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Truth seeker
01-26-2012, 10:59 AM
What do you think about the strange sounds heard around the world? Are they supernatural? A part of a movie campaign? Many people think there are a kind of warning..As always Mikey input is specially welcomed
Here is a video of what Im talkin about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-1IIUcNI0cw
Millie
01-26-2012, 11:30 AM
That is so weird. It sounds like something out of a horror movie! I was going to say it reminds me of the movie Cloverfield, and then someone commented on the video saying it could be a hoax involving the sequal. That would be a good explanation, but that seems unlikely since it seems too widespread over the world to be a hoax. I would love to hear what other people think, because I have no idea but it's really interesting!!
RudeAwakening
01-26-2012, 12:52 PM
WOW!! Thank you for posting that. ET saying hello? Another dimension deciding they've had enough of our pollution and our stupidity and deciding it's time to bring planet earth and the retards on it up to speed? Interesting whatever it is.
Andrew
01-26-2012, 04:59 PM
WOW!! Thank you for posting that. ET saying hello? Another dimension deciding they've had enough of our pollution and our stupidity and deciding it's time to bring planet earth and the retards on it up to speed? Interesting whatever it is.
All I can say is wow, as well! I that's really weird, especially considering how all of these "sightings" happened in the past few weeks all over the world. The sound is pretty similar each time. I can't really offer much insight into this though.
Thank you for posting this!!
Carol and Mikey
01-26-2012, 08:04 PM
WOW! I (I mean we :) ) just listened to this video. Here is what Mikey tells me: It is the earth letting humankind know it is getting ready for a "Renewal". A Spiritual Renewal. (Remember the earth is all energy so noise is possible.) This "Renewal" will gradually happen over time.
I questioned Mikey about the type of sound. It bothered me like ishy movies that are scary. He tells me the noise is like it is because there is need for more love here on earth. Mikey says love brings beautiful sounds!
In "time", the "Spiritual Renewal or Shift" will bring more "loving awareness" to the earth. This Renewal will be a sign of Jesus' second coming.
I have to say this is heavy duty info for me but this is exactly what Mikey spelt with the pendulum. Word for word.
Interesting.............
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
orangeysky
01-26-2012, 08:25 PM
WOW! Carol and Mikey I have been checking this sight every 5 minutes...not literally but very often waiting for Mikey to respond to this. I listened and thought Oh this is silliness but in the same thought I remembered your recent comment in a post in reference to "Spiritual Renewal" WOW! I must now go back and listen again.
LachlanMac
01-27-2012, 04:59 AM
I'm a firm believer every argument should have a counter argument;
http://strangesoundsinthesky.com/2012/01/15/its-a-fake-tastic-fakefest-jan-16/
I'm not saying some of the sounds are not real. Sky lights and sky sounds are something that has happened as far as recorded history, as far as I know, but don't be so easily swayed by a youtube video. Youtube works like this; Hysteria = Views. Views = Money.
When I look at something like this, I ask myself...okay, what is the scientific stimulus causing these noises and what triggered it? Even so, why would such a noise be considered a "warning" and if something all and powerful were trying to
convince us or warn us of something, why wouldn't they be powerful enough to give us a more convenient form of communication?
Another link as well to put things into a bit more perspective;
http://www.ufodigest.com/article/strange-sounds-heard-around-world-hoax-perpertrated-cultist-religion
I don't mean to be rude or put anyone off, but the non-objective approaches that are occurring on these forums is making me a little hesitant to remain a part of the community. I originally thought that we were a place of evidence, science and spirituality working towards a common cause, but I'm beginning to feel a bit uncomfortable.
orangeysky
01-27-2012, 05:19 AM
Dear LachlanMan, I apologize if I have been part of the problem making you feel uncomfortable and hesitant. I am just a normal person who came here to share my experiences, to learn from all of you and to grow in my spirituality. If in fact I have over stepped my boundaries, please know that I will step back and just continue to learn from all of you more experienced members. Your extended knowledge is a crucial piece of this forum and you are a much needed resource to all.
I must admit, I was a bit taken back because I need a place to share my experiences but I see your point and respect your view. Nothing Scientific about me, just your typical person with average intelligence trying to fumble through all of this.
LachlanMac
01-27-2012, 05:34 AM
No, Orange - I really don't want anyone to take blame or offense to what I'm saying.
My point is that I want to trust everyone here and believe what they say as the forums themselves deal with a very controversial issue in many eyes. When I see us latching on to youtube videos that have been proven fake and to be containing absolutely zero reputable publicity or evidence, it makes me lose a bit of trust in the community as a whole.
If one thing we can all agree on is that we despise non-objective views when it comes to a subject like the afterlife - This post demonstrates that by us not being objective as a community. If there is curiosity, explore the roots, examine the evidence and then do with it what you want. I don't want us to become blind.
Again, my intention wasn't to offend, but I feel a good splash of water to the face is needed here.
orangeysky
01-27-2012, 05:54 AM
No way I thought you did intend to blame or offend anyone and your views are very much respected by this girl! :)
vic smyth
01-27-2012, 08:35 AM
.. but I feel a good splash of water to the face is needed here.
Agreed! (Or as the Brits would say, "Here, here!") Thank-you for putting it in such a straightforward, yet gentle, manner.
With Lovingkindness (metta (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/buddharakkhita/wheel365.html#intro)),
vic
RudeAwakening
01-27-2012, 09:33 AM
I'm a firm believer every argument should have a counter argument;
http://strangesoundsinthesky.com/2012/01/15/its-a-fake-tastic-fakefest-jan-16/
I'm not saying some of the sounds are not real. Sky lights and sky sounds are something that has happened as far as recorded history, as far as I know, but don't be so easily swayed by a youtube video. Youtube works like this; Hysteria = Views. Views = Money.
When I look at something like this, I ask myself...okay, what is the scientific stimulus causing these noises and what triggered it? Even so, why would such a noise be considered a "warning" and if something all and powerful were trying to
convince us or warn us of something, why wouldn't they be powerful enough to give us a more convenient form of communication?
Another link as well to put things into a bit more perspective;
http://www.ufodigest.com/article/strange-sounds-heard-around-world-hoax-perpertrated-cultist-religion
I don't mean to be rude or put anyone off, but the non-objective approaches that are occurring on these forums is making me a little hesitant to remain a part of the community. I originally thought that we were a place of evidence, science and spirituality working towards a common cause, but I'm beginning to feel a bit uncomfortable.
Nobody is latching on to anything LachlanMac. There’s no doubt that some of the sounds are bogus, just like some crop circles are bogus – (but most definitely not all of them) - just as for every legitimate medium there are any number of fakes.
If our objectivity isn’t always apparent to you, consider cutting us a little slack. We are not a community of faith based people here. For many of us the existence and evidence of the greater reality is now simply a given based on personal experience that rivals the “scientific proof” behind many accepted scientific theories. Just because this greater reality doesn’t dance to our tune in the form of a “more convenient form of communication” isn’t evidence of anything other than possibly our own limitations or their unwillingness to do so. Whether they can or not I don’t know. Good question for Mikey.
Regarding Mikey, I am certain beyond any doubt that he is communicating through his mother and that he is privy to more information than most in spirit. However, I don’t assume that he is completely objective or all knowing either. And, people with a great deal of spiritual experience have a far greater feel for these natural or supernatural phenomena. We’re simply more in touch, more aware. For instance I feel I can look at a crop circle or a giant perfectly engineered ancient stone structure and know beyond any doubt that it’s not the work of any earthly incarnate beings then or now. Not just because it was ******* impossible, but also because we can sense the greater influence just like the hammerhead shark can sense microscopic prey under the sand giving off an electrical signal we couldn’t pick up with a shovel.
Collectively this community wants nothing more than to separate itself from blind faith. It’s my personal opinion that in the interest of achieving this goal that we should refrain from including Jesus is so much of our argument. Not because the afterlife evidence isn’t consistent with what they know about Jesus, but because of the automatic association with religion and blind faith. For so many people once Jesus is mentioned they’ve stopped listening. We don’t want them to stop listening. I’m sure Jesus will understand.
Anyway, we are about evidence LM, but just like our esteemed materialist scientific community, our familiarity with our “work” leads us to be a bit more blasé about what we already know. As far as the noises, the only thing I know for sure is I'd like to hear it and feel it for myself. :cool:
Truth seeker
01-27-2012, 10:10 AM
Wow! I think I started a little controversy hehe... Today on the tv I watched more new videos with the sounds but this time it was in the north and central parts of Mexico, I wonder if some of them are true, what would be the physical cause? a change on the ionosfere? solar flares affecting it? This phenom reminds me of the tesla radio which can pick lightning, radio frequencies, the light spectrum,RF pulses, electromagnetic fields and convert em to sound
if you want to know more about the tesla radio check this page and its videos http://www.instructables.com/id/Spooky-Tesla-Spirit-Radio/
LachlanMac
01-27-2012, 11:22 AM
I appreciate the responses.
RA, I've listened to the sounds. I've pulled the sounds into protools (I did this as did the writer of one of my linked articles), an professional audio program, and they are replicas of the first created sound. The same audio events happen (bird chirping) with the same wave length and timing.
I respect everyone's opinion, and latching or not, I just felt like such a dismissive issue was jumped on like a hotcake.
And I'm not denying in anyway weird sounds, "skyquakes" blah blah. There are obviously atmospheric phenomenons that we don't understand. Light is energy. Sound is energy. So it's not incredibly baffling that our massive planet carousing through outer space can have some disturbances in our sky, especially when getting barraged by the solar cycle. I'm not trying to disprove any of these theories because I obviously don't know and wont pretend to.
I'm just saying this video is a load of complete rubbish and anyone who dedicates 30 seconds of research will see that. The news would pick up on it. If they broadcast what your Lindsay lohan is wearing in court on our teles, surely the will pick up on this and our eyes will be further opened.
And to you truthseeker, if I'd have to take a guess on what could cause a sound? Because the sounds are apparently so small scale and not over large areas, I would think something to do with radio like you said. Also weather systems? I would leave out anything really to do with the atmosphere or magnetic field because it seems that stuff being affected on such a large scale would surely make at least some people in the continental united states that have heard this. Who knows? Maybe its a product of pole reversal. We've never really had humanity with historical accounts go through one of those, but it takes a long time to do.
RudeAwakening
01-27-2012, 12:40 PM
http://dorsi.hubpages.com/hub/Strange-sounds-in-the-sky-from-around-the-world
Thanks LM. I've just been poking around a little and apparently tons of people all over the world are reporting hearing and feeling these sounds. I find that pretty telling. I don't have a clue what they are, but I don't think the whole current phenomenon is a hoax.
How about plugging this first video on this website into your science gizmo. It's 14:59 minutes. Certainly some of these vids are fakes but when so many are claiming to hear and feel the sound vibration I tend to give that some credit.
Richard
01-27-2012, 02:43 PM
LachlanMac, you are not offending most of us and I, as an attorney respect your objective review of any evidence or conclusion drawn on this forum. Some times I have difficulty with some of the representations made here, but I do find for the most part, the postings are well thought, and made with good intentions and lead me to think about things. So hang in there with us!!!!
Carol and Mikey
01-27-2012, 06:54 PM
[QUOTE=RudeAwakening;5180]http://dorsi.hubpages.com/hub/Strange-sounds-in-the-sky-from-around-the-world
Thanks LM. I've just been poking around a little and apparently tons of people all over the world are reporting hearing and feeling these sounds. I find that pretty telling. I don't have a clue what they are, but I don't think the whole current phenomenon is a hoax.
QUOTE]
Hi all! :)
Mikey tells me you all can question and doubt "noise". That is fine. But do know the earth is solid energy that was created by God. We too are energy! Mother earth is "alive' with energy! Everything about it is energy. What happens here is energy. Let's think for a moment about all the different sounds that are caused by energy on this earth. Have you ever stopped and listened?
Now, lets take an earthquake, or a tornado moving on the earth, or the movement of the ocean, or a river stream, etc. Listen. Hear anything?
Now, let's go back to the concept of God. God is love and love is God. We are all in this Love Unity. (Whether we believe it or not.) The earth was made from this loving energy = God. It is our school for spiritual growth.
Can the earth "groan" for a more loving environment? Food for thought.
Carol and Mikey 'in Spirit"
Andrew
01-28-2012, 09:15 AM
I'm a firm believer every argument should have a counter argument;
http://strangesoundsinthesky.com/2012/01/15/its-a-fake-tastic-fakefest-jan-16/
I'm not saying some of the sounds are not real. Sky lights and sky sounds are something that has happened as far as recorded history, as far as I know, but don't be so easily swayed by a youtube video. Youtube works like this; Hysteria = Views. Views = Money.
When I look at something like this, I ask myself...okay, what is the scientific stimulus causing these noises and what triggered it? Even so, why would such a noise be considered a "warning" and if something all and powerful were trying to
convince us or warn us of something, why wouldn't they be powerful enough to give us a more convenient form of communication?
Another link as well to put things into a bit more perspective;
http://www.ufodigest.com/article/strange-sounds-heard-around-world-hoax-perpertrated-cultist-religion
I don't mean to be rude or put anyone off, but the non-objective approaches that are occurring on these forums is making me a little hesitant to remain a part of the community. I originally thought that we were a place of evidence, science and spirituality working towards a common cause, but I'm beginning to feel a bit uncomfortable.
I feel that, dear Lachlan Mac, society often thinks that, to have an objective approach, you have to start off by doubting. That's not true at all. Really, to be objective you have to have an open mind. Maybe these sounds are real, maybe they're fakes. That's the objective view. I was frankly unimpressed with the evidence for both sides of the argument. Sure, there's only anecdotal evidence that the sounds are valid, but your skeptical articles shows no proof that the sounds were not real. Both sides are essentially speculation.
The fact is, and allow me to be blunt here, that the scientific process used by the majority of today's scientists is simply outdated and close-minded. In order to investigate something objectively, you must make no inferences or assumptions of the phenomenon's validity. Only once you have conclusive evidence, which we don't in this case, can such statements be made.
You're right there's absolutely no evidence that the noises are warnings, and some of them are probably fakes (this is normally the case with all such things), but, that being said, some parts of that video were not fakes. Remember that the video posted above was composed from several different videos on YouTube. Some of them do have the exact same sound, like your article says, are faked, but others in different videos have slightly different sounds and different intervals.
Yes, we are a community where phenomena such as this are viewed and discussed objectively, but our first and for-most goal is comforting people who have lost loved ones and helping to them to realize that the afterlife exists. Spreading that message of love and comfort is really why we were created. That's why it's our policy not to debate things (note: I'm not condemning this conversation), because it tends to frighten off people who need comfort and want to ask questions, but who are somewhat shy about talking about their experiences.
I hope this helps to clarify some things! It always pays to be objective. Think about this: if you study one hundred thousand videos of UFOs, and only one doesn't have a "reasonable explanation", doesn't the phenomenon still exist? It's the same with these videos, there are thousands of them popping up everywhere - too many to condemn as hoaxes before doing a thorough investigation. Perhaps that one video was faked, but it doesn't mean the others were.
Truth seeker
01-28-2012, 09:36 AM
I think Carol and Mikey answer its one of the most importants things said on a while in this forum:
"He tells me the noise is like it is because there is need for more love here on earth. Mikey says love brings beautiful sounds! "
"It is the earth letting humankind know it is getting ready for a Renewal"
"This Renewal will be a sign of Jesus' second coming"
Just WOW ! This is just what this forum is about,spread the love among mankind and let people afterlife exists like Andrew just said...What better way to show people that afterlife exists that having Jesus appear on earth...
Blessings to all..
RudeAwakening
01-28-2012, 10:30 AM
[QUOTE=RudeAwakening;5180]http://dorsi.hubpages.com/hub/Strange-sounds-in-the-sky-from-around-the-world
Thanks LM. I've just been poking around a little and apparently tons of people all over the world are reporting hearing and feeling these sounds. I find that pretty telling. I don't have a clue what they are, but I don't think the whole current phenomenon is a hoax.
QUOTE]
Hi all! :)
Mikey tells me you all can question and doubt "noise". That is fine. But do know the earth is solid energy that was created by God. We too are energy! Mother earth is "alive' with energy! Everything about it is energy. What happens here is energy. Let's think for a moment about all the different sounds that are caused by energy on this earth. Have you ever stopped and listened?
Now, lets take an earthquake, or a tornado moving on the earth, or the movement of the ocean, or a river stream, etc. Listen. Hear anything?
Now, let's go back to the concept of God. God is love and love is God. We are all in this Love Unity. (Whether we believe it or not.) The earth was made from this loving energy = God. It is our school for spiritual growth.
Can the earth "groan" for a more loving environment? Food for thought.
Carol and Mikey 'in Spirit"
Carol, can Mikey tell us his level of certainty about his conclusion? Does he know for certain that's what those noises are or is that what he thinks they are?
Gypsyblue
01-28-2012, 02:34 PM
Gotta say I'm with LachlinMac on this one. I'm very skeptical and am a little turned off that more of the forum's participants aren't more cautious. It does affect how much I respect the words, advice and credibility of members of this forum if I see them endorsing what's probably rubbish.
I believe in God - and that's a real leap of faith for most. But then, I've met the Big Guy briefly and I'm pretty sure I wasn't deluding myself. However, I don't put much faith in channeled info because I know the mind can be easily deluded and be found guilty of wishful thinking. And that's what I believe belief in these sounds is: wishful thinking.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in a weird position. I've been a spiritual practitioner and student of everything and everyone from Edgar Cayce, Ruth Montgomery, Yogananda, Ram Dass and Zen to Scientology (very briefly) since about 1967.
But I'm very careful about what I endorse and I tend to believe in things that I have actually experienced. And even then, I know that my mind can be deluded and jump to conclusions.
Andrew
01-28-2012, 02:56 PM
As Rude Awakening and I have been saying, dear GypsyBlue, we are not actually endorsing these sounds. We're merely saying that there is a chance that there is a real unknown phenomenon going on that is not a hoax. This is entirely plausible. There's no definitive proof, but there's also no definitive proof that the thousands of videos of out there are all hoaxes.
RudeAwakening
01-28-2012, 03:23 PM
Gotta say I'm with LachlinMac on this one. I'm very skeptical and am a little turned off that more of the forum's participants aren't more cautious. It does affect how much I respect the words, advice and credibility of members of this forum if I see them endorsing what's probably rubbish.
I believe in God - and that's a real leap of faith for most. But then, I've met the Big Guy briefly and I'm pretty sure I wasn't deluding myself. However, I don't put much faith in channeled info because I know the mind can be easily deluded and be found guilty of wishful thinking. And that's what I believe belief in these sounds is: wishful thinking.
Sometimes I feel like I'm in a weird position. I've been a spiritual practitioner and student of everything and everyone from Edgar Cayce, Ruth Montgomery, Yogananda, Ram Dass and Zen to Scientology (very briefly) since about 1967.
But I'm very careful about what I endorse and I tend to believe in things that I have actually experienced. And even then, I know that my mind can be deluded and jump to conclusions.
Not really sure where all this is coming from. It’s my impression that most forum members are merely finding it interesting.
Who is endorsing what specifically and what does caution have to do with being curious about something people have reported experiencing in all parts of the globe?
I must have missed the part in the forum member agreement that stated expressing clear, cautious and objective skepticism should be very carefully observed here. Folks join all the time with truly remarkable stories about their experiences. Gypsy I recall yours being one of the most remarkable I’ve ever read. Although I personally didn’t comment, I certainly didn’t think less of my fellow forum members and definitely wasn’t turned off by their lack of skepticism.
What’s the big deal with this? And could someone please be more specific about what exactly is being endorsed here. Millions of people are reporting hearing and feeling something. Yeah, this gullible fool is giving it the benefit of the doubt until we learn otherwise. I personally don't think it's anything spiritual, but I think it is occuring.
Andrew
01-28-2012, 04:10 PM
Awakening, that's exactly what I've been thinking. No one said "These sounds are definitely communications from the extraterrestrials living on earth." or anything outlandish like that. Most posters just said the noises were interesting. I don't understand how that is endorsing the noises.
There is still insufficient evidence to hypothesize as to what these noises are and where they are coming from, but it SEEMS like people really are hearing them in a lot of these videos.
Roberta Grimes
01-28-2012, 04:50 PM
Hi everyone! I am in wonderful, sunny Arizona enjoying five speaking dates with such beautiful people that at this point I am a bit giddy - forgive me for that ;-). I saw the first post in this thread in an airport on Thursday, and now (Saturday) I have a few moments at last to visit with my friends here. Please, everyone, insofar as I can see, all that has been expressed in this thread is open-mindedness! We can be open-minded without affirming that any specific thing is either true or non-true, and it seems to me that we must allow each other to dig into interesting ideas without thinking less of them for it. Here I am, speaking to rooms full of eagerly seeking people who should not have to come out and hear me speak just to learn the basic truths that we discuss on these forums. I mean, this is basic stuff! But the truth has been hidden from everyone who does not (like us) happen upon it and dare to share and discuss it because mainstream science and mainstream Christianity are closed belief-systems. Yes, there might be maybe some weird sounds and vibrations at various places on earth... or maybe not. Closed belief-systems say "certainly not!" Please, my dearly beloved friends, let's not make their mistake. Let's love and trust one another in this - the truth is likely to be revealed before long!
Here are my own thoughts:
1) Might it be a mother-ship? I confess that was my first thought when I heard the clip on Thursday. As you know, my interest is in death and the period right after death, but in doing this basic research you come across a lot of interesting side-information. There is evidence that earth is now in a kind of intensive-care situation as more advanced beings work to jump-start our awareness and elevate the consciousness of the planet before we blow it up. I have read that there are enormous ships in what you and I would call the afterlife levels but close to earth, so they are invisible to us - and there also may be some cloaked motherships in our dimension. My first thought was that if the sounds are genuine, then there might be a cloaking malfunction which allows us to hear a mothership. Maybe.
2) Whatever it is, if the sound is genuine, then it is benign. I have seen it said over and over again in the afterlife materials, dear friends: the universe is benevolent and utterly loving! God is completely in control, and spiritually developed beings are powerful while the more evil a being it is the weaker it is, so if the sound is real then it is certainly being produced by someone or something that completely loves us.
3) In the greater reality, there is no black-and-white. I know it's difficult for us to grasp this, but the evidence is strong that the true/not true dichotomy that exists on earth simply doesn't exist in the afterlife levels. Our understanding is so simple and so black-and-white! I love Mikey's explanation - that the earth is ""groaning" for us to become more loving! His is a better possible explanation than my maybe-a-mothership idea. He is right that the only thing that is real is infinitely loving energy... and that being the case, it could be some phenomenon that no one has heretofore imagined!
Some wag once said that we should be open-minded, "but not so open-minded that our brains fall out." Having known you for many months, dear friends, I think you are treading that line pretty well ;-).
On a personal note, I have been speaking about these truths now for more than a year, and in that time I have seen a real change in the audiences. A year ago, there was mild curiosity and the focus was primarily on death; but now - just a year later! - the audiences are intense and ardent and many of their questions are about what I have learned about spirituality and the planetary shift in consciousness. In just one year, things already are changing! I am coming to believe more and more that 2012 is an important year, after all. But instead of being the end of the world, I think this year is the beginning.
Carol and Mikey
01-28-2012, 08:20 PM
[QUOTE=Carol and Mikey;5185]
Carol, can Mikey tell us his level of certainty about his conclusion? Does he know for certain that's what those noises are or is that what he thinks they are?
RA, I will answer this question as I am told by Mikey. Please don't feel like you have to agree. I am just the messenger. :)
Mikey tells me the noise is caused by changes in the earth's levels. The "energy" is changing. Just know it is not the end of the world that is coming. It is the "Renewal" that is. The Spiritual Renewal or Shift.
The shift is needed on earth because there is such a lack of love.
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
I have a question. Isn't most "afterlife evidence" channeled? How else do we get the info? Except from people like Jesus or Buddha. No one has gone to Heaven on vacation for a week and come back to tell us.
Carol
Andrew
01-28-2012, 09:20 PM
Hi Carol! What Mikey says is fascinating. That's a really weird noise for the earth to be making, since it sounded so mechanical. I'm going to trust his answer on this though since he has been right about everything else so far, and it is far easier gaining information where he is! :)
Anyway, yes, a great part of the afterlife evidence that is specific to the nature of the afterlife it (i.e. what it's like "up there") is given to us through mediums and channelers. There were a lot more of them during the end of nineteenth century and the beginning of the twentieth. There were also a lot of deep trance mediums back then, who could carry over more specific messages from the deceased.
However, most of the evidence that we get about consciousness and Mind and psychic abilities is done through scientific studies here on earth. The dead, when consulted, seem to think it's accurate but the initial information comes from scientists.
And then, there are also near-death experience (people who die/come close to death and are then brought back). The other evidence says that they don't actually die in a complete sense, but they're still on the "other side" long enough to bring back the news of its existence. People can have amazing experiences in NDEs, but they never actually get to the Summerland - rather, they seem to go specifically created areas that will comfort them. These experiencers bring back information as well, but the majority is from channeling and mediums I think.
Wonderer
01-29-2012, 05:07 AM
I too have been following this thread with great interest and with an open mind ;) Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and information.
So, if it's the earth renewal, what would you understand by this? Earth quakes and huge storms, changes to the earth's crust etc, where many living things perish and a new era begins? Or just a renewal on a spiritual level?
Thank you all!
Cheers
Wonderer
Carol and Mikey
01-29-2012, 06:06 AM
I am just heading out the door so this post wil be quick. I too am keeping open minded. All this stuff is new for me. I was never into any of this type of thing before. The one thing I have been told more than once by Mikey about "natural disasters" is that they are large "energy events" that occur that truly make people more loving. And when I think about it, it is true. People come out of no where to help others they don't know! They reach out in any way they can. It brings out "the good" in people. Love pours out!
Mikey has talked about the "Spiritual Shift= Renewal" before on this forum. He tells me the shift is a true concept that is gradually occurring. Increased spiritual awareness is occurring. So who knows! Roberta is noticing changes in her audiences as she speaks. I have no way to prove anything. I always go back to no one has gone to Heaven for a week's vacation and come back with an update. :)
Carol and Mikey "in Spirit"
Wonderer
01-29-2012, 07:20 AM
When I was in Brisbane, in the floods of Jan 2011 (a year ago!!!), I was amazed by how many people helped others in need. Many people went out of their way to help others both physically, that is, by helping clear the debris out of their houses, cleaning etc and also by monetary and psychological means. I remember saying to myself...wow, there is lots of love here, by people sacrificing their time etc for others.
I was not affected by the floods since was 25 km to the east of the floods, but I too received lots of loving 'gifts' by people who I don't know! We got lots of free furniture and a car!
So, from my experience, yeah, natural disaster brings out love from people. As I said, I was so surprised.
Thanks for your insight Carol and Mikey :)
Gypsyblue
01-29-2012, 07:38 AM
Not really sure where all this is coming from. It’s my impression that most forum members are merely finding it interesting.
Who is endorsing what specifically and what does caution have to do with being curious about something people have reported experiencing in all parts of the globe?
Where's it coming from? Just plain grumpiness on my part! Sorry about the lapse.
And apologies to all for the 'tude.
Andrew
01-29-2012, 09:10 AM
When I was in Brisbane, in the floods of Jan 2011 (a year ago!!!), I was amazed by how many people helped others in need. Many people went out of their way to help others both physically, that is, by helping clear the debris out of their houses, cleaning etc and also by monetary and psychological means. I remember saying to myself...wow, there is lots of love here, by people sacrificing their time etc for others.
I was not affected by the floods since was 25 km to the east of the floods, but I too received lots of loving 'gifts' by people who I don't know! We got lots of free furniture and a car!
So, from my experience, yeah, natural disaster brings out love from people. As I said, I was so surprised.
Thanks for your insight Carol and Mikey :)
That's a wonderful story, Wonderer - even if it is about a tragedy. I think that this is one of those examples of how negative things can affect us in positive ways - like by teaching us to be more loving to one another.
I agree with Roberta - 2012 is a beginning, not an end!
RudeAwakening
01-29-2012, 09:35 AM
Where's it coming from? Just plain grumpiness on my part! Sorry about the lapse.
And apologies to all for the 'tude.
That’s awesome Gypsy. For me being grumpy half the time is how I tell when I’m happy.:D
Thanks Carol for the reinforcement from Mikey. The description about the “energy shifting” is really interesting. And, what Roberta is saying about her audiences just thrills me. I am so ready for the world to change. Alas, at my age I have to accept the fact that I may see very little of it, but I suspect at this time, with the reaching power of the internet, it’s more important that we have an ample supply of existing awareness and experience along with the compilation of the accumulated research with which to help facilitate this change.
I do hope to experience a noticeable amount of this change, as the ego ridden, annoyed, incarnate being in me still wants to so badly thumb my nose at those that have mocked. Before we die I really want to look a childhood friend in the eye and dance around, arms above my head waving in the air like a chimpanzee and say “nah nah na nah nah.” :p
vic smyth
01-30-2012, 08:54 AM
I have read the links in this thread and dismissed the sounds as bogus pranks. Then last evening at dusk I heard the loudest hoot owl I ever heard. I thought it was a truck horn from about 1/4 mile away. It repeated about 6 times. Problem is we don't have owls around here, or any other bird or animal that could make that sound. Then I recalled a week ago I heard what sounded like a bird crashing into my window, which happens once in a while. After about the 4th time I went outside with a flashlight and found no evidence of anything.
Odd stuff. But it didn't have that warm fuzzy feeling like an ADC which I get once in a while.
Does "plastic PVC outdoor railing" mean anything to anyone?
With Lovingkindness (metta (http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/buddharakkhita/wheel365.html#intro)),
vic
Andrew
01-31-2012, 03:48 PM
Interesting, and certainly odd.
The railing doesn't mean anything to me.
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