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    Moving physical objects

    I've been reading about spirits having an easier time with anything electrical rather than moving objects, but this is what happened in our home a couple of years ago. Will have to give a bit of background first... Our home was built around 1908; with the exception of the original family and the second family, no other person has lived here longer than 3 years. The house stood empty on two separate occasions for over one year at a time.
    To make the long story short, we finally accepted we weren't the only residents in this house. My husband, a uber skeptic is now a believer.

    A couple of years ago we left town for about a week and asked our neighbor to come over once a day to turn some lights on, collect the mail - you know, making it look as if someone lived here. I remember telling my neighbor about just a few of our "supernatural" experiences, but you know the "look".... the look that says, "yeah, sure sure, whatever".

    The first night after we left, our neighbor left 2 voice messages on my cell phone, asking me to call her asap, so I did. As soon as she heard my voice she said, "Now I believe your house is haunted!!" This is what happened. She came over to turn some lights one, she was talking with her mother on the phone and was getting to leave using the back door. She said that while she had her hand on the door know, she turned around to take one last look and she saw one of my 26oz. candles fly across the hall and land in the bathroom. It landed with such force her mother heard it and asked what had happend. She said (brave lady!) she went back to pick it up, and there was no crack, was in perfect condition. She went to look, thinking someone may be hiding there, but of course the house was "empty".

    The following day she called me and said that when she returned, every single kitchen cabinet door and drawer was open, top row and bottom rows. She said that at that point she felt the need to tell whoever was there that she was a friend of mine and was just doing what I had asked her to do. After that, nothing else happened.
    Our home was also investigated by a couple of paranormal groups; the first group from the Dallas-Ft.Worth area also picked up EVPs thateven my untrained ear can understand. They also put pics of the investigation on their website. Wish I knew how to post the EVPs here; one EVP is the sound of a young female saying "Excuse me", the other EVP sounds like a much older lady who says "Go away", and they also picked up a male voice saying "Never" (though I am not too sure about this third one).

    Any idea about the flying candle and the kitchen cabinet doors and drawers all open? I've always asked to not do anything like that around me or I'dfreak, and so far it's been fine (we have been living here for the past16+years).
    I should add that they/he/she have also played with electrical appliances. One event was rather amusing - though I did not think so whn it happened. DH and I were sitting in the living room watching a move; the chandelier in the living room was on, the movie was lousy and in one scene you see a little boy going down the basement stairs. My husband said, "Just watch, I can tell what's going to happen. He goes down the basement and the lights go off". At exactly the point where the basement light goes out in the movie, our chandelier turned itself off! Coincidence? I rather doubt it.
    Your opinions much appreciated

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    Hi! It is often easier for spirits to have an effect on electrical appliances than for them to move physical objects. This is probably because electricity is a form of energy and spirits comprised of energy as well. The physcial world, however illusory it may be, is not entirely made of energy in the same way that the afterlife and its inhabitants are, so it is harder to affect. That being said, it is entirely possible for the deceased to physically affect the physical world. It all depends on the spirit in question, how determined he is, and his vibrational level.

    There's no doubt that your experiences were the result of spiritual involvement. Nonetheless though, what you describe is rather curious. Normally, when the deceased inflict that level of physical disturbence, they are lower-level beings with the intent to scare. But, in your case, it seems as though they are protecting you. (I say "they" for simplicity, but it could well be only one.)

    Obviously, your spiritual friends were quite defensive of your house while you were not there. This shows that they are completely aware of what is happening, meaning that they are probably not earthbounds. This, as well as the fact that they heeded your request not to do this type of stuff in front of you, also shows that whoever is there has a benevolent attitude towards you and your family. A low-level being, after being told that you were afraid of something, would have persisted in doing it. So, I am pretty sure that you are not dealing with negative spirits here.

    It is possible that you have a deceased loved one watching over you (in a very literal way). It's hard to give a precise answer, but, since you've been living there so long, it's likley nothing to worry about.

    It is also possible that you have a benevolent, aware earthbound in your house. I have never personally heard of an earthbound having both these qualities, but I have read nothing saying that it cannot happen.

    I hope this is of some help!
    "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path."

    -The Buddha

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    Also, do you have the EVP files? If you do, you can email them to me at andrew@eternityforall.org - I can probably post them for you.
    "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path."

    -The Buddha

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    Yes, Andrew, I know I kept the files on my PC. will send them to you; thank you!
    More than one person has seen "ghosts" here, though I never fully admit our home is haunted because many tend to give you the look that tell me I should be locked up in a padded room!
    For example, a friend of mine freaked out when she walked past a vanity, on her way to my bedroom. She said she stopped briefly to look in the mirror and the face of an older lady stared back. I asked her what the image looked like and she said it looked like an older lady with her hair up in a sort of bun, and she did not seem to be very pleased to see her. My friend has yet to return to visit; she told me our home spooks her! (and years have passed).

    Andrew, I must confess that when we first bought this house we went through some tough times; I felt someone always watching me, the atmosphere was full of "WHO in the heck are you and what are you doing in my house?!" Several things happened to try and scary us away, but we stood out ground so to speak.
    In fact, one day I got my resolve together, stood in the dining room (the most active area) and out loud I let the entity(ties) know that this was our home and we had no intention of destroying it (like past owners did, in an attempt to "modernize" it); in fact we were determined to bring it back to its glory. I was angry, frankly. After that, ever so slowly, things began to change. It's as if it went from "Get out!' to "Ok, let's watch and see", to being ok with us living here.

    My daughter, when she was 11 years old, did see a woman walk past her and at first she though it was me playing a joke on her; she went to look but the woman disappeared. Many years later a friend of my husband saw the figure of a woman walk down the hall, heading to the front door, but no woman was home (besides me, and I was with them on the back porch).
    Yes, I am glad I do not see her/him/they (the investigators believe there is more than one spirit), though sometimes I sense a very powerful energy; that's it, I can sense them immediately, but do not see them; at the most I just see shadows which I attribute to tricks of vision, lol
    Ok, time to go look for those audio files. :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    Also, do you have the EVP files? If you do, you can email them to me at andrew@eternityforall.org - I can probably post them for you.

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    Once when I was little I was in my bedroom and saw sheets on the bed move as if someone was getting in the bed. I told myself I didn't really see what I saw-it just didn't make sense. I told one of my sisters a few years later and she said she saw clothes move in her closet once. I thought I saw a ghost once when we first moved into that house-it was so fleeting I wasn't sure. Someone did die in that house, but the person who died was a male and the ghost I thought I saw was a female. Don't think there was a previous owner before the male who died and his family-but I'm not sure. But your experience-wow-a candle flying across the hall. Sounds kind of like a poltergeist experience-though I don't think that is the case here. I agree with what Andrew said.
    Last edited by ilovelearninhg; 07-02-2012 at 07:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensgate View Post
    Yes, Andrew, I know I kept the files on my PC. will send them to you; thank you!
    More than one person has seen "ghosts" here, though I never fully admit our home is haunted because many tend to give you the look that tell me I should be locked up in a padded room!
    Unfortunately, a lot of people are not very open-minded when it comes to spiritual subjects - especially with something as stereotypical and ghosts and hauntings. "Hauntings" are actually fairly common though in many areas, such as Europe and the Eastern United States. The longer people have been living in historic areas, the greater the chance for a haunting to occur.

    Quote Originally Posted by ravensgate View Post
    Andrew, I must confess that when we first bought this house we went through some tough times; I felt someone always watching me, the atmosphere was full of "WHO in the heck are you and what are you doing in my house?!" Several things happened to try and scary us away, but we stood out ground so to speak.
    In fact, one day I got my resolve together, stood in the dining room (the most active area) and out loud I let the entity(ties) know that this was our home and we had no intention of destroying it (like past owners did, in an attempt to "modernize" it); in fact we were determined to bring it back to its glory. I was angry, frankly. After that, ever so slowly, things began to change. It's as if it went from "Get out!' to "Ok, let's watch and see", to being ok with us living here.
    OK, that makes sense. Whoever is occupying your house is probably earthbound after all. For some reason, upon their death, they must have gotten attached to the house and refused to leave. This is more common then one would think. At that point, the spirits may have forgotten that they were dead and gone on living as normal for a while, or they may have been consciously aware and still chose to remain for some reason. That reason could well have been to protect the house from people trying to modernize it. Either way, they are aware now of what is going on in the house!

    It is likely that, after several bad experiences in the past, they have become distrusting of new comers, and that is why it was tough for you when you first moved in. Once they realized that there was no immediate danger, however, they decided that it was acceptable to coexist. Clearly, as your neighbors have proven, they have not become more amicable to other people.


    Quote Originally Posted by ravensgate View Post
    My daughter, when she was 11 years old, did see a woman walk past her and at first she though it was me playing a joke on her; she went to look but the woman disappeared. Many years later a friend of my husband saw the figure of a woman walk down the hall, heading to the front door, but no woman was home (besides me, and I was with them on the back porch).
    Yes, I am glad I do not see her/him/they (the investigators believe there is more than one spirit), though sometimes I sense a very powerful energy; that's it, I can sense them immediately, but do not see them; at the most I just see shadows which I attribute to tricks of vision, lol
    When a haunting occurs, this type of activity is very common. A lot of the time, when one's eyes are not focused, one can catch a glimpse of something spiritual (i.e. from a non-physical dimension). I'm not sure exactly what causes this, but there are many other examples of it. For example, when learning to see auras, one is often instructed to stretch out one's hand and look past it, focusing on the wall behind it. This provide an opportunity for one to see the hand, without focusing on it. I tend to think that the same thing happens with ghost sightings a lot of the time, especially when they disappear after only a couple of seconds. So, what you see might not be tricks of vision either.

    Have you ever tried to coax the spirits out of the earthbound state and into the afterlife. Theoretically, all one would have to do is get their attention and then tell them to look around and see the light. You might try to tell them that their loved ones are guiding them back home. Say that it is a better place and that they'll be much happier there. If they need to be bribed, tell them that they'll have a perfect replica of the house, in its full glory, waiting for them.
    "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path."

    -The Buddha

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovelearninhg View Post
    Once when I was little I was in my bedroom and saw sheets on the bed move as if someone was getting in the bed. I told myself I didn't really see what I saw-it just didn't make sense. I told one of my sisters a few years later and she said she saw clothes move in her closet once. I thought I saw a ghost once when we first moved into that house-it was so fleeting I wasn't sure. Someone did die in that house, but the person who died was a male and the ghost I thought I saw was a female. Don't think there was a previous owner before the male who died and his family-but I'm not sure. But your experience-wow-a candle flying across the hall. Sounds kind of like a poltergeist experience-though I don't think that is the case here. I agree with what Andrew said.
    That makes sense. It is somewhat common for earthbound spirits to get trapped in their earthly routines. So if someone lived in your room, and then got trapped there, it may well be possible that said person goes through the motions of going to bed every night. If you weren't really looking at anything (or were focusing on something else), you could have accidentally found the right angle to view spirit activity. Typically though, one begins to focus on such activity when one sees it, which causes it to seem to disappear.

    Referring to Ravensgate experience: I tend to think that I poltergeist (which comes from the German for "noisy ghost/spirit") would not respect Raven's request for peace and quiet. This is typical poltergeist activity, but the profile does not really fit in this case, as you said.
    "You cannot travel the path until you have become the path."

    -The Buddha

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    I love this really good post

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    My buisness partner just moved into a rented house yesterday, his partner and children stayed at their old house last night and won't move in untill the weekend, so here he is in a 100 year old home, where for some reason an old piano was left behind by previous owners/tenants, no one knows who it belonged to. So my buisness partner has always struck me as a bit of an athiest, a subject we never really got into but a very factual, down to earth numbers man so to speak. Well didn't his disposition change dramatically this morning, I'm sure he didn't know how to broach the subject and led with some strange statements of how cold the house felt, how thick the air felt, must be because it is so old, and then made the statement that he thought someone must have died in that house.

    When we cut through the banter and he saw I was on to what he was trying to say he finally opened up. At about 2.00am this morning the piano started playing on its own. He was wide awake watching the Olympics, it started as a single note, a pause for a minute or two, then a string of three notes, then another pause, then another note, then three more, always different notes, this went on for 45 minutes. He finally had enough and went to sleep in his car.

    This morning his TV remote disappeared, and a book he was bringing to me suddenly reappeared in his brief case after going missing last night, and he had checked his case and is certain it wasn't in there when he left the house this morning.

    I could only laugh at the way he described his night but reassured him he probably isn't imagining any of this and would recommend a couple of things that might help. These validations just keep popping up.


 

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