Dreaming?

[Cecil]

Hello :)

I was wondering what the forum thought about dreaming and if it had some sort of connection to Summerland?

In the past, before learning about the afterlife, I've had dreams where I was in total bliss. I had everything I ever wanted, and could create any object I chose. I can actually remember not wanting to wake up. In other dreams I have had sexual intercourse with someone I did not know (I can remember this happening twice)

What could this mean? Has anyone else had these types of dreams? Is there someone trying to communicate with me? Is it a memory from a past life, or is it just a crazy imagination?

Thank you for reading.

[VioletRose]

Actually, there was a forum member called Jaunt who described lucid dreams that always ended in a place very similar to Summerland. Here (http://afterlifeforums.com/showthread.php/48-Lucid-dreaming) is a link to that thread.

As for me, my dreams tend to be boring or frightening more often than they are "heavenly," like what you describe.

[Cecil]

Thank you for the link VioletRose. I must of overlooked it.

Maybe there is some quirk in certain peoples brains that allow them to remember lucid dreams. Perhaps everyone gets them. I only get them once in a blue moon at best. I wish I could share it with others....

[Roberta Grimes]

Hi Cecil! I am no expert in the area of dreams, but the afterlife evidence contains many bits of details about dreams and dreaming. I will tell you - to quote Grace Augustine in the movie Avatar - "what we think we know."

1) Everyone - or nearly everyone - spends time in the afterlife levels during sleep. While there, we visit with dead loved ones and consult with our guides and even take classes. I don't know how much earth-time we spend doing this, but since time is an illusion and on the afterlife levels it is both flexible and subjective, perhaps it takes just a few minutes of earth-time to "travel out of body" into the Summerland and spend what feels like a day or more in what we are told is actually real life. The movie Avatar is in fact a good analogy: Jake has to break his connection to his avatar while it sleeps so he can feed and rest his physical body and get instructions, while for us that feeding and replenishment of our minds (our real selves) happens while our earth-bodies are sleeping.

2) Apparently we retain memories of our nighttime Summerland forays, but they get garbled into dreams. I once read an explanation by a channeled being who said that once our material brains wake up, we can remember those nightly trips only in reference to what we know from this lifetime, which is why our dreams contain odd symbols and nonsense events. Why we generally don't remember the actual events is something I have speculated about, and it may be to keep us from discovering that - hey, wait! - this whole universe thing is an illusion; or it may be an artifact of the extreme differences between the material and the afterlife levels (including the fact that time there is so different). Or maybe it's both.

3) Sometimes what seem to be dreams are actual memories of our forays into the afterlife levels. If you want to know whether you are remembering actual events, notice how long and how clear your memories of each dream remain. If it's just a dream, you will have trouble recalling very much of it by noontime. On the other hand, if after a few days it still feels like an actual memory and you can still relive it in your mind and recount it in detail, then probably it is a memory of actual Summerland events.

4) Memories of our visits to the afterlife levels seem to be of two kinds. Some are visits with dead loved ones, and are in fact an important way that the dead reassure us that they are alive and happy; while others are what amount to memories of out-of-body travel during sleep. The key differences between visitation dreams and lucid dreams are two: the former contain the vivid presence of one or more dead loved ones as the centerpiece of the experience, and generally we can't control what happens; while lucid dreams generally don't include the dead, and they are mostly or entirely self-directed. Lucid dreaming hasn't interested me so I never have pursued it, but some experts say that if you make your last thought each night the firm intention to become aware during your dreams and be able to manipulate and remember them, you can learn to lucid-dream. If that is what you want to do, Cecil, then that is something you should try!

5) Visitation dreams can be wonderful. I have had two - one of my father, and one of my horse - and even though both occurred years ago I still can recall each small detail of them. My dad (who died at 86) was so young that at first I didn't recognize him; and my horse (who died just shy of 30, which is something like 150 in horse-years) was about four again, and absolutely gorgeous. Just a few days after his death, this beautiful animal took me on an elaborate carriage-ride. As soon as I woke up, I realized that the events of that drive (while alive, he had preferred being driven to being ridden) had been his symbolic thank-you for keeping him safe and happy throughout his life.

- What dreams are and why we have them and how we can learn to lucid-dream are yet more of the numberless things that scientists easily will piece together once quantum physics gets back on track!

[Firebird]

Does the above also apply to induced dreams, like what you would get after taking psychedelic substances (LSD, peyote, etc)? Or does that stuff only trick the brain? I can recall reading various accounts of drug-induced dream-states that purportedly brought on a sense of connection to some greater reality, and folklore holds that tribal shamans would take mind-altering substances to help them communicate with visiting ancestral spirits.