Ouija Board

[orangeysky]

Was just watching a video clip on NBC Sunday Morning with Chip Coffey regarding Ouija boards. I know I have read many times in the forums that this is very dangerous. Why though? Seems to me Carol and Mikey use a similar method to communicate and if you open with prayer, close with prayer wouldn't you be protected?

Thanks

Orangeysky

[mac]

Was just watching a video clip on NBC Sunday Morning with Chip Coffey regarding Ouija boards. I know I have read many times in the forums that this is very dangerous. Why though? Seems to me Carol and Mikey use a similar method to communicate and if you open with prayer, close with prayer wouldn't you be protected?

Thanks

Orangeysky

Carol and Mikey use a pendulum for their communication. Pointer movement has movement similar to a planchette on a ouija board - end of similarities.

Mikey is Carol's son. She doesn't communicate with just anybody - there's already a bond of deep love between them and a purpose behind, and for, their continuing relationship. By contrast a ouija board is rarely, if ever, used in such a way. Contact with a discarnate entity ('spirit') is likely to be random and unfocused although occasionally there are reports that an experienced practitioner may achieve worthwhile results. Much more often, though, they are used by folks just 'having a go' at 'contacting the spirits'. Ritualised prayers mean little and are unlikely to have any protective effect.

Can they be dangerous? Yes. Entering into a situation where contact with any discarnate entity is more likely to attract those who enjoy 'hanging around' the earth plane than those more spiritually evolved. It's a bit like leaving open your front door with the light on and then expecting you'd attract only trustworthy individuals. Sure you might get lucky and someone really nice may walk in to say hello. Or you could get some local low-life who has an altogether different agenda....

[orangeysky]

Thank you for the response, Mac. I have no intentions of using one. I just watched this video, became intrigued about the difference so did a little "surfing" only to find pretty much nothing but ways to properly use a Ouija board. In NO way did I intend to infer Carol and Mikey are doing anything "spooky" I realize their purpose is extremely rare and without a doubt genuine. Never have I questioned that. Just curious...

Can you please explain the difference between using a pendulum versus a planchette, or maybe it's the board? I really have no idea and the information I get from you and the others is far more reliable in my opinion than Google. Hate to go against the grain here but contrary to popular belief, google is not the source of all sources. I'd much rather prefer to begin with resources I know are experienced and accurate. Carol and Mikey being the exception, would it be just as dangerous for any layperson to attempt the pendulum route as it would be to use the Ouija? Why? What makes the route different if you are using the same protection prayers, etc. and only use it to contact a certain individual with verification and so on.

[mac]

Thank you for the response, Mac. I have no intentions of using one. I just watched this video, became intrigued about the difference so did a little "surfing" only to find pretty much nothing but ways to properly use a Ouija board. In NO way did I intend to infer Carol and Mikey are doing anything "spooky" I realize their purpose is extremely rare and without a doubt genuine. Never have I questioned that. Just curious...

Can you please explain the difference between using a pendulum versus a planchette, or maybe it's the board? I really have no idea and the information I get from you and the others is far more reliable in my opinion than Google. Hate to go against the grain here but contrary to popular belief, google is not the source of all sources. I'd much rather prefer to begin with resources I know are experienced and accurate. Carol and Mikey being the exception, would it be just as dangerous for any layperson to attempt the pendulum route as it would be to use the Ouija? Why? What makes the route different if you are using the same protection prayers, etc. and only use it to contact a certain individual with verification and so on.

I hadn't thought you were contemplating using one, orangesky - please don't think my directness was aimed at you. I find it's simply easier to write things in a direct, simple manner rather than using loads of words.

The use of a pendulum isn't my field but an Aussie friend had a piece in 'Psychic News' this year explaining the pros and cons. For him it's psychic - rather than spiritual - and it has limitations although it can be useful too, he says. From the little I do understand about pendulum communication, that between Carol and her very-close son, Mikey, is exceptional. Theirs is for a very special reason and because they are so close there's no issue about the identity of the communicator as there would be with other, mechanical methods. (Carol doesn't much need the pendulum but she finds it a reassurance. You've seen her videos - astonishing and very interesting how things work for her and Mikey)

For others one has to consider what the communication is intended for, what it's supposed to do. That also applies equally to whatever other communication methods might be tried. As I said before, ritualised prayers have little meaning other than perhaps to give a focus of intent on the part of the seeker. But they're not magic and don't provide protection.

In terms of being dangerous it's perhaps not dangerous as we'd usually use that word but there's a risk of being misled by whomever is contacted. Many people appear to think that because someone is 'over there' they're automatically omniscient, can explain everything and give advice on all manner of matters. Would we listen to just anybody here? No we wouldn't but common sense may be set aside when it's a 'spirit'.

There is, though, a risk, a danger, that the discarnate whom one makes contact with may enjoy being around the seeker rather more than the seeker enjoys it. And just like getting rid of an unwanted house-guest, it can be difficult to be rid of a discarnate one.

A ouija board can be an open invitation and how would someone inexperienced know who's communicating and whether they could be trusted? Even experienced evidential mediums can't guarantee who will come to a seance so why would the open-door ouija board be any better at achieving that? The difference is that the medium and her/his spirit-side helpers can take steps to allow into the seance only those discarnates who have a relationship, or association, with the seeker.

[Matty Mo]

In terms of being dangerous it's perhaps not dangerous as we'd usually use that word but there's a risk of being misled by whomever is contacted. Many people appear to think that because someone is 'over there' they're automatically omniscient, can explain everything and give advice on all manner of matters. Would we listen to just anybody here? No we wouldn't but common sense may be set aside when it's a 'spirit'.

There is, though, a risk, a danger, that the discarnate whom one makes contact with may enjoy being around the seeker rather more than the seeker enjoys it. And just like getting rid of an unwanted house-guest, it can be difficult to be rid of a discarnate one.

I don't think there is anything inherently dangerous about Ouija boards unless one becomes so obsessed with using it or is using it the wrong way. I suppose if someone uses it and intentionally wants to reach out to ornery earthbound spirits then someone like this could also have emotional issues which could be affected through outside influences.

I personally messed around with the Ouija board, mostly in my teens, and typically always with friends. We all keep a level head about it, and although some unexplained things happened during these sittings, nothing bad ever seemed to come out of it. The allure is not there for me anymore but I "get" why many dabble with it. All in all I think it's harmless if used from time to time and is not taken too seriously.

[mac]

I tend to think like Mac on this. I don't think there is anything inherently dangerous about Ouija boards unless one becomes so obsessed with using it or is using it the wrong way. I suppose if someone uses it and intentionally wants to reach out to ornery earthbound spirits then someone like this could also have emotional issues which could be affected through outside influences.

I personally messed around with the Ouija board, mostly in my teens, and typically always with friends. We all keep a level head about it, and although some unexplained things happened during these sittings, nothing bad ever seemed to come out of it. The allure is not there for me anymore but I "get" why many dabble with it. All in all I think it's harmless if used from time to time and is not taken too seriously.

I'm not happy at having my name linked to this response - it wasn't what I said at all.

In terms of harm take a look at my last paragraph "There is, though, a risk, a danger, that the discarnate whom one makes contact with may enjoy being around the seeker rather more than the seeker enjoys it. And just like getting rid of an unwanted house-guest, it can be difficult to be rid of a discarnate one." Mine has an altogether different emphasis from that of the final paragraph above and especially its last sentence.

[orangeysky]

I most definitely understand, appreciate and respect your directness, Mac. Thank you again for your time in providing such a thorough response.

[WWE LOVER]

Watch the movie Witchboard.

All kidding aside, I bought one in 1988. Used to use it alone. I thought it was so cool. Then one night I was at home by myself and thought I could hear voices and pots clanging. Scared the crap out of me. Haven't used one since.

[mac]

Watch the movie Witchboard.

All kidding aside, I bought one in 1988. Used to use it alone. I thought it was so cool. Then one night I was at home by myself and thought I could hear voices and pots clanging. Scared the crap out of me. Haven't used one since.

And that's one of the less-traumatic potential outcomes..... Others have experienced ongoing problems with discarnate entities reluctant to part company with their new-found earth contacts.

[Roberta Grimes]

DO NOT USE A OUIJA BOARD! DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO AUTOMATIC WRITING! For that matter, DON'T USE A PENDULUM EITHER! Anyone who does a lot of research in the field of afterlife communication comes across information here and there about what can happen to amateurs who mess with such powerful summonses to malevolent entities. Apparently a non-psychic novice sitting with fingers on a planchette or on a keyboard is seen by earthbound beings as a beacon of light, and they can beam right in and make themselves at home. The unsuspecting experimenter who summoned them can wind up becoming possessed by them for a time, or can fill his home with nasties who make him miserable until they gradually lose interest, or even can become so spiritually befouled that he never is the same again. I recall one case in which a house could not be cleansed of its nasties, and eventually it had to be torn down. Mac is right: experimenting this way is dangerous!