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  1. #151
    I hope that such guidance from an individual who has only recently passed over, and who is in regular contact with this world through his mother, will personalize the situation for many who are unsure what to make of the so-called spirit world.

    There's any number of historical accounts about life in the nearest realms of the etheric with most saying similar things in greater or lesser degree. Hearing about life there through Carol though emphasizes that so-called spirits - Mikey in this case - are still very much individuals and still very easily recognizable by their characters and characteristics. Spirits aren't the weird and threatening ghosts and ghouls that many folk associate with the afterlife.

    Most importantly - as I see things - Mikey can say how it is for him in respect of any situation. Not general indications about life 'over-there' but how it actually is for him as an individual. Each individual will feel it as an individual and not as a homogeneous entity called 'spirit'. Personal feelings are totally valid even if they're different from those that other (spirit) individuals report because each individual is at a personal level of spiritual progression, a personal level of spiritual understanding.

    It's that individuality which makes accounts of life in the etheric so interesting and intriguing yet still confirm the general details given in so may other accounts.

  2. #152
    I hesitate to contribute where there are such personal and raw emotions. My specialty is in speaking about the general situation and that I'll address that.

    I haven't read the account by the medium mentioned but there's a raft of reasons why the newly-discarnate may begin, and later discontinue, communications. A 'too much energy is needed' constraint is plain silly; it's way more complex than that. Each individual's situation is specific and personal yet general 'guidelines' apply. Please don't take this as criticism but Bella, and others, have been exceedingly fortunate to have had contact with loved ones. I know people who would give their eye-teeth for just a fraction of what some folk receive. People who have sought out mediums over many years yet have had nothing. People who are often desperate.....

    It's wonderful when individuals get personal confirmation and it could be argued that once that's happened, once the recipient knows their loved ones live on and still love them, then it's time for all involved to move on. Life here has to go on no matter how bleak it may seem. Life over-there is beginning in a new phase. Communication is a blessing and a privilege but for most it's intended only as a transient thing. In time all will be back with one another and many in this world will never know that reassurance.

    i hope all this doesn't sound cold and unfeeling.

  3. #153
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    I fear this is truthful. I saw my sons face and then felt the pressure of a hug. Some days I doubt it was real. But I'm certain it was. I tell myself it was a goodbye. So why do I expect another? Because I miss him so much and the pain unbearable. It did not read cold and unfeeling.

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    I would love to have seen my hubby's face up close and then felt the pressure of a hug. Everything that I have had has been from a distance. Mokandi, how long was this after he passed? This takes a tremendous amount of energy.
    Mac, of course, you are not cold and unfeeling. You have completely understood, and yes, I guess it has to be transient. But if we learn to communicate, perhaps it can be more than transient, as I hope to communicate without draining his energy. Thank you so much for reading and validating my feelings. I wish I had a support group in my neighborhood where people did not use the word 'death' to mean 'sever' the relationship and forget.

  5. #155
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    I would love to have seen my hubby's face up close and then felt the pressure of a hug. Everything that I have had has been from a distance. Mokandi, how long was this after he passed? This takes a tremendous amount of energy.
    Mac, of course, you are not cold and unfeeling. You have completely understood, and yes, I guess it has to be transient. But if we learn to communicate, perhaps it can be more than transient, as I hope to communicate without draining his energy. Thank you so much for reading and validating my feelings. I wish I had a support group in my neighborhood where people did not use the word 'death' to mean 'sever' the relationship and forget.
    I'm relieved you're not offended. It's hard to be dispassionate where these issues are such personal ones. I also have to keep my own feelings away from the situation.

    Although communication doesn't drain spiritual energy, concentration and emotion can be taxing on the bodies of all concerned. I hate to be a wet blanket but the communication you wish you had is far from common in my experience. I'm not persuaded that learning to communicate is necessarily desirable. Of course there are those who do learn for special reasons as we know from Carol and Mikey. They seem to be the exception rather than the rule. I have friends in circumstances similar to both yours and Carol's.

    A final consideration is that where communication occurs it's usually necessary for the discarnate one to draw close to the earth plane and if they remain there in the longer term they are not where they perhaps should be.

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by mokandi View Post
    Mac
    I fear this is truthful. I saw my sons face and then felt the pressure of a hug. Some days I doubt it was real. But I'm certain it was. I tell myself it was a goodbye. So why do I expect another? Because I miss him so much and the pain unbearable. It did not read cold and unfeeling.
    I don't know if it was a goodbye hug or a hug to reassure you that he's around but has a new life to get on with. For a mother I guess it's harder to let the child go - I'm a dad so I can only guess that's generally the case. I hope you know that your son will never be far away from you but as I'm saying that I also realize it's not helping you. In time I also hope the hurting will diminish.

    It's a horrible cliche but time can be a healer. You won't forget, you won't stop missing him and of course why should you?

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    I found it interesting that Robert Schwartz, who wrote Your Soul's Contract, stated that, since there were more souls than bodies available, those selected to incarnate within the last four or five decades were people who would contribute to increasing the communication through the veil. This would be in all walks of life. Perhaps the signs that we have been getting would suggest that we should develop our communication skills on the this plane. If this communication would be regular, but not too frequent, it would not keep them too earth bound, I believe.

  8. #158
    Hi all,
    Mac really has done a great job in addressing this issue. It is so difficult, this journey of grief, and communication varies so much. Mikey continues to tell me it does not have to do with them running out of energy. Mac touched on it well that there are many more factors. These factors can involve the person still on earth or the person who has passed, or both. Early on in my personal journey, I grabbed onto anything I could to make me feel better, to give me hope. I was told I thought everything was a sign. Was it? I will never know for sure, but it gave me strength as I felt it was. I did not go to mediums a lot. I had 5 visits total in 2 years before I met Sally Baldwin. I relied more on what I felt were signs. I surrounded myself with people that supported me and made me feel good. I talked to who would listen. I worked with my grief not letting it over take me, again reaching for anything I could. Mikey continues to say that communication can be very subtle. Can you catch it? Is your vibration high enough to be reached. Low vibrating emotions can affect this.

    I remember my hubby and I saying that the fact that Mikey was off at college when the accident happened, softened slightly the fact that he was no longer "physically present" because we had gotten use to him being physically away from us. I think about this concept now and what we are talking about here. Mikey tells me that he is closer to us now then when he was off to college!
    Mac pointed this out as well. Our loved ones have passed, we are still definately connected by our love, but we are just in different places for now. It is temporary. In life, we do separate things away from our loved ones while we are here. Now we are only separated from them with a difference in vibration. They are close, but can be busy in their lessons, just like we are busy with ours. If we think of it as working close together being separated only by different frequencies can give hope, always knowing it is temporary . They can hear us. Mikey continues to say that they care very much about their loved ones still here. They try to help. They understand the pain and feel our love for them.

    I had a dream some months after Mikey's accident. He walked into the kitchen and I grabbed him telling him I will never let you go! Never! He said, "mom, you need to let go of me a little so I can move!" When I let go of him, he vanished. I woke up crying. I knew what the dream meant. I needed to let go of the "physical Mikey" I once had. He told me later that I needed to let go of the "physical" because it was gone, and understand the "spiritual" relationship we now had. Our love would never change. We are all in this spiritual relationship now. If we can get a better understanding of this, it brings peace. Mikey says a hug is a big hello! "I am still here always watching over you!" It is never goodbye.

    Death never ends a relatioship, it only changes it! And that change is temporary! Love lives on!
    Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
    Last edited by Carol and Mikey; 08-07-2012 at 09:45 PM.

  9. #159
    Thank you Carol. My son was amazing. He really suffered though. I hate reading about souls that are stuck for thousands of years. I want his suffering to be over. I want him happy and in peace and as close to God as possible. I also need to know if this.

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by mokandi View Post
    Thank you Carol. My son was amazing. He really suffered though. I hate reading about souls that are stuck for thousands of years. I want his suffering to be over. I want him happy and in peace and as close to God as possible. I also need to know if this.
    Dear Mokandi, if you have had even one communication from your son - especially something so dramatic as seeing his face and being hugged! - then your son has successfully transitioned, he is perfectly fine, and you needn't worry about him for a minute! Please be at peace, dear precious friend. He is with God and all is well!!


 

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