It hurts. A broken leg is a medical condition that needs to be treated as well. It hurts. Would you choose to walk around with a broken leg and not try to fix it? I am guessing you would fix it, or at least give it your best shot to make it better.
MIkey tells me that suicide is never for yourself, because it "ended" what you were trying to achieve. That act will never change things for the better. Mikey tells me your reward will be far better by accepting the life you have chosen.
Mikey also says dreams are not always messages about past lives, etc, and it can be your mind playing games especially if your thoughts are focused on such things as suicide, etc. Suicide is not the answer and thoughts of such MUST be treated. PLEASE.
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"

[ravensgate]

Ok, let's get to the bottom line.... are you questioning the act and the repercussions of suicide in general or are you contemplating it, either consciously or subconsciously? A response much appreciated.

[Fumahol]

Ok, let's get to the bottom line.... are you questioning the act and the repercussions of suicide in general or are you contemplating it, either consciously or subconsciously? A response much appreciated.

Uhhh, what?

[ravensgate]

Uhhh, what?

I just would like to know if your questions about suicide are purely for the sake of discussing suicide in general or if you are asking because you are contemplating it. Or, putting it another way, are you trying to convince yourself that suicide "is not as big an offense as people are saying it is" (your words) because that's what you'd like to do? Yet another way: are you suicidal? Do you want to get off this earthly ride? Sure hope not... but only you can answer that

[Fumahol]

Yes, I am thinking about it. Sorry to say.

[ravensgate]

Yes, I am thinking about it. Sorry to say.

Thank you for your honesty and confirming my fears. Though I realize I may be prying, I will anyway; so will you please tell me/us why? How long have you been thinking about it? A specific incident or accumulation of "things"? Have you talked with anyone about it?
You see, in your first post here I got the impression you were asking as a means to convince yourself that suicide would be no big deal if you actually went ahead with it. Can you think of anyone/anything that's worth sticking around for?

[poeticblue]

Yes, I am thinking about it. Sorry to say.

Fumahol... lets get to the point. STOP YANKING PEOPLES CHAINS. Are you seeking help or are you seeking attention like some 13 year old teenager? Feel free to reply whenever you feel like you can reply like an adult.

[Fumahol]

Fumahol... lets get to the point. STOP YANKING PEOPLES CHAINS. Are you seeking help or are you seeking attention like some 13 year old teenager? Feel free to reply whenever you feel like you can reply like an adult.

Can you do me a favor? Stop replying to my posts, I don't like you. I'm 17, and this forum is my only hope as all therapists failed. Don't make me go ahead with my plan, just shut up and accuse someone else of being a 13 year old.

[poeticblue]

Can you do me a favor? Stop replying to my posts, I don't like you. I'm 17, and this forum is my only hope as all other therapists failed. Don't make me go ahead with my plan, just shut up and accuse someone else of being a 13 year old.

See the thing is.. I'm not the only one complaining about you!