Binaural Beats (Astral Projection-Lucid Dreaming)

[Matty Mo]

Have any of our wonderful residents of the AL forums tried to use any sort of Binaural Beat audio for Astral Projection or Lucid dreaming. I've tried a few that I've found on you tube with little to no success. I think a big part of my problem is I try to listen to them right before I go to bed and all they seem to do is put me to sleep. I listened to some Astral Projection hypnosis last night with the same results, falling asleep.

I know it seems like cheating but I don't have the time or patience to practice meditation as much as one seemingly needs to do to ever achieve any sort of lucid dreaming or astral projection. I'm also not naive enough to think listening to a 30 minute hypnosis or binaural beat audio session will help me easily achieve some cosmic travelling.

Just curious what others on the board have found successful to achieve some altered states of mind without investing years into meditation? Is it even possible? Thanks for any insight anyone cares to share.

[vic smyth]

There are no shortcuts. That's why so many people, myself included, are always seeking out the latest magic book, magic method, magic group, magic website. I don't think that you can force psi experiences to happen. The people that can are very rare. The only way that I can achieve different states of consciousness fairly consistently is through meditation. But I've been meditating for 30 years, the past 5 years 4 times a day. Want results? Start today, even five minutes a day is a great start. BTW, there is nothing wrong with falling asleep while doing any of the exercises. Just go with the flow.


With Lovingkindness (metta),
vic

[Matty Mo]

There are no shortcuts. That's why so many people, myself included, are always seeking out the latest magic book, magic method, magic group, magic website. I don't think that you can force psi experiences to happen. The people that can are very rare. The only way that I can achieve different states of consciousness fairly consistently is through meditation. But I've been meditating for 30 years, the past 5 years 4 times a day. Want results? Start today, even five minutes a day is a great start. BTW, there is nothing wrong with falling asleep while doing any of the exercises. Just go with the flow.


With Lovingkindness (metta),
vic

Thanks for the info Vic, I've got two young children 2 and 4, so finding free time is rare for anything. It's good to know I can fall asleep, or just start to doze in and out, and that still counts for a little meditation. I might nip this psi thing yet. 30 years is highly dedicated and impressive, including your last 5 years of 4 times a day. I'm 100% certain, even if I didn't have a wife and kids taking all my time, I could never dedicate myself to that. Thanks again for your insight, Vic.

[vic smyth]

Thanks for the info Vic, I've got two young children 2 and 4, so finding free time is rare for anything. It's good to know I can fall asleep, or just start to doze in and out, and that still counts for a little meditation. I might nip this psi thing yet. 30 years is highly dedicated and impressive, including your last 5 years of 4 times a day. I'm 100% certain, even if I didn't have a wife and kids taking all my time, I could never dedicate myself to that. Thanks again for your insight, Vic.

Matty Mo, I sense that you are following your Inner Guide and doing what is just right for you. Your time spent with your family is probably your greatest spiritual exercise at this time. Go with the flow!


With Lovingkindness (metta),
vic

[Bella]

Matty Mo,
I have had some lucid dreams, and I am also interested in having an OBE, although I know these are not made to order. For lucid dreaming, I found a link to a free e-book, _Exploring the way of Lucid Dreaming_ by Stephen Laberge. He is one of the leading experts on this topic.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/doc/Explori...20Dreaming.pdf

From what I have read, it can best be accomplished in the afternoon and in the morning when you are in the hypnagogic state, between asleep and awake.

In this video, Stephen Laberge is explaining how to lucid dream. In other parts of the series, he may discuss OBEs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTb4...feature=relmfu