Walking with angels

[Knightofalbion]

We owe it to ourselves to listen to that small still voice which whispers to us more and more insistently at a certain stage of our spiritual evolution.

For as every cell in our bodies constantly renews itself, we are what we eat.

Every cell partakes of the substance we give it. In this way, when we do not consume flesh saturated with the coarser vibrations of the less evolved (to which fear and resentment, often terror, are all too often added) the whole body becomes a more refined vehicle.

As it is progressively filled with more light, the vibrations quicken and we become more psychically and spiritually receptive - and a more fitting temple for the unfolding and kindling of the Divinity within us all

- Peggy Mason (From 'New Age Companion')

[Roberta Grimes]

When I first understood that plants can (literally) read our minds, and when I realized that the pains and terrors associated with factory-farming followed by a slaughterhouse might be tainting our meat with negative spiritual energies, there was a time when I was nervous about eating anything at all. (Well, maybe chocolate was still okay ;-).) The plain facts are these: (a) you are not your body, but (b) your mind while it uses this body still will be influenced by the energies around it. In an ideal world, mainstream science will cease its obsession with clockwork materialism and will study what reality actually is. Then it will soon become just common sense that every plant and every animal that is destined for food must be lovingly cared for and nourished and made happy, and then sacrificed in a way that does not cause it stress. Just common sense, dear friends! Sooner or later, it will happen....

[Knightofalbion]

When I first understood that plants can (literally) read our minds, and when I realized that the pains and terrors associated with factory-farming followed by a slaughterhouse might be tainting our meat with negative spiritual energies, there was a time when I was nervous about eating anything at all. (Well, maybe chocolate was still okay ;-).) The plain facts are these: (a) you are not your body, but (b) your mind while it uses this body still will be influenced by the energies around it. In an ideal world, mainstream science will cease its obsession with clockwork materialism and will study what reality actually is. Then it will soon become just common sense that every plant and every animal that is destined for food must be lovingly cared for and nourished and made happy, and then sacrificed in a way that does not cause it stress. Just common sense, dear friends! Sooner or later, it will happen....

Peggy passed over a few years ago, but I don't think I can add anymore on this issue than she has said there (Post one)...

[Knightofalbion]

(Meat) When raised in captivity the animals are not in their natural state and tend to be sluggish and lack vitality and can often be filled with distress. These vibrations are imbued into their bodies and energy fields and can have the same effect on those who eat them.

These animals are evolved enough to have a basic consciousness that is close in vibration to some of the lower levels of human consciousness, and when it comes time for slaughter, the animal can become filled with anger and fear. This releases adrenaline into the bloodstream that carries these negative emotions with it.

The chemical messengers of anger and fear, along with their psychic counterparts, remain in the meat and tend to create and/or enhance these emotions in those who consume them. In addition, the spirit of the animal can remain connected to the meat and become entangled with the eater.

Meat lowers one's vibrations, distorts the functioning of the body and places an unnecessary burden on one's system, thus impeding one's ability to channel higher reiki energy

- Reiki News

[Andrew]

(Meat) When raised in captivity the animals are not in their natural state and tend to be sluggish and lack vitality and can often be filled with distress. These vibrations are imbued into their bodies and energy fields and can have the same effect on those who eat them.

These animals are evolved enough to have a basic consciousness that is close in vibration to some of the lower levels of human consciousness, and when it comes time for slaughter, the animal can become filled with anger and fear. This releases adrenaline into the bloodstream that carries these negative emotions with it.

The chemical messengers of anger and fear, along with their psychic counterparts, remain in the meat and tend to create and/or enhance these emotions in those who consume them. In addition, the spirit of the animal can remain connected to the meat and become entangled with the eater.

Meat lowers one's vibrations, distorts the functioning of the body and places an unnecessary burden on one's system, thus impeding one's ability to channel higher reiki energy

- Reiki News

And yet, the meat that we eat is indisputably dead, right? At least, by the time you are eating it, its pain is over. With plants, the opposite is true. Not only are they alive and sentient on a cellular level, as Roberta says above, but they can read our thoughts. So, I ask myself, is it better to eat something that is already dead, or something that is living still?

We do have to eat something. It is impossible to survive in this world without eating something that is not either a plant or an animal (unless you plan to live on nothing but mushrooms :)).

[Carol and Mikey]

Mikey tells me that certain animals are here for the "nutritional needs" of our bodies. That is the purpose. Mikey says that everything here is from spiritual energy. Everything is "alive" so to speak. Eating vegetables is no different than eating animals for our nutrition according to Mikey. We need to survive. We have to eat something. It is no different than animals eating other animals, plants etc. All this "energy" has to maintain itself (the earthly shell) here. Heaven knows we need nutrition for our earthly shells to survive here for our life lessons. This nutrition has to come from the earth. Whether we eat vegetables, fruits, or meat, the "energy" taken comes from the same "Source". It is the individual's choice as to what they eat. But Mikey does say there is no right or wrong way as to "what we eat" to maintain our bodies. We should not judge others as to how they choose to eat to maintain their strength and health according to Mikey.
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"

[WWE LOVER]

Mikey tells me that certain animals are here for the "nutritional needs" of our bodies. That is the purpose. Mikey says that everything here is from spiritual energy. Everything is "alive" so to speak. Eating vegetables is no different than eating animals for our nutrition according to Mikey. We need to survive. We have to eat something. It is no different than animals eating other animals, plants etc. All this "energy" has to maintain itself (the earthly shell) here. Heaven knows we need nutrition for our earthly shells to survive here for our life lessons. This nutrition has to come from the earth. Whether we eat vegetables, fruits, or meat, the "energy" taken comes from the same "Source". It is the individual's choice as to what they eat. But Mikey does say there is no right or wrong way as to "what we eat" to maintain our bodies. We should not judge others as to how they choose to eat to maintain their strength and health according to Mikey.
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"

I'm not into judging others either for their diet choices.

Mikey's explanation makes perfect sense to me.

[Fasaga]

And yet, the meat that we eat is indisputably dead, right? At least, by the time you are eating it, its pain is over. With plants, the opposite is true. Not only are they alive and sentient on a cellular level, as Roberta says above, but they can read our thoughts. So, I ask myself, is it better to eat something that is already dead, or something that is living still?

We do have to eat something. It is impossible to survive in this world without eating something that is not either a plant or an animal (unless you plan to live on nothing but mushrooms :)).

That may be considered caniballism for some :rolleyes:

[Knightofalbion]

Mikey tells me that certain animals are here for the "nutritional needs" of our bodies. That is the purpose. Mikey says that everything here is from spiritual energy. Everything is "alive" so to speak. Eating vegetables is no different than eating animals for our nutrition according to Mikey. We need to survive. We have to eat something. It is no different than animals eating other animals, plants etc. All this "energy" has to maintain itself (the earthly shell) here. Heaven knows we need nutrition for our earthly shells to survive here for our life lessons. This nutrition has to come from the earth. Whether we eat vegetables, fruits, or meat, the "energy" taken comes from the same "Source". It is the individual's choice as to what they eat. But Mikey does say there is no right or wrong way as to "what we eat" to maintain our bodies. We should not judge others as to how they choose to eat to maintain their strength and health according to Mikey.
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"


There is a 'nice' way to slit a throat? There is a 'holy' way to slit a throat?

All life is one Post #52...

[Carol and Mikey]

There is a 'nice' way to slit a throat? There is a 'holy' way to slit a throat?

All life is one Post #52...

Can you explain this further for me please (This is Carol not Mikey)? I do not agree with HOW food processing is done. I also feel we have to get the proper nutrition for our earthly bodies to be strong and healthy, which is a gift from God. I assume milk and cheese is out for you as well? I also get the feeling you are judging people by how they choose to eat. I hope that is a wrong assumption. :)
Carol

[Knightofalbion]

And yet, the meat that we eat is indisputably dead, right? At least, by the time you are eating it, its pain is over. With plants, the opposite is true. Not only are they alive and sentient on a cellular level, as Roberta says above, but they can read our thoughts. So, I ask myself, is it better to eat something that is already dead, or something that is living still?

We do have to eat something. It is impossible to survive in this world without eating something that is not either a plant or an animal (unless you plan to live on nothing but mushrooms :)).

Post one explains it all.
Meat lowers the body's vibrations, whereas pure foods especially fruit, in particular currants, nuts and seeds raise the body's vibrationary rate.
So, if 'you' want to engage in reiki or spiritual healing, increase your psychic capabilities, or become more spiritually receptive, this is the way to go.

Plants have sap in their veins not blood. Plants do possess a degree of awareness, but they don't have souls whereas animals do.

Silver Birch on plants:
(Have flowers and plants consciousness?)
...Not as you understand it, but they have response to vibrations which your world does not yet understand. There are many who can use these vibrations and succeed with flowers and vegetables and plants because they have sometimes by accident found the secret of those vibrations.

[Knightofalbion]

Can you explain this further for me please (This is Carol not Mikey)? I do not agree with HOW food processing is done. I also feel we have to get the proper nutrition for our earthly bodies to be strong and healthy, which is a gift from God. I assume milk and cheese is out for you as well? I also get the feeling you are judging people by how they choose to eat. I hope that is a wrong assumption. :)
Carol

No Carol. I am not judging anyone. I am merely being true to the Truth as I see it, as we all should.

If I am allowed to express an alternative point of view without being censored, then ....

In the First Blessing God commanded man 'Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth and every tree, in the which is a tree-yielding seed, to you it shall be for meat'
The Second Blessing was issued solely as a concession to hardness of heart and even then was issued with a curse, and was only intended to be temporary.

What 'you' have presented there does not correspond to the Law of Love. It also violates the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill'.

It does not tally with what Jesus taught in the True Christian teachings, nor James in the early Christian Church, nor Buddha, nor Silver Birch, nor White Eagle, I could go on and on...
Plato (who was a vegan) informs us that in Atlantis they were universally vegetarian.

You certainly don't need meat to be 'strong and healthy'. I don't have the worldwide figures but there are 100,000 vegans here in the UK. (Check out http://www.greatveganathletes.com All these people are following a plant-based diet, no meat, no dairy)
There are hundreds of millions of vegetarians in the world, 400 million in India alone.

Again, if I am allowed to express a contrary opinion without censorship, untold pain and suffering and bloodshed and killing has entered the world because of that sort of thinking. All life - man or beast - is animated by the Spirit of God. All life is one.

Man was created 'to walk with the angels' and to be 'the sanctuary of love and justice', not to hurt and kill.

It is wrong to enslave. It is wrong to cause pain and suffering. It is wrong to shed innocent blood. It is wrong to kill.

[Carol and Mikey]

I do believe there is reference to Jesus eating fish, ....I think some of his disciples were actually fisherman. Wild life kills and eats other wild life to survive. Many do not eat veggies. I know everything is alive from spiritual energy from the Source.
The statement "Thou Shall Not Kill" then also would refer to any plant, fruit, vegetable, etc. that is "eaten", boiled, etc. Just curious then, what do we eat? No matter what we eat, it is truly "alive" before we consume it. :)
Carol

[Andrew]

I do believe there is reference to Jesus eating fish, ....I think some of his disciples were actually fisherman. Wild life kills and eats other wild life to survive. Many do not eat veggies. I know everything is alive from spiritual energy from the Source.
The statement "Thou Shall Not Kill" then also would refer to any plant, fruit, vegetable, etc. that is "eaten", boiled, etc. Just curious then, what do we eat? No matter what we eat, it is truly "alive" before we consume it. :)
Carol

I agree with you, Carol! Apostles Andrew and Peter were both fisherman, and it is likely that countless disciples were as well. Also, Jesus performs a miracle with fish, multiplying one so that it will feed 5,000 people.

Really, there is nothing left for us to eat in this philosophy. Animals are out of the question, and plants (alive or cooked) are out as well. So, what is left? You cannot really live on just nuts and seeds, as Knight suggestions.

[mogenblue]

You have to eat. Otherwise you die. God created this system.
It's normal to eat meat but if you want to allow more room for higher spiritual energies in your body I agree you should not eat meat.

I became a vegetarian about 3 years ago. I did it not for love of animals or to get more higher energies. It was a matter of health, self interest. My digestion improved by not eating meat anymore. Medical studies also proofed, if I am right, that eating meat gives a greater chance to diseases like cancer and other bad things.

Last October, 2011, I stopped with the last bit of dairy in my diet. When I became vegetarian I stopped using milk and replaced that by soy drink. But I still used cheese on bread. So in October I stopped with cheese as well.
It was necessary because my weight became much too high and I was desperate to do something about it.

Much to my surprise, as soon as the last bit of diary was removed from my diet my hunger feeling prior to the meals became less. It meant my body was then better able to switch over to the fat reserves. It was easier to eat less and thus to loose weight. In a period of about six months I lost about 18 kilogram, about 40 pounds. That was a huge relief. I went two sizes smaller with my pants.
Milk and cheese contain a substance that prohibit my body from accessing the fat reservers. Since that substance no longer enters my body the fat reserves can now be accessed as much as necessary. I don't feel hungry anymore, only a bit drowsy when my body changes to fat. I still eat three meals a day.

So as for diary my mind is very clear: no more milk or cheese ever again for the rest of my life. And no products that contain it, like pizza's and so. By exception at the most.
Milk is for calves. They have to grow from it. We are full grown already. We don't need that.

I want to loose an additional 8 or 10 kilogram but the worst part is over. My BMI index is now in the green. I am very happy with that. Overweight can cause all kinds of nasty diseases.

So that has nothing to do with how much I love animals or so. It is purely in my self interest to have stopped with diary.
I want to keep meat away as well. It does not taste anymore like it did far in the past. I am used now to a vegetable diet and that taste very good as well.

But do I agree that eating no meat allows more space in your body for higher energies. I could seldom remember my dreams but when I stopped using meat my system cleared up and I was able to remember much more of my dreams. I am happy with that because it is a natural source of information to your subconscious.
Also, spirits from the other side are able to contact me in my dreams to pass various kinds of messages. That's handy as well although I am used to receiving messages from them by day.

If you grow higher in the spheres of light vegetarism becomes a natural part of your life. Overthere they do it out of respect and love for the animal life.

As far as I understand plants have conscious and they have no problem to be eaten by other beings. They know that that is what they are here for. They don't feel pain when you eat them.
They have their own evolution to follow and serving as food for other beings is part of the Divine plan.

I am ready to walk with angels for that part.
Show me your light, Brothers. :cool: